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EXTRA INNINGS

» 1jonsey: STAFF: if a game goes into extra innings and the offense forgets to ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Neither of these hypothetical situations are going to be found in the ...
1 May 17, 2014 816

STAFF bat knobs

» B.J.: what is SSUSA posistion of bat knobs...i know many batters have used ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA Official Rulebook details our position on bat knobs at 3.4 ...
      »taits: There are four I know of that are out there. One I use is just the ...
      »B.J.: STAFF...I hear that SSUSA has changed their stance on 2 knobs on the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: We have not changed our position on this, but rather have simply ...
      »B.J.: thx for the clarification and yes this did come up as a result from ...
      »SSUSA Staff: And we're not exactly going out on a limb here, but we suspect adding ...
      »B.J.: Bogie-class hitter....lol im hoping for out of the infield
      »'Skerz: I guess I really don't understand why taping a cone is ...
8 May 10, 2014 1446

OBSTRUCTION

» 1jonsey: STAFF...this happened in our game... runner on 1st...batter/runner, ...
      »swing for the fences : Umpire had it right! Anytime there is obstruction by fielder the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: We concur with BOTH the umpire's ruling and swing's very concise ...
      »BruceinGa: My understanding of the obstruction rule is that if the runner was ...
      »BruceinGa: found it: 8.4(10)A 4. When a runner, while advancing or returning ...
      »crusher: Bruce, Sounds like the runner should have been advanced back to 1st ...
      »B.J.: wow...really the runner makes a mistake by not seeing his team mate ...
      »Garocket: When a runner, while advancing or returning to a base, is obstructed ...
      »1jonsey: Garocket...I agree with you but read the rule part A 1 EXCEPTION: A ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 1jonsey ... Actually the converse to your theory is a more accurate ...
      »stick8: Had a play like this last year. Men's game, bases empty, no one out. ...
      »1jonsey: STAFF I understand awarding the obstructed runner the base he was ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 1jonsey ... It's apparent you are not going to agree with our ...
      »1jonsey: STAFF thx for your responses and explanations and you are right i ...
      »Garocket: Any rule that does not make sense should be either changed or looked ...
      »1jonsey: Garocket u r right i went back a couple years in old rule books and ...
      »Nancy Allen: Jonesy and Garocket, you have fallen into what I call Heart Rules. ...
      »Garocket: Nancy, has nothing to to with heart and more to do with common ...
      »Nancy Allen: Garocket, sorry to frustrate you. It is a Nancy Allen opinion and ...
      »Garocket: Nancy I do not have a horse in the race either. I have been umpiring ...
      »1jonsey: Nancy, i appreciate what you are saying and do agree that many ...
      »stick8: Here's a situation to ponder; Bases empty, no outs. Batter gets a ...
      »neck10: Just play ball ump'a will take care of rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!here's one ...
      »neck10: stick rob said he talked with you,he called me on Friday to tell me ...
      »stick8: Yes, I had a nice conversation with the Motor City Madman last week. ...
      »Garocket: Stick If the runner never tried to leg it out to second the umpire ...
      »Garocket: I was just looking thru the internet and found this Why is SSUSA ...
      »neck10: stick big arm will have to hire me to keep Robbie out of ...
      »neck10: stick all kidding aside rob will hit long ball with anyone you ...
      »SSUSA Staff: We're not sure why this call is leading to so much debate ... The ...
      »softball4b: And you had to ask that question Why.....Kind of like talking to my ...
      »stick8: Garocket your technically correct. In my scenario, the USSSA rule is ...
      »stick8: Neck I know Robbie all too well. I played league ball with him and on ...
      »joel 1975: stick he's a handful but really likes rickey & billy from kinnco ...
      »stick8: How do I get in on this free golf gig? lol
      »Garocket: Ok i more time and I will let it die LOL Runner gets a bae hit to ...
      »txnighttrain: I umpire USSSA.There is no rule 8.13. The rule is Rule 8 Sec 7.E. It ...
36 May 7, 2014 2095

