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Aug. 28, 2012
neck10
505 posts
northern championship
just thought the northern championship this past weekend had as good of umpires as Ive seen hats off to you guys I didnt agree with you all the time but you were fair,thats all we as teams & players can ask. with the umps being usssa umps also you didnt have to worry about slipping anything in flat because they had seen that pitch before,just thought the whole tourney was run real well if you had a question you needed answered it was answered cant ask for any better hats off to you guys & girls from ssusa & a special thanks to mike dembicki
Aug. 28, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
222 posts
This is a good topic as there is a similar topic that says "Lake Alliance" on it--------this gets more to the point.

I agree with neck10, umpiring was very good for the most part.

I am going to duplicate a little of what I said on the other thread though. The Potterville Complex where 50AAA was held was LOW QUALITY as far as I've seen in multiple senior softball tournaments.

All that was missing was Tumbleweeds and Cactus!!!
Infields were TERRIBLE. The cut of grass on the lip of the infield to the outfield caused multiple injuries from what I witnessed. Enough to remove players from the game permanently. Parking Lot was worse than the infield, and the road to the parking lot was even worse than that.

After playing at East Lansing last year, (which is where I "assumed" we would be this year) this complex was an ultimate LOW POINT to say the least.

On the Plus Side, Corky and the SSUSA Truck was a nice touch. Concessions were decent, they had to be, because the water provided smelled pretty bad.

Another downer was a team dropping out of AAA the night before the tournament??? What the.....???? Let's just play some ball.

Hats off to the teams that did participate.

As Miken44 said on the other thread, the game between Capp Steel and Universal Mechanical (won by Universal 32-31 in 9 innings Sunday Morning) was an epic battle that had nothing to do with the tournament championship, but was fun softball just the same, & went down to the last pitch.

Sorry it set the whole tournament behind by over an hour and a half!

Congrats to Twin City Movers from Illinois as AAA Champions!!

Another Congrats to the Boys from Northern Ohio Printing for winning in MAJOR!! Great Job for Cleveland & Northeast Ohio, guys!!!!!!!
Aug. 29, 2012
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Men's 55
137 posts
I hope more people chime in here,bout the fields conditions
Come on SSUSA we have played there many years,with these same problems,GO ELSEWHERE,or spilt the tourneys over 2 weekends and only use the fields at Abbott Rd.
Aug. 29, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Or another option is to speak with your checkbook and not go to the tournament until they move it. It isn't like this is a true national tourney that you might not want to miss.

If teams keep coming, what is their incentive to make a move?
Aug. 29, 2012
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
Repeat19, These fields are right up your alley like the old days...crushed cinder block infields,super thick grass in outfields, 315foot fence down the lines and 322 in center. Sewer water in jugs at each field and no shade.
Aug. 30, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Tool, if guys could figure this stuff out the first 5 times I said it I wouldn't have to repeat.....:)

Not sure about your old days, but my fields were a bit better than that sounds.
Aug. 30, 2012
neck10
505 posts
there are other fields in lansing that would work.a little water would go a long way on infield & outfield.cant all be nice fields like traverse city.Liberty is still the best complex in michigan..............
Aug. 30, 2012
neck10
505 posts
clear this up liberty's in detroit not traverse city!!!!!!!!!!
Aug. 30, 2012
miken44
78 posts
to all the teams that played in pottersville i dont think any of us would of cared were liberty would of been we would of all been happy to of played at a complex that would of been taken care of the out field was bad and the lip around the infield was dangerous guys were getting hurt balls would hit the lip and guys were taking them off the chest the water they gave you to drink was out of the outhouse for the money we pay just horrible either move the tourny or boycott it or find a spa tourny around the same time have not seen that much problem with a spa
Sept. 2, 2012
pug
144 posts
Thanks 17 black, Twin city here. It was fun winning and ya the fields could use some work. but most fields do need alot of work. Hats off to warehouse that we beat. They were tuff. Were happy to compete. Randy
Sept. 7, 2012
neck10
505 posts
pottersville would shape up a bunch with some water on it daily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(infield & outfield)
Sept. 8, 2012
miken44
78 posts
potterville could be a nice place cut the lip from behind the infield mow the grass before such a big tournament water the infield down some to hold down the dust do something with the parking lot so you dont feel like your in the sahara and what ever you do dont drink the water they put in the coolers
Sept. 8, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
222 posts
LOL

"MAYBE" the issue was they were watering the fields with whatever they gave us in the coolers???

