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Discussion: ASA WORLDS AT BURLINGTON

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Aug. 24, 2012
Paco13
364 posts
ASA WORLDS AT BURLINGTON
If any 50M/AAA needs a player let me know. I play SS, 2nd or anywhere on the OF. Hit for high Avg (750-800 OBP) with Occassional power. Above average speed and arm strenghth, don't mind running, good attitude. If possible need for the hotel expenses to be paid for; don't mind sharing a room with a non-smoker. Reside in Chesapeake VA.

PR NINJA OUT

JESUS TE AMA!!!
Aug. 24, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Paco, I understand you wanting to play, but in an alleged 'world' tourney wouldn't the rosters already be set? Or can you bring a pickup team?
Aug. 24, 2012
Paco13
364 posts
ASA does not have pre-qualifiers as far as I know. Have you heard of any ASA senior tournament. I have not.
Aug. 24, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Can't say that I have. I am just thinking they should at least expect some pre-registered sanctioned roster of some type, otherwise it just sounds like a pickup tourney.

How far of a drive is it for you to Burlington? Fairly close?
Aug. 24, 2012
Paco13
364 posts
About 3.5 hrs. Easy drive hardly any traffic going south.
Aug. 24, 2012
kbl
Men's 60
527 posts
Paco13....in penna., we have a state tournament...we had 5 teams this year...it is for AAA/AA...after competing, you have to turn in your roster to the ASA director to get approved. since getting senior bats approved for senior ASA tournaments, i thought there would be more teams attending. we travel 8 hours. thanks, ken
Aug. 24, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
"more teams"??? Remember, it was a senior tournament.....:)
Aug. 24, 2012
rjd
4 posts
i beleive you can add three players. played there a few years ago was not on the original roster but got added day tourny started. i think that was 08 so may have changed since then. with not so many teams as there was then i would think they would not change.
Aug. 30, 2012
Paco13
364 posts
If U want me U better come get me now. U know who U are. LOL. Good luck to everybody down there. ASA has probably one of the better winner package deals. Not like some other Assoc that they give U the same patch over and over again. Have fun without me...I will remember U. Don't call me next week. Just having fun.

PR Ninja out

JESUS TE AMA
Aug. 30, 2012
neck10
490 posts
ASA has always had at least two pick up players in all classes dont see why it would be any different in senior!!!!!!!
Aug. 30, 2012
neck10
490 posts
they just couldnt have played in a higher class that year lower or the same was always fine
Sept. 2, 2012
turn2
484 posts
Just got back from Burlington and it was a good tourney. We (Turn Two) played Triangle Masters and DHC/ Kinnco. It was tuff in the practice games going 0-2. We got lucky and beat DHC 40-33 in a knock down drag out match. These guys are a very strong team. Then we got by Triangle. DHC then beat Triangle to get back to us. We beat DHC in the finals to win the 55 major championship. DHC only had 11 guys and they had one to go down but they still had plenty of fight in them.
It was tuff because they finished it in 1 day. It was hot and ruff on all teams. It was nice seeing Butch Drake, Big Arm John, Reedus, Crump22 and all others. Both of these teams are strong and very scrappy. I hope we don't have to play these young guys anymore.
Hope everyone gets back safe.
Donnie
Sept. 2, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
678 posts
Donnie, I guess that you would rather play in a walk through tourney that play a better brand of ball. I think that you should look at this as a great warm up for when you play the west coast 60 major plus teams. You probably have the best 60 team in the country but all you do is whine about playing younger guys. I can see your complaint if you where LOSING but you are not. You do not speak for your team who will compete with anybody so quit lobbing and keep score. Thanks Harry # 20 NV FORCE
Sept. 2, 2012
turn2
484 posts
I have no problem playing the younger guys and long as it is the same for all of the twams unlike Manassas. Just treat us like all the other age groups. If you move one team move everyone.
At least we did go to Burlington and play unlike some other teams that would not.
Harry, How about your team drop down and play the 55 major or 55 aaa teams in 2 or 3 tournaments and see how you like it. Then let me know how it feels to play the younger teams.
You don't penalize teams for winning. Everyone else need to try and get better and compete.
I walked around city park several times just looking at teams to see if there may be someone that was old enough that I might could find for next year. I am always looking to try and get better because if you do not pick up players each year you will get left behind by the other teams. All of the top teams are always recruiting and trying to improve every year. This is why the top divisions are so strong.
Donnie
Sept. 2, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
turn, the teams might be very strong, but the divisions hurt for a lack of teams.
Sept. 3, 2012
turn2
484 posts
There was only 1 division that had 9 teams and gues what? it was a 50 aa I think. There were only 6 major team in the whole tourney and they were 3 50's , 2 55's and 1 60. Local teans did not support this so they my move to a new location next year.
Donnie
Sept. 3, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
turn, why should local teams support it? Is it a local tournament or a "worlds"? How would that many local teams all qualify for it?
Sept. 3, 2012
tattooball
605 posts
Donnie, Your team has taken the best players from a very big area of the country and you wonder why you don't have good competition to play?
Sept. 3, 2012
Jawood
Men's 50
789 posts
Well funded teams must be restricted from where they can recruit from (borders) or very few teams will want to enter a tournament, which looks like is the case here.
Sept. 3, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
678 posts
Donnie, I do not want to get into a war of words with you about this. This is the first ASA Burlington tourney that we have missed in 11 or 12 years. The reason is why should we play for second place and that is what it amounts to. You keep on recruiting and we will stick with mostly our league players and see how the chips fall.