BRICKYARD INVITATIONAL QUALIFIER 2014 Game Scores & Bracket Results

» SSUSA Staff: Game Scores and Bracket Results from the 2014 Brickyard Invitational ...
0 May 4, 2014 922

Illegal player

» Mario: SSUSA what happens when a team uses a player that has not yet turned ...
      »BruceinGa: Dale, I believe 10 or 15 years a team was caught with under aged ...
      »SSUSA Staff: In 2008, a team at the Atlantic Coast Championships attempted to use ...
      »taits: This is one reason I highly favor viewable rosters. If a player ...
      »17Black: I agree, having the ability of being able to view team rosters "could ...
4 May 2, 2014 1625

Double Rostering

» thejet: Does SSUSA have a simlar double rostering rule like SPA? (It is my ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Players may play in separate age divisions of the same SSUSA ...
1 May 2, 2014 793

Umpire Mistake

» Softballer48: Question: A Base Umpire (mistakenly) made a comment that a base ...
      »crusher: Playing today in a tournament in Plano Tx. Runner on 1st, batter ...
      »stick8: Softballer48 if what you stay is true that base umpire shouldn't be ...
      »Softballer48: stick8: This happened to be a league game that uses SSUSA rules.
      »crusher: Stick8 - it was the field ump. He did not watch the runner.
      »stick8: Softballer48, I head up a crew of USSSA umpires where I live. If I ...
      »stick8: Crusher, if I read your scenario correctly the field guy ran out into ...
      »Softballer48: stick8: My question: Is the appeal play valid, with an umpire ...
      »Wayne 37: If they are using two man mechanics, the base umpire should never go ...
      »stick8: Softballer48 if the defense does the appeal properly it would be ...
9 April 28, 2014 1153

I need a ruling on this scenario

» yankees02: we had this happen during our weekend tournament and I need opionins ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Umpire is correct ... This is NOT a force out at 2nd, since a force ...
      »mike23: If 2nd out is made before runner on 3rd scores no run if not ...
      »mike23: sorry 3rd out
      »stick8: If the out at second is recorded beofre the runner from third crosses ...
4 April 28, 2014 739

IS IT A CATCH

» 1jonsey: last weekend i was watching a game, an outfielder came running in on ...
      »Dbax: I say it's a catch and the umpire is a moron!
      »swing for the fences : I don't know if he's a moron but I know there are rules from using ...
      »lemons: If the ball did not hit the ground or any other illegal objects, it ...
      »mad dog: HEY I USE MY BELLY GLOVE ALL THE TIME WITH HI-HOPPERS.....GUESS I ...
      »1jonsey: i agree with you guys, but if you read the last sentence of the rule ...
      »Az Iz: Rules change so much anymore.... As far as I know he can catch th ...
      »Webbie25: Wow-talk about reading something into a rule. Eventually, unless you ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Actually, the intent of the rule is to prevent the defender from ...
      »Az Iz: WHAT? I can't use my hat? SO NOW I GOT TO GO OUT AND BUY ...
      »taits: Here I thought it was about control of the ball when you had it. ...
      »Webbie25: So Dave, what you are saying is that if I am chasing a flyball in ...
      »Garocket: You cannot use any equipment detached from its proper place to catch ...
      »1jonsey: Staff, I appreciate your explanation of the rule but why th ...
      »Webbie25: You guys are falling asleep out there. I really expected some debate ...
      »Adiktiv6: I use the Worth BFG, 15 incher!! I hope they make a 16 inch glove ...
      »Garocket: Adiktiv6 you do know that the BFG is illegal by the rule book. It ...
      »Adiktiv6: Say What???? lol The glove just looks bigger because of my small ...
      »Nancy Allen: Webbie, you know the rules. You can only wear a glove on your foot ...
      »Garocket: At this time that is the rule in all National Associations 14 inch.
      »Adiktiv6: Dangit....guess I will have to run faster!! Or wait till someone ...
      »Webbie25: A dik-I was going to say something also, but didn't want to 'out' you ...
      »stick8: 1jonsey, in your scenario I have a legal catch. And I have to ...
22 April 26, 2014 1923

