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Any rules about location of safety screen?» HJ: Our plus 60 league requires our "Junior division" to use a safety ...»Webbie25: Good point, HJ. We have screens in our league. I have believed it ... »Larry S: This is our rule: For their safety, it is recommended that all ... »LP: why not go with a rubber ball like japan leagues use would solve ... »Gary19: Why not go without the special bats like everyone under 50 does? ... »Pull My Finger: 19 Tell us how much difference there is between a Senior and USSS ... »Gary19: There must be enough of a difference, or why do old guys insist on ... »Full Monty: The only tested difference is 1.20 or 1.21 Bpf. How big i ... »Pull My Finger: You answered a question with a question. »Gary19: For those of you foolish enough to argue that the difference is ... »Pull My Finger: I SEE NO ACTUAL ANSWER... NO FACTS THAT SUPPORT YOUR COMMENTS. S ... »HJ: All things being equal, a senior bat will create a slightly faster ... »Gary19: So what I have learned is: (a) The special bats are negilibly ... »stick8: Pull My Finger no need to get combative. I'm not aware of any ... »Gary19: stick, he doesn't need to ask himself anything. He knows the ... »Omar Khayyam: HJ, to give you more input on the topic of this thread (before LJ and ... »Omar Khayyam: Ooops. Meant LP, not LJ, as first hijacker. »Pull My Finger: 19 Tell us how much difference there is between a Senior and USSS ... »Pull My Finger: 19 Tell us how much difference there is between a Senior and USSS ... »neck10: why dont you just puyt the screen right in front of the pitcher make ... »Gary19: Enough that old men insist on using the special bats or most of them ... »Pull My Finger: Going by the numbers scientifically TESTED and PRINTED on the bat ... »curveball: Larry, Palm Springs league allowed placement of the screen like Omars ... »Gary19: Finger your last sentence might be correct, but instead of yelling it ... »taits: Gary, If by chance your referring to Omar, I'd be willing to bet he ... »Pull My Finger: Is repeating yourself all you can do? You don't use facts, your just ... »Gary19: Scott, I was not referring to anyone in particular. Certainly not ... »Pull My Finger: Is repeating yourself all you can do? You don't use facts, your just ... »RIK56: gary someone gives me the choice of two cars at pretty much the same ... »Gary19: Rich, I completely agree, but that isn't the point here. People, or ... »taits: Gary Generally speaking, senior players have always adapted to ... »Gary19: Scott, I will believe there were other issues with ASA than just the ... »Omar Khayyam: neck10 and curveball, I'm intrigued by the concept of pitching over ... »Gary19: Omar, thanks. I just can't believe more guys either cannot see ... »taits: Omar, Thank you. I agree on the extra distance but have also seen ... »Pricer: The game is changing more and more every year and maybe not for the ... »taits: Pricer, That's far from wishing for a screen in a game, trust me. »curveball: Omar, about 8' towards the batter, but off to the side the batter ... »Gary19: When there is this much discussion over the placement of a screen on ... »stick8: Gary, if it hasn't happened already, somewhere in the near future a ... »neck10: used one last night never got hit once in 6 leauge games & yes we go ... »neck10: omar in our traverse city 55& older leauge the fence is 12 feet in ... »neck10: if you put the screen to one side or the other then yoou are taking ... »Gary19: Taking the flat pitch out of the game is taking a weapon away from ... »neck10: i thought it was an illegal pitch so how can it be a weapon unless ... »neck10: gary why are the bats so special any one can buy or borrow one & use ... »MurrayW: neck10, does the pitcher walk towards the screen after pitching to ... »Gary19: A pitch does not become illegal until the ump calls it. And even ... »neck10: isnt that what we were talking about senior softball you keep talking ... »neck10: unless the ball were to be dropping fast then the taller pitcher ... »Gary19: I don't see the need for a rec division for travel teams. Travel is ... »neck10: yes but in young ball asa usssa nsa all the associations have 4 or 5 ... »Gary19: Seems like there are waaaaaay more teams playing in young ball than ... »Robo2: there are many good points and opinions. I do not pitch often; ... »neck10: good point ever one can get one »HJ: Thanks for all your comments. The only reason for a screen is safety ... »Gary19: Want to "maximize pitcher protection"? Deaden the bats. Anything else ... »RIK56: Deaden the bats wont work,if you really want to maximize pitcher ... »Donny C: The screen works fine in our league as neck10 has stated, good ... »Pricer: "A screen would be safer and nobody can dispute