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Discussion: Combat Twilight

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Sept. 18, 2012
Corky
Men's 55
444 posts
Combat Twilight
Anyone know anything about this bat??
Sept. 18, 2012
miken44
74 posts
know some guys who are hitting it now they are saying ball is jumping and so far durability does not seem to be a factor
Sept. 18, 2012
0
48 posts

Other than the name and paint job, what makes it different from the Ambush or Centenarian?

Sept. 18, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4249 posts
Ans or in part: who's selling them (Anaconda) and 4 bucks more.
Sept. 18, 2012
ju25
Men's 55
137 posts
2 piece bat, not as much hande flex as most Demarinis.
Sept. 18, 2012
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
We swing the new Demarini. Handle is stiff, swings like the 2 piece Worth Mutants.
Sept. 18, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
975 posts
Come on Brian, it's a "Stiff pickle" AKA Demarini
Sept. 19, 2012
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
You big guys are going to like the 30oz endload.
Sept. 19, 2012
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
Hey Guys, I have been on the road and just got back to beautiful Brunswick, Ohio. Ha!Ha! The one thing that makes it different from the Ambush and the Centenarian is the 2 piece. It definitely has a stiff handle and swings like a 1 piece bat. The flex comes into play when you hit the bat at the end of the barrel. Hey but this is just my opinion. Hope this helps a little.

Gorilla Boy
Sept. 19, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
975 posts
So Mike, what shell are they using for the Twilight is it the same as the Amush/Centenarian?
Sept. 19, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
414 posts
Is this Combat's first 2-piece? The first generation of the DeMarini The One Senior is reputed to have durability problems. Just a heads
up with no info.
Sept. 19, 2012
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
Let me see if I can answer your questions. The frame that is used to make the latest group of Combat Senor Softball bats use the same material in the barrels. Combat feels it is the best combination of carbon to date. The frames are different according to their lengths. The Centenarian, The Ambush and the Twilight.

In the Twilight we added a stiff handle to go along with a soft shell. Three things have been done after extensive testing.

1. The handle used was made more stiffer so the bat did not swing like a garden hose.

2. By adjusting the formation (different angles) of the fibers on the outer wall we have what we believe to be the best pattern for a high performance softball bat. Best trampoline effect..

3. The inner wall that is used in the Twilight is of Multi-Wall technology (3 Walls).

.....With the stiffer handle that is used it allows for the flex to begin at the end of the bat. Where you might hit the ball on the end of the bat and because of the springboard effect you can still good distances out of the bat.

.....When the ball is hit in the middle of the sweet spot it still plays like a 1 piece bat.

I hope this helps. if you have any question about the Twilight please give me a call at 330-419-0205 and I will try and help you out.


Thank You
Gorilla Boy
(Mighty Mike Macenko)

Sept. 19, 2012
Tri18
566 posts
Mighty Mike!
Welcome home and hello from sunny Florida. Hope your trip was good.
Best to you,
Alan
Team 1 Sports
Sept. 19, 2012
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
It is good to be back home. Visited with Craig Elliott in Wadley Alabama. It doesn't get any better than what he has got. Looking forward to going to Vegas for the SSUSA. Once again thank you..

Gorilla Boy
Sept. 19, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
975 posts
Thanks for the explanation..
Sept. 19, 2012
Tri18
566 posts
Mike,
How is the cranker doing? Is his son still playing. Played against him in the ASA Super Nationals a few years back. Craig was there and we laughed a bit and traded old war stories.
Alan tri18
Sept. 19, 2012
Bighurt3535
25 posts
Thanks mike can't wait to swing the twilight this weekend
Sept. 20, 2012
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
My pleasure on the explanation.. Alan as far as the Cranker goes, it is still hard to believe but he lost his son John in 2002 I think. I don't want to go into details but he passed away in 2002. The Cranker is doing just fine. He works his tail off with a trucking company he owns. Lives in his hometown of Wadley and has a beautiful wife along with a beautiful home. Yes John was a very gifted athlete. It was a tough time needless to say. You have yourself a great day...