Nothing could have lived through that??
Sept. 8, 2012
titanhd
Men's 50
337 posts
Potterville simply is not the place to hold this Tourney.
I mentioned to one of the Directors that Battle Creek has
Bailey Park.A multi-use park with three full-sized baseball stadiums, including the 6,000 seat C.O. Brown Stadium; two quadra-plex softball diamonds. 8 diamonds could very well handle this tourney and have all of the teams at the same location.That's if we they want to keep this Tourney in Michigan. If Potterville is in the equation I say move it.
Sept. 9, 2012
jsheeran
Men's 50
41 posts
The Bobby Chapp Memorial Senior Qualifier in May is played at Potterville too. For the entry fee cost and a weekend commitment, THE PLAYERS AND SPONSORS WHO FUND THIS ASSOCIATION AND KEEP IT IN BUSINESS DESERVE MUCH BETTER. Bailey Park in Battle Creek is a nice facility.
Sept. 9, 2012
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Men's 55
137 posts
I aggree with titanhd,this not the place to hold ANY tourney.It is not that easy to move these,the city must bid and pay SSUSA to hold these.Not many cities have those funds.SO my answer is if Lanshing is the only place split the tourney over 2 weekends and ONLY use Abbott rd park,our just stop going to this one.
Sept. 9, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
If it is back at Potterville next year, how many of you guys will still go back?
Sept. 9, 2012
killer22
Men's 55
3 posts
We can and should complain about the field conditions, not to mention the parking lot and drive in from the road, but SSUSA probably has a multi-year contract with the city of Lansing and can't get out of it without paying whatever penalty was agreed to. Since we don't find out the field assignments until a week before playing, the entry fee has already been paid. It wouldn't bother me for my team to remove this one from our schedule.
Sept. 10, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
That could very well be the case, but if it is then shame on SSUSA for signing a contract that allows the facility to provide sub-standard conditions. Contracts are meant to be two-way streets, with both sides having agreed upon obligations.
Sept. 10, 2012
skip_6
Men's 60
15 posts
I agree, the fields at Potterville were the pits. I made a mistake and drank some of the water provided, one glass, it was sewer water. Only one shelter to get into the shade, another under construction. The worst complex that we played.
Sept. 10, 2012
stick8
1318 posts
I've played a ton of NSA tournaments at Potterville over the last 20 years or so. For years it was one of the main places NSA qualifiers were played. It was a decent complex back then but sadly, as many of you have commented, the place has gone downhill. It definitely needs a complete makeover.
Sept. 10, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
222 posts
G19, in response to your question about going back to Potterville next year.

The issue is, they also use a very good complex at East Lansing for the same tournament, several miles away. That complex is sweet, and where my team wound up going our first year in 2011.

I didn't even know about Potterville until a couple weeks before the tourney started this year, and just assumed we were going back to East Lansing again?

From what I am told, they try and rotate some teams and divisions each year from complex to complex, but I really have no idea if they do indeed do that????

If I knew we were going back to East Lansing for sure next year, I'd say count us in, AND if for sure at Potterville I would say no way.

Just my opinion.
Sept. 10, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
17, I can see your dilemma. But, if that is the case, I would say skip if the conditions are as bad as I have been reading and no one is going to give you any assurances.

I know I try never to spend my money until I know exactly what I am purchasing, and if they won't commit to me I sure don't commit to them.
Sept. 10, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
17, I can see your dilemma. But, if that is the case, I would say skip if the conditions are as bad as I have been reading and no one is going to give you any assurances.

I know I try never to spend my money until I know exactly what I am purchasing, and if they won't commit to me I sure don't commit to them.
Sept. 10, 2012
kid 32
20 posts
Our team will not go back to Lansing unless we get it in writing we will be playing at the main complex and not in Potterville! Too much money and travel to play in a dump!
Sept. 25, 2012
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Men's 55
137 posts
Why has there been NO response from a SSUSA "official",about all of these concerns,we the players have about Potterville.
Sept. 25, 2012
SSUSA Staff
1305 posts
The principal reason is one of current priorities. With 446 teams going off at the World Masters over the next two weeks, the field conditions at Potterville 10 months from now are not at the priority level that compels immediate comment. If you are going to be in Las Vegas, please look up Fran or Terry and maybe they can provide some insights on your concerns.
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