that point. The main ... »Gary19: Kind of sad how many old guys want to sell out the sport just so they ... »RIK56: All 50 caliber players please bring all of your senior bats this ... »Gary19: RIK, that is all well and good. Hahaha, and all that. =) But do ... »neck10: pricer more hot bats in your usssa than in asa & why are the usssa ... »Gary19: neck, my guess is they are hotter because USSSA allows them to be. »Pricer: Rik, just responding to an asnine reason for the senior's use of the ... »Batman54: Our league has moved to mandatory pitching screens (with, it seems, ... »neck10: Pricer I told you before i dont hit middle you pick on asa all I said ... »neck10: why not just pitch from behind the screen then less chance of batter ... »neck10: gary 19 we played in a 9 team bracket in the TOC in florida thats a ... »Gary19: neck, I understand that and have said in the past I realize the major ... »Batman54: HJ, I am glad you posted this question and I agree with your summary ... »neck10: pricer I dont hit many home runs I can hit just as good with a 98 ... »neck10: gary we try to go where there will be at least 5 major teams in our ... »Webbie25: neck10-SSUSA is growing and working on things to insure more teams ... »Gary19: Well, I guess technically going from 4 teams (or whatever microscopic ... »neck10: webbie that is positive thinking I know its more fun to have enough ... »Webbie25: Good luck-neck10---we do need to get rid of the constant negative ... »Gary19: As I pity your apparent lack of pride. »neck10: gary at least we show up to the tourney's we dont just sit home & ... »neck10: pricer you bring any bat you want Ill use a miken freak 98 thats asa ... »Gary19: So in some ways, I know not all, you are who PT Barnum ... »Webbie25: Gary-I used an Orange crush in one SSUSA tournament last year and hit ... »Gary19: Mark, obviously there are many more bats than just the senior bats ... »Webbie25: You didn't answer my question, as usual. Oh, yes you did, by not ... »Gary19: Played what? Softball? Played on Sunday? Tournaments? Played in ... »Pricer: Neck. I don't care what anyone hits better with. That was never my ... »neck10: pricer I play by the rules as long as things are even just tell me ... |
87 | June 15, 2012 | 2049 |
Golden Eagle Batters Boxes» 4x4: It has been a constant at Golden Eagle that more hitters are called ...»LP: you use the regular home plate not the senior mat, go from the ... »SSUSA Staff: The outside edge dimensions of the Batters' Boxes at Golden Eagle ... »mad dog: so staff your saying the batter must start witin the confines of the ... »Gary19: What is being discussed here is the size of the box, but not where it ... »SSUSA Staff: It's a permanent artificial turf softball complex and all lines are ... »BruceinGa: This subject was discussed here about three years ago. The question ... »4x4: Thanks Bruce (and G19) - that's exactly what I'm asking about. Where ... »Gary19: I think the Staff is basically saying "it is what it is". »curveball: "it is what is is" in not a satisfactory answer. If the batters box ... »garyheifner: With the use of the mat in senior softball, I can't think of any good ... »BruceinGa: Gary, I agree that there may not be a good reason for the batter's ... »mad dog: why is everyone whining about a batter's box...the box has been the ... »Gary19: Whining is what senior players seem to do. But keep in mind the ... »curveball: Bob, it's not the size, that's OK, it's the location where they place ... »mad dog: ROB DON'T UNDERSTAND,AS THEY ARE IN THE SAME PLACE THEY ALWAYS HAVE ... »Gary19: I completely agree with you about the advantages the hitter has, but ... »SSUSA Staff: We measured the Batter's box dimensions and their relational, to home ... »Gary19: Staff, GREAT post! LOL Now I know how guys on here think they, ... »taits: So it's off, both teams are using the same one. Good thing they ... »BruceinGa: Thanks, Staff, for going the the trouble to check it. »4x4: Meant to go up today and check them out but didn't get there. ... »BruceinGa: good luck this weekend Pete. Forecast here in Ga is 94 degrees! »curveball: Bob, as a pitcher, I agree with you. I thought others indicated the ... |
23 | May 26, 2012 | 1516 |