Rule covering team movement

» Larry S: Is there a rule covering a team that chooses to move down? ie: 70 ...
      »SSUSA Staff: A player with 70-Major history choosing to move to the 65-AAA is ...
      »Larry S: The question concerned the whole team moving, not just one player. ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Same answer, whether it's one or 20 players, or anywhere in between ...
3 March 29, 2014 768

pitching

» Matt43: Agree about safety for pitcher. However the mask rule is not really ...
0 March 25, 2014 483

Huntsman World Senior Games

» Huntsman Senior Games: I am new with the Huntsman World Senior Games and I want to know what ...
      »taits: About the only thing, game wise, would be using a database of players ...
      »Wes: I have been there two years and I will not be coming back any time ...
      »BruceAZ: Last year was my 5th year, some good experiences and some bad. Great ...
      »ffdonnie: This year will be my 4th consecutive year. I've had a lot of fun each ...
      »Enviro-Vac: Want to improve Huntsman? Adopt a proper rating system for teams and ...
      »Chief144: Our team has been going for almost 20 years. Yes, there is ...
      »Omar Khayyam: I love the Huntsman: the area, the nice field conditions, the ...
      »stick8: I've attended twice and like Omar elluded to the area, fields, ...
      »neck10: stick you seen bobby stew????????????rickeymcdowell@gmail.com
      »garyheifner: Played there last year for the 1st time. Went for the experience. ...
      »deep14: Well That makes my team have second Thoughts about going for the ...
      »pureevil: Sorry I truly do not understand most comments , this will be my ...
      »deep14: Honestly,We are there for the fun but it is like the Olympics and all ...
      »BruceAZ: Pure, I love to play just as much as the next guy and I'm all for ...
      »Wes: I'm just wondering if the person who started this 1. ...
      »JD32: Took our 55AAA team to Huntsman in 2007. Got eliminated by a major ...
16 March 21, 2014 1890

Softball

» Gelpas: I was just wondering if ssusa are still using the 44/375 softballs ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Yes
      »ffdonnie: Ya sure, if you consider the ISA xrock a 44/375. (It's not)
      »Lefty: Gelpas here in the SE we use the Trump Stote for ssusa softball. I ...
      »PattyMac: Trump Stote is a terrible ball here in the South in the summertime. ...
      »DCPete: Agreed; the ball feels like it has a very low COR. There's no bounce ...
      »Gorilla Boy: Patty Mac is right,The heat does effect the Trump Stotes. The heat ...
6 March 13, 2014 1125

pitching rules

» Matt43: I to have been pitching for over 30 years and never took one in the ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Hello Matt43, I too have been pitching for a long time (my 62nd ...
      »taits: I notice many guys wearing a full set of catchers gear. Trouble with ...
      »BruceinGa: " Trouble with it is time it takes to put on and take off." Another ...
      »taits: You are absolutely correct Bruce. That's the up side but the ...
      »modi: everybody keeps complaining or arguing the same thing over and over ...
      »Vance+50: I'm not a pitcher, have great respect for the guys that will stand ...
      »modi: Vance, sorry if i misled you in my post, my response is not intended ...
      »mad dog: modi.....you are kicking a dead horse.....i have been suggesting ...
      »Omar Khayyam: mad dog, keep pushing. Played in a tournament recently where your ...
      »modi: We here in penna. have been using that ball for over 5 years, in fact ...
10 March 6, 2014 1221

2 Rules that are somewhat unclear

» PJ3P: 5.5(3) MERCY RULE FOR 50+ THRU 70+ MAJOR-PLUS (ONLY) If a team is ...
      »TimMcElroy: Item 1- The home team always has a chance to catch up, and (using ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 5.5(3) MERCY RULE FOR 50+ THRU 70+ MAJOR-PLUS (ONLY) The ...
      »mad dog: staff...then essentially you are stopping the game early....why ...
3 March 5, 2014 942

