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Discussion: What we got for winning National Championship

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Oct. 10, 2012
skip_6
Men's 60
15 posts
What we got for winning National Championship
SSUSA stated on Sept. 16, on a thread, that the teams that won National Championships would receive, along with a team trophy and chance to buy a ring, a miken bat bag. Well we won but didnot receive the batbag, we got a shirt instead. Just wondering where the bat bag went.
Oct. 10, 2012
skip_6
Men's 60
15 posts
Did any other National Champs get a bag?
Oct. 10, 2012
SSUSA Staff
1124 posts
The bat bags allocated for SSUSA awards use this year were inadvertently (by Miken) sent to the Rock 'n Reno Tournament and, accordingly, were not available for the World Masters event. We apologize for this error on their part and should have notified the teams previously, but did not. That is our sole error.
Oct. 10, 2012
skip_6
Men's 60
15 posts
So no bat bags, just shirts?
Oct. 10, 2012
SSUSA Staff
1124 posts
Yes
Oct. 10, 2012
rick#8
14 posts
So, let me try to get this straight, When was the Reno tourney, Sometime around June, then SSUSA posts on September 16, that the winner gets bags, buy they were given away 3 months earlier, so the winners at worlds, expecting bags were given a shirt which I am sure SSUSA has a surplus of and no explanation, and, you (SSUSA)see nothing wrong with this? And as far as a trophy, a 10.00 plaque? for the amount of money some of these sponsors put out, you should be ashamed. Just my 2 cents.
Oct. 10, 2012
rick#8
14 posts
Skip 6, I tried using the shirt as a bag, but, my bats just slid out the sleeves.
Oct. 10, 2012
skip_6
Men's 60
15 posts
LOL, The funny thing is the shirts were all XXXL and XXL. We only have one guy that wears a XXL. Were an AA team and a lot of our guys are mediums. Some of them would have slid out of the sleeves. They said thats all they had until our manager insisted they get the correct sizes. They had to go to another field to get them, but they did do that for us. I think they did a great job with that many teams. The fields and umpires were great. I was just wondering about the bags they promised to all the national champs.
Oct. 10, 2012
Olden Slow
Men's 65
173 posts
skip..Did you play for the Silverados ?..You guys beat us 2 times and were just a great group of guys..Too bad about the bags..When you expect to get something for winning..It's not right that you received something inferior...Congrats on winning..
Tom
BaseHawgs #6 @ 2b..
Oct. 11, 2012
stig1
Men's 60
32 posts
If they were the same bags that we received for winning the SSUSA Northern they were a joke. Flimsy nylon back pack bags with nothing on them about about being the northern champions. The same thing for winning the USA championship game in Las Vegas. We received the SSUSA polo shirt also with nothing on it about winning the USA championship. At least if you are going to call something a national tournament and charge a premium entry fee you should at least have the awards reflect what you won rather than a generic shirt or bag. But I do have a couple of nice ring option order forms that reflect what was won.
Oct. 11, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Mac, what are you whining about? I am sure the shirt fit YOU! Tell the other guys to hit the gym. LOL
Oct. 11, 2012
skip_6
Men's 60
15 posts
Olden Slow.. Tom, Yes, I played 3rd base. You guys were a great team too. Thanks Gary I guess I was whining. I needed a new bat bag, mine is worn out. LOL
Oct. 11, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
John, what are you saying, you don't need another tee shirt?
Oct. 11, 2012
tvp
8 posts
SSUSA Should be ashamed to hand out Generic Shirts without any Mention of NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP on them. Even the Directors and other players were wearing this SSUSA Shirt. Pretty Poor Reward for all the Money we pay to play in these Tournaments and win something like this But What do they think A RING OPTION is. Another chance to spend more money and they don't even pay part of it. All they had at our park was X LARGE and DOUBLE X when we finished. Great Turnout over 400 teams and the Awards are still bad and most are donated. SSUSA raves about how many teams go to their Tournaments and continues to give Very Little back to the Players that Pay to go. Would like to see them pay part of Ring cost instead of an Option and give appropriate Shirts(proper sizes and identification) to the Winners .
Oct. 11, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
981 posts
Skip you forgot to mention the Cool All tourney patches! ;)
Oct. 11, 2012
boston
297 posts
What about SSUSA allowing the top 3 teams into next years Worlds no entrance fee. That would be something better than what you got. The sad part is most of these teams will go right back to Vegas next year and the same stuff will happen and the beat goes on.
Oct. 11, 2012
stig1
Men's 60
32 posts
That has always been SSUSA policy to have very little awards but have been getting worse. They take little pride when giving awards. They depend on Miken to supply cheap Chinese products. They know only the top couple of teams experience the awards while the rest of the teams go home. Giving generic arwards for so called national championships is not only pure greed but kinda rubbing your nose in it. It's obivious the people deciding who gets the awards put no thought into what they were doing. It appears it was all about what we could get for free no matter how cheap. But they were quick to give out the ring option forms. I wonder if they make a kickback on prchased rings. I don't play the game for awards. I play because I love the competition, hanging out with the guys, and the thrill of victory but I do see what is going on and I am not fooled by the greed.
Oct. 12, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Looks like some people are starting to realize what is going on.
Oct. 13, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
981 posts
stig1 hits the nail on the head
Oct. 14, 2012
FasTs
4 posts
I would like to see ssusa kick some money back to the teams from the TOC qualifiers. Maybe keep an account over the course of the year and give it to the team at the TOC to help with expenses. If they don't go then they don't collect. Also stop giving TOC berths to teams that already have them. Go to the second place team. Get more participation. More teams involved in the TOC's
Oct. 14, 2012
Doorman
35 posts
Skip_6, If they were giving away bat bags I am sure it was the miniature backpack bag we got for winning a TOC in CA. My team donated ours to a local tee-ball team because nobody on my team had any use for such a small bag. The tee-ball team loved them.