Reno...Home Run Rule» twotwo: I would like some clarification on the 40 Major Home Run Rule... Our ...»SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA Rules Committee at last year's September 'Special Session' ... »DD: Is it correct to say (generally) the HR rules have remained the same ... »SSUSA Staff: That would be an incorrect generalization. The SSUSA Home Run Rules ... »DD: I read this thread again and understand the HR limits only apply to ... »SSUSA Staff: DD ... "Asked and Answered" in the 3rd sentence of the immediately ... »Jawood: You're a 40+ year old pitcher in the Vegas tournament with the "Rock" ... »DD: Thank-you, SSUSA Staff, for explaining it again. Forgive my fit of ... »Gary19: DD, you want balance? Get rid of the special bats. NO need for them ... »DD: I would not mourn the loss of composite bats for one minute, Gary, ... »Gary19: I can't argue with your first paragraph. »Marv19: I'm with DD on this one guys. I know its not a total cure all but we ... »Lecak: DD you left out setting up the garbage cans in the parking lot and ... »twotwo: Thanks for the response SSUSA...My opinion is that the same rules ... »SSUSA Staff: All playing rules change proposals are open for discussion at the ... »Jawood: With the merger of SSUSA & LVSSA, they went WAY overboard at the ... »Webbie25: Dennis has some very good points and I am one that had to consider ... »Gary19: Mark, thank God I don't get what you allege others do. If the ... »Jawood: Webbie, I agree with you, like usual, but is the 2 out of area ... |
18 | May 25, 2012 | 1139 |
THE LECAK THREAD» DD: Joe, I take whatever you say so seriously you get your own thread. ...»Lecak: Dennis I can't remember everything you have said the web is not a big ... »the wood: DD: Your reference to me was/is grossly incorrect. I might offer you ... »DD: Point taken, Bob. I really didn't think you were that cagey, but some ... »Lecak: DD what is a minion is that one of those 350 lb guys you spoke of. »the wood: Joe, Google offers several definitions... some of them not so ... |
5 | May 24, 2012 | 718 |
One up Rule» softball4b: 8.4(2) – HOME RUN OVER THE FENCE - MAJOR PLUS (50+ to 65+) In the ...»turn2: I say Home Run because it is 1 up. Then bottom can get 2. Donnie »Webbie25: That's one loooong inning, Mike. It is a HR-Donnie is correct. The ... »taits: The way wrote if using "Progressive one up" in the bottom of 1st the ... »SSUSA Staff: Answer is Home Run as turn2 stated. Visitor in the example gets ... |
4 | May 24, 2012 | 800 |
Is this yelling out OK.» HJ: I have already learned from this message board that Utrip allows more ...»JamesLG: HJ: I would have to say that is about as chicken shit as it get ... »curveball: I agree James, CS for sure. »Nancy Allen: HJ, while most of my games have been NSA, I have also done many ASA ... »Webbie25: Nice call, Nancy-while it may not be specified in the rules-I will ... |
4 | May 18, 2012 | 968 |
How does your league handle this» HJ: I play in a 60+ league. I have played 3rd base and know that ...»Gary19: 1. Really hard to say without actually seeing the contact. 2. Any ... »taits: No contact at all during play. Runner is out. Happened to me a few ... »Gary19: Scott, you might have been called out on a play like this, but I ... »HJ: The runner started the play on second so he was not wide at all. ... »Gary19: Actually, yes. I understand safety and all that, and also understand ... »stick8: Like Gary19 says I'd have to see this play to make a judgement. Just ... »Joncon: """The third baseman took umbrage but in fact was not knocked ... »Gary19: stick, my understanding is that a runner is only awarded the next ... »taits: Gary, refer to your number 1. However we only get one ump maybe once ... »Joncon: If the a no contact rule is always on the runner, even honorable old ... »Gary19: Joncon, that is exactly correct, and not at all how it should be. »stick8: Gary it could be synonomous with a runner rounding first and running ... »Gary19: My understanding has always been that he gets as many bases as the ... »stick8: That makes logical sense gary19 and the more I think about it I ... »HJ: I believe Gary19 correctly states the obstruction rule that the ump ... »Nancy Allen: HJ, I ump but without seeing it or being in the league with their ... »stick8: Gary19 your correct. In the situation described in the first post of ... »HJ: Stick8, I am not a certified ump and would like to hear from one who ... »Gary19: stick, good call. Do you think they were complaining because they ... »Nancy Allen: HJ, Utrip is very different from other types of softball, and ... »Garocket: About the 1st baseman waving his arms In ASA and ISA not sure about ... »Gary19: Where I have played it is a somewhat common practice to hesitate just ... »stick8: Gary they were just trying to steal a call as do most teams at that ... »Gary19: I was hoping that was the case. =) »stick8: HJ, if your referring to the scenario in the first post of this ... »stick8: Garocket I'm not so sure about that. The firstbaseman can do what he ... »Garocket: Stck you are wrong, contact does no have to be made for obstruction. ... »Gary19: Garocket, that is different. Though in that case the runner should ... »stick8: Garocket allow me to first point out that I'm not and never have been ... »stick8: Gary your exactly right when you say games are meant to try and be ... |