Jaywood I am not sure about the funded part for Turn Two. too many conflicting stories but they do have a great team. The part about not wanting to enter is very true. Thanks Harry # 20 NVFORCE
Sept. 3, 2012
Jawood
Men's 50
789 posts
birdie, I should have added that I don't know if Turn Two is a well funded team or not. In general however, those are the type of teams that use their big budgets to bring in players from all over the place. That's why they need to limit this, kind of a "salary cap".
Sept. 3, 2012
turn2
484 posts
tatooball
You are right. I use the bordering states just like every other team does. All teams can use bordering states if they choose. Those are the rules and most teams use them.
Is it my fault I want to put together a good team and try to win when we go to a tournament? I thought this is why you compete.
You guys must never go to Vegas or Dalton because most teams are stacked there. They use the same rules as we do and we go and try to win just like all the other tourneys. If we get beat by a better team we take it and try to improve for the next time.
See you in Dalton
Donnie
Sept. 3, 2012
crump22
Men's 50
42 posts
Donnie,your team is tough, they fits into a great system you have, i never play a team with so many player pushing the ball through the hole for hits, hitting foul ball to make the outfield chase them, so when they bat , they has lost energy, chasing foul ball.that 6 hr and a out hurt,but we knew the rule before we played. but i did enjoy playing your team.During the game a old friend stop by,Clyde Guy, one of the all time great softball player from Howards Furniture,who i had not seem in more than 15 years,in which Boom-Boom, Reedus and I tried to talk him into playing again, Donnie , don,t care if he play for Turn-Two ,lol,
Sept. 3, 2012
turn2
484 posts
Crump22
Thanks for the kind words. You guys have a solid team also. I would loved to have Clyde if he wanted to get back in the game.
Several of our guys were talking to Clyde and I heard the stories about old times.
See you in Vegas,
Donnie
Turn Two
Sept. 4, 2012
tattooball
605 posts
Donnie I understand the rules, you shouldn't complain when you are playing local toury's and there is no competition for your team to play.

You were upset at R.B for making you play down in age to make it more competitive. How do you think the other teams feel pitching BP to your team? They spent just as much and many times they spent more to be there.

Directors would rather loose 1 team then 3 or 4. You guys know that if the Fl, or teams from the west are not in the tourny it is a cake walk for your team.

You actually went on this site and called out other teams for not wanting to play your team,and you didn't have the facts.

By the way what was the score of your games against the 60's in Manassas?

Softball is a recreational sport and is supposed to be fun for all.
Sept. 4, 2012
turn2
484 posts
tattooball
What facts? I was just repeating what R.B. said. It is never a cake walk for anybody. We have to go out and hit to win just like everybody. Some of scores are always inflated because of all of the errors. If we make a lot of errors we usually lose the game.
I was only upset because he only singled us out of 93 teams. I know there were teams there way better than us and none of them got moved to play younger teams.
At least now we will not have to worry about being moved around because we will be playing major plus teams in Dalton in the 65's and Vegas for 60 and 65's to finish out the year. It should be fun win or lose.
Donnie
Sept. 5, 2012
Paco13
364 posts
Since U guys ambushed my post. I have something for you all. This argument sounds very familiar. The rich keep getting richer and the middle class well heck with them. Turn two (rich) has the assets to get bigger and better and pays the same as any other team (taxes); the other teams (middle class) want to compete but can't; however they are forced to pay the same or even more (taxes) because in reality they have no chance of winning. So Turn two even though they pay the same they have a very good chance to win the other teams have no chance...so their return on their investment is minimum...well they got a chance to play and loose to the mighty turn two. LOL. Interesting. Good luck to all.

JESUS TE AMA AND SO DO I.

PR NINJA OUT.
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