Gorilla Boy
Sept. 20, 2012
Tri18
566 posts
Wow! Mike I can't believe the years went by like that. He was there watching him play. I'll call you and we will catch up. We are blessed with every day on this earth guys...be thankful we are here and still play a great game.
Thanks Mike,
Alan
Sept. 20, 2012
Goater
50 posts
so what's to do if one is ready to buy another Combat? Buy a Twilight, an Ambush or a 2nd MM blue?
Sept. 21, 2012
?
75 posts

A Stiffer Handle?

I was under the impression that handle flex is desirable?

Isn't flex the reason for standing on the handle?

Can anybody explain?

Thank you!






Sept. 21, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Guys feel the need to stand on the handles of the special bats with sweet spots the size of Montana?
Sept. 21, 2012
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
The handle and taper are tuned for the amount of flex in the barrel. The flex allows the barrel to store energy for a split second, then the barrel flex and handle flex work together to release the stored energy at the same time. If you hit the ball at the end of the barrel you really feel it all working together. But if you are a smaller hitter and you barrel it up, it feels awesome and sounds great. I think the lighter hitters are going to love this bat.

I don't stand on bats to see if the flex is there. I can tell when swinging. I hope this helps. You don't want the bat to flex until you have made contact. With a really flexable handle the bat will start flexing before you make contact. I am sure some players might like it like that. Everybody's swing is different? As you have said before no two stances and swings are the same.

Gorilla Boy
Mighty Mike Macenko
Sept. 21, 2012
boston
296 posts
Just got me a Worth Resmondo LE for senior ball. It's a USSSA bat that will last. I can also use it in the winter w/o fear of it breaking. Guys w/ the technology in bats today.; there is no need to waste money on a senior bat w/ no warranty. I also have the Worth Duo 2 and trying to get the new Easton Stealth 100. These bats hit the crap out of the ball. Also try the Rush 120 and OG Freak. I just don't get the hype over senior bats that hit a ball 400 ft when all you need is 305 to maybe 325 for a HR depending on the field. That's like some of the young guys I play against that are 220+ lbs and use shaved bats. Most good hitters should be able to hit with anything.
Sept. 21, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
boston, you just keep on keeping on.

Unfortunately, there seem to be too many insecure guys who must tie their self-esteem to the extra, unnecessary distance the special bats give them. Kind of sad for guys our ages.
Sept. 22, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
414 posts
Mike, when you refer to end of barrel are you saying sweet spot or are you saying a miss hit near the end of the bat will do better than other
stiffer senior bats?? What does "barrel it up" mean? And by smaller hitter do you mean slower batspeed or doing you mean a shorter hitter who has less arc (shorter arms) in his swing? As a shorter player I am trying to understand what you
are saying. Please excuse my ignorance. I note other Combats (I have a MM) seem to take longer to break in and it seemed to me less powerful swingers may never have broken it in. How is this
new model respecting break in? If this bat is designed for the weaker rec player, then hopefully it breaks in easily. Thank for all your help.
Sept. 25, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
414 posts
Mike, please see prior questions. Thanks.
Sept. 27, 2012
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
HJ, sorry for the delay in answering your question.

End of barrel - not the sweet spot but at the end of the bat where when you usually hit the end of the bat the ball doesn't go to far. The way the handle and barrel work together at that precise moment gives you a little bit more distance because of the flex.

Barrell it up - when you hit it on the sweet spot. the barrels are 11.5 inches long, so you have quite a big sweet spot.

Smaller hitter - the way the bat is designed the players with a slower bat speed might benefit more from this bat. It could be a big guy with a slower bat speed. So no I don't mean short players.

Bottom line is hitting should be kept quite simple. See the ball and hit the ball. The last thing you want to do at the plate is to think too much. It will get you in trouble. I now first hand because that is what would happen to me more times than I would like to remember. If you want you can give me a call to discuss anythng further.

Gorilla Boy
Mike Macenko
330-419-0205.

Sept. 28, 2012
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
HJ, Will be hitting next week weather permitting, come give the twilight a try if schedules can match.
Sept. 28, 2012
crusher
Men's 70
380 posts
End Of Barrel -

I think that is the nature of a Combat. I have hit my Centenarian near the end of the bat thinking it will only go 225 or so and it short hops the fence.
The Combat Company seems to have built a very unique bat.
Guess the Ambush uses the Centenarian barrel also based on what I read on here.

C
Sept. 28, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
414 posts
Thanks 5 Tools, but on the road till about 10/20.
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