where are all the pitchers

» wyo22: After reading the newest copy of the Senior News I am astonished at ...
      »Mark 44: I really dislike the face mask rule. I've been pitching for 25 years ...
      »JBTexas : wyo22, you're 30 days late to the party, we've been complaining since ...
      »AcePV: Probably not what people want to hear, but until you see someone ...
      »Pricer: I believe the more equipment the pitcher wears, the more hitters feel ...
      »Capt Kirk: Our pitcher(s) will be wearing a mask at TOC (I am assuming that a ...
      »Caveman: I'm with AcePV, I wear a helmet and wire mask, wire mask is much ...
      »Olden Slow: Here in Prescott..Almost all the pitchers are moving down at least 1 ...
      »southernson: wyo22, I hate the mask and it's got problems of it's own. 1) ...
      »DOLFAN: If only some of you Pitchers realized that some Idiots are Shaving ...
      »joel 1975: just like a seat belt the screens the answer then hit the middle all ...
      »Caveman: Southerson, I've pitched 40+ years and have never seen anyone hit in ...
      »southernson: Caveman, I understand your point, it's well taken and respected. ...
      »Caveman: Southerson, I still agree that it should be an option and I think ...
      »titanhd: On a similar subject. Major League baseball is looking to implement ...
      »wyo22: Thanks to all who commented. Sorry I was not involved in all the ...
      »Mr. Manassas: I have been pitching since the 1980s and I have seen some serious ...
      »Airbosn: In Oct 2012 was hit in the head, spent the evening in sickbay ...
      »cyborg45: Southernson, Great take off on the cable vs, dish commercial. Very ...
      »wyo22: Hey Southerson. I agree with cyborg45, a great post using the ...
      »Mark 44: Capt Kirk - the TOC in Florida, is last years teams & subsequently ...
      »SS13: It's funny how most of the head hunters in this game are guys who ...
      »ACC: Someone please check my assumptions: ======= Major League ...
      »cyborg45: A well hit softball will be in excess of 90 mph. More like 100- 102 ...
      »garyheifner: Real simple guys. I wear the helmet, mask, cup and shin guards. Can ...
      »Skeptical: ACC, the flaw in your logic is that when an MLB pitcher is done with ...
      »Donnie C: I do not like the rule at all should be a matter of choice. ...
      »j33: I am reposting what I've said many times. Also maybe they should go ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Batter's Box enforcement is an "area of emphasis" for umpires this ...
      »coop3636: I want to make a few statements to this new rule. I have been ...
      »coop3636: Forgot one last point: As J33 said: GET RID OF THE RUBBERS. They ...
      »The yooper: Coop3636 I agree with the getting rid of the rubber, no real need for ...
      »Skeptical: Having pitched for many years, and maybe I am the exception, I have ...
      »Ceres: I wear a titanium mask when I pitch. It's lightweight, comfortable ...
      »The yooper: Skeptical, you are either lucky or I am unlucky. I still say the ...
      »Skeptical: yooper, maybe I am but I have honestly never had an incident with the ...
      »hurler: pricer thats not true if you hit the ball hard you stay away from ...
      »garyheifner: If you remove the rubber-I have seen at a number of fields small plug ...
      »AcePV: I agree with the idea of removing the pitching rubber for safety ...
      »Webbie25: I started writing letters to ASA and USSSA 25 years ago about doing ...
      »Skeptical: Webbie25, they will never start listening. Too many parks, too many ...
      »coop3636: Hey Skeptical, If you ask 100 pitchers (that pitch all the time in ...
      »Webbie25: Skeptical-I have seen 3 and they were all serious shots with the ...
      »Fleck14: *Batters Boxes Do Matter* I think they are key to pitcher safety. ...
      »Skeptical: coop, then call me lucky, I guess. :) And I have been hit, twice. ...