The practice of giving winning teams ridiculously cheap prizes irritates me. This issue has been discussed on this board a few times, so whenever a new thread is started I like to post my ideas.

Here are my suggestions for tournament prizes. I have posted these before, but I still like the ideas and maybe SS will get the clue.
Every tournament has a logo. How about the champions get a nice hat (not a super cheap throwaway hat) with an embroidered logo for the tournament and the year. The hat cannot be bought, it must be won.
A good quality shirt with the an embroidered tournament logo and the year on it. The shirt cannot be bought, it must be won.
$10-20 coupon to purchase what we want from the softball truck. Let us combine our coupons to buy a team bat or give the coupons to the MVP of our team and let him buy whatever he wants off the truck.
For those that like the bling...keep the ring option available.

If enough people complain maybe they will make some changes.
Oct. 15, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
The other side of the coin is if enough teams continue to participate nothing will change.
Oct. 15, 2012
southernson
254 posts
stig1,
You are spot on.....
Oct. 15, 2012
THECAT
59 posts
The interesting issue is that the T-shirts cost $15.00 to buy at the parks and the trophy $$. Now for $600 plus dollars the privlage to play out of state teams seems to be the only incentive.
The officiating was weak, some parks were deplorable, and the costs were high.
Looks like Huntsman may get some more teams next year.
I'm sure thats why the change with Arizona and Nevada may have come about. Since Arizona was getting less teams because of Huntsman. But now I think the advantage is now back to the Huntsman with the issues that Vegas has created.
No bags donated and so no money was allocated out of the $600 plus. Interesting hey!
Heard that the officiating was going further and a seperate organization maybe in the works after the issues that were brought up.
Oct. 15, 2012
Gideon60
Men's 50
42 posts
So again I ask what did the winners get for the 695.00 they paid a t-shirt tahts not good for anyone
Oct. 15, 2012
stig1
Men's 60
32 posts
The winner of the World received rings and second place received silver metals. Those are fair awards for the world tournament. My biggest complaint is a couple of other national tournaments where awards do not reflect what was won. SSUSA what is your response to giving generic awards in your national tournaments?
Oct. 16, 2012
docnorm
Men's 55
97 posts
All you have to do is look at who runs things, his name is Terry Hennessy, that is all i have to say or they will use there power to kick me off the board.
Oct. 16, 2012
docnorm
Men's 55
97 posts
I think if i am correct YOU have to pay for your rings not SSUSA.
Oct. 16, 2012
docnorm
Men's 55
97 posts
It there a way to find out where all the BIG money is going?

Maybe the SSUSA should post the Honest records for all to read and investigate.
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