      »wyo22: Wow. We have gone from mandatory masks for pitchers to pitching ...
      »Skeptical: People will tend to gladly take as much as others are willing to ...
      »southernson: Guys, The rubbers aren't going anywhere, we only rent, not own those ...
      »Skeptical: "seeing balls hit the rubber is a very common occurrence" Again, ...
      »Mr. Manassas: I have been hit off of a deflection from the rubber...Broke my ...
      »meatball: Moved to Phoenix in Fall 2009, wife and I went to a Siefman tourney ...
      »Pricer: Huler, it's ok to disagree. But I'll stick to my comment made earlier ...
      »Skeptical: Pricer, if the batters you are referring to were really some kind of ...
      »The yooper: Mr.Manassas: I have also played with the 10 foot circle allowing the ...
      »txnighttrain: A person with good bat control does not have to hit at the pitcher to ...
      »garyheifner: For the what it is worth discussion: The way I now deal with the ...
      »southernson: garyheifner, Likee the 45 degree approach...agree.
      »Pricer: Skeptical, it's a mind set. Anyone who feels like the pitcher or ...
      »jsheeran: Agree with Pricer and txnighttrain.
      »DOLFAN: STAFF..I walk the box when I hit. Sometimes my left foot will land on ...
      »SSUSA Staff: @DOLFAN - "Lines are in" ... In the unlikely event an umpire at an ...
      »DOLFAN: Staff....Thanks you for the quick reply.
      »INHOC2: Re: pitcher's equipment, I can only say this: I pitched for years ...
      »SS13: Maybe when the pitcher gets drilled the batter should pitch the next ...
      »The yooper: DOLFAN: I also like to walk the box as it allows me to have more ...
      »AcePV: INHOC2: I agree with you completely, except I started wearing a ...
      »Tim Millette: My pitching experience is limited to right around when composited ...
      »Tim Millette: SSUSA STAFF... One problem with your post about turf fields batters ...
      »joel 1975: bet you never pitched from behind the screen,some guys have troubles ...
      »joel 1975: I know guys who can pitch from second base not much chance of them ...
      »neck10: yooper who cares if your out of the box the defence has 10 guys dont ...
      »The yooper: Rik, 10 defnders sometime do not help, look at my elders team in TC ...
      »j33: Nobody cares if you walk the box. I love pitching to box walkers, ...
      »neck10: don you pick yours i picked mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      »neck10: and dont forget better lookin,I have & can pitch from second base ...
      »neck10: yooper how many guys got hit in our leauge last year.the bats make a ...
      »The yooper: Rik: Not that many got hit at all, the bats do make a big ...
      »DOLFAN: @ Yooper, It also gets my timing right so I can Mash!! @ Neck10, ...
      »The yooper: DOLFAN: I agree it also gets my timing right and allows me to also ...
      »Joyce Montoya: I'm a pitcher for women's team. Yes tried new mask and found it ...
      »neck10: I pitch because I make out the line up dolfan i never said I could ...
      »joel 1975: hurler you are right most guys who hit the ball hard stay away from ...
      »The yooper: Rik, you are right easy to hit a large ball coming at you 4-5 mph. ...
      »joel 1975: yooper you know that neck10 could take you out ant time he wanted ,I ...
      »neck10: you want see me hit pitcher because that means I have to come in and ...
      »The yooper: Joel, yes I know he can hit it very hard anywhere he wants to hit it. ...
      »hurler: it must be nice using the screen our leauge also has different skill ...
      »neck10: yooper we played some teams with the wood bats ,I brought my ...
      »neck10: ssusa staff as long as the guy doesnt step closer to the pitcher what ...
      »The yooper: Rik, that goes to show you that the big guys can hit the ball hard ...
      »JDub: Senior Softball (SSUSA) has Mandated Pitchers must wear a Mask. I ...
90 Feb. 23, 2014 4286

You make the call part 643

» stick8: This play happened in a mens game, not a senior game, i was umpiring. ...
      »Mulewhipper: Good one...I believe the run counts as you have described the ...
      »BudLeftField: Hi stick8-If the shortstop runs to third base or throws to third base ...
      »mad dog: nope run doesn't count.....runner on 2b is forced into going to ...
      »TexasTransplant: Agree with Mad Dog. The force out does not have to be executed at ...
      »LP: mad dog i knew if i hung around this chat room long enough i would ...
      »stick8: Mad Dog, Texas Transplant and LP are correct. The run does not count. ...
      »Paul P: If a baserunner on 2nd base, attempting to score on a single, makes a ...
      »SSUSA Staff: If, in the sole judgment of the umpire, the 3rd base coach made no ...
      »mnmasters38: I was under the impression on a force play that the runner can stop ...
      »mad dog: mnmasters...that is a total falsehood except for one time,and that is ...
      »paul0784: If that were me umpiring as soon as he started running back to second ...
      »mad dog: paul,you would be totally wrong calling it that way......no runner is ...
      »stick8: Mnmasters38 and paul0784 I've been umpiring for 20+ years and I have ...
      »stick8: Mad Dog I have to disagree with you where you stated running ...
      »Downs: stick8, sorry to say that your application of the Batter-Runner rule ...
      »mad dog: stick as an ump i thought this would be a rule you knew...i know ASA ...
      »stick8: OK you two got me!! I should have clarified in USSSA I'm not ...
      »INHOC2: Two questions...unable to clarify in the rule book: 1) Is a foul tip ...
      »TimMcElroy: Section 1.29 FOUL TIP A foul tip is a ball that goes directly from ...
      »INHOC2: Thanks for responding, Tim. So in order for it to be an out, the ...
      »VINNY LV: the answer Paul gave is absolutely wrong.. being an ump myself ya ...
      »TimMcElroy: INHOC2 My response above was intended to discuss the scenario of a ...
      »stick8: Paul P, I have an out on that runner. Whether it's accidental or not ...
      »VINNY LV: stick, my call would be if the coach doesn't assist the runner he can ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA Rulebook requires (at pages 51-52) an umpire's judgment ...
      »stick8: I suppose if a baserunner was rounding third and tripped over the bag ...
      »SSUSA Staff: That's one scenario (so long as the coach doesn't help the runner up) ...
27 Jan. 27, 2014 2613

Equalizer runs

» INHOC2: Why are not the equalizer runs given in the first 5 innings? My AAA ...
      »titanhd: I may be wrong but, I think that you should have been given the 1 run ...
      »INHOC2: Perhaps I am a little dense...I am getting old, you know. The first ...
      »SSUSA Staff: RE-POST CORRECTION: The equalizer rules specify that the 5-Run ...
      »JBTexas : Staff, I agree with titan, fifth rule should have been given and that ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The "underdog" only gets the run in an inning that is actually played ...
      »JBTexas : Staff, I hate to be a pain but why isn't that stated in rule 1.21, it ...
      »SSUSA Staff: JBTexas ... The Official SSUSA Rulebook, at page 70, details this ...
      »INHOC2: Thanks for the clarification, even though if a team doesn't get the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Teams are ALWAYS entitled to their native defensive alignment in any ...
      »db14: Dave... If a cheetah can run at 40mph and a ardvark only 10 mph how ...
      »JBTexas : Staff, Thanks for a lesson in reading the complete rule book, didn't ...
      »DaveDowell: db14 ... That depends on the color of the apples! Green apples ...
      »obagain: So what would keep a better team from wasting time to make sure you ...
      »SSUSA Staff: An alert Tournament/Field Director taking charge and ruling ...
      »obagain: A few key pitching changes, players taking extra pitches or calling ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Doesn't have to be all that sophisticated from the Director ...
      »obagain: I don't see many directors that would take that stance, just in the ...
      »VINNY LV: Dave, what if he had yellow apples does he have to yield ??? ya knew ...
      »Webbie25: Anybody know where I can get a flashing yellow apple?? I played with ...
19 Jan. 21, 2014 1504

pitchers screen.

» larryreg: One big thing the screen Dosen't let me do... Now the pitchers can ...
0 Jan. 19, 2014 592

Home Run Rule

» INHOC2: If a Major team is allowed 6 home runs, and a AAA team is allowed 3 ...
      »titanhd: 3
      »JamesLG: From what I understand you play 3 HR's and give them a choice of 1 ...
      »chico senior: JamesLG - you play at whatever the lowest rated teams home run rules ...
      »JamesLG: Thanks Chico: Playing the lower lever HR rule is fine as long a ...
      »garyheifner: Once you get to the 70s you always get your 11th defender regardless ...
      »stick8: INHOC2, Picture you being on a AAA team playing a major team and you ...
6 Jan. 18, 2014 1126
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