30 | May 14, 2012 | 1127 |
My conclusions from 2 prior discussions, what are yours?» HJ: I conclude that safety rule changes for senior players should be ...»garyheifner: 1. Agree totally. Just before dlb bags became quite standard, 1st ... »curveball: 1.agree 2. leave rule as it is, it works. 3. leave rule as it ... »Nancy Allen: 1. The only place that I do not see these are in church leagues. I ... »Gary19: Let me add one more rule to the discussion as well. Get rid of the ... »Omar Khayyam: Gary19, I know run limits per inning is an issue with you, but what ... »Gary19: Omar, fair enough. I was thinking it was about rules in general, but ... »HJ: I would like recreational players to become members here and tell ... |
7 | May 14, 2012 | 886 |
Obstruction or OK» HJ: Our league of old guys plays by ASA rules except if the league has a ...»Gary19: Second ump is correct. And throwing the ball through the runner ... »stick8: The second umpire you asked to is exactly correct. This is strictly a ... »Nancy Allen: HJ, the first umpire needs a lesson in liability. If an umpire or an ... »Nancy Allen: P.S. Obstruction = runners Interference = fielders »Gary19: Nancy, maybe you are speaking as a product of an overly-litigious ... »HJ: Thank you for your comments. First ump was not advocating sliding, ... »Gary19: HJ, yes I have. Close to 20 years ago. Our SS gave the baserunner a ... »JT9: As well as the SS/2B should be aware that they can be taken out to ... »Gary19: JT, I agree, but this runner was nowhere near the base for a ... |
9 | May 4, 2012 | 785 |
2012 Home Run Rule Clarification» Brett: SSUSA please clarify the following rule: Can the home team go ...»garyheifner: I understand the rule as written. What I don't understand is if the ... »taits: Don't care for the home team not being allowed to use what they can ... »udaplaya: SSUSA staff, this very issue came up in our game at the WW in LV. ... »Gary19: More Socialism. =( »Webbie25: udaplaya, taits and garheifner-the rule is right by not letting the ... »stick8: Webbie I might be wrong here but I'm pretty certain NSA started the 1 ... »udaplaya: W25... Please note my comment..."to be clear, i do like SSUSA's ... »cal50: The rule as the SSUSA staff stated it is the one that makes the most ... »titanhd: Understand too that the allotted limit does not have to have been ... »cal50: titanhd, I think you are wrong. If there is a 7 home run limit and ... »titanhd: Thanks Cal. »taits: Webbie, I am aware of all that, But I simply just do not like ... »DCPete: Neither team (Home or Visitors) has any room to complain now that ... »Gary19: Pete, if seniors cared about strategy instead of "blasting" the ball ... »crump22: Webbie25,what do Obama has to do with a senior softball homerun rule? »garyheifner: gary 19 Once again, since you don't play on the tour, you have ... »Gary19: Once again, it doesn't take some of us repeated playing to see how ... »Bomber #7: Unfortunately, you've painted yourself into the corner that "heif" ... »Gary19: Don't need three outs to go in and bat. Other team does not have ... »mad dog: do you know that except for the bats,i have played all of those ... »Gary19: You might have. I have never. And the difference is while those ... »stick8: Mad Dog I woukld guess the vast majority of house or city adult (not ... »Gary19: The pup just tries so hard, and lamely, to make points. And I ... »mad dog: stick i understand for champ play it doens't happen,also on the ... »swing for the fences : "Webbie25,what do Obama has to do with a senior softball homerun ... »crump22: swing for the fences, i though this were a softball site,you not ... »Gary19: Why do I have the feeling that in '08 Swing voted for an unqualified, ... »swing for the fences : I agee with you Crump, it's some flea that starts it with Socialism ... »Gary19: By the way Swing, Socialism is an economic system, NOT a political ... »swing for the fences : Last post speaks for itself.... Keep drinking the Koolaid! how can ... »Gary19: Didn't your father ever teach you it is better to keep your mouth ... »RIK56: gary name calling you know better then that. »Gary19: You call that a "name"??????? It was much more a ... »swing for the fences : RIK56 don't bother with this person, it's just what the turd wants! ... »swing for the fences : So if we have 7 to 7 tie last inning home team at the plate bases ... »Gary19: If I continually posted responses of such poor quality I would not ... »cal50: swing, that is correct as you stated it. »4x4: G19 - If we can take your word from your last post (directed at SFTF) ... »steve65: AMEN »Gary19: If I didn't care, I wouldn't care that: Not needing to record ... »Bomber #7: "It's amazing the SSUSA let's someone so negative about the Senior ... »neck10: if you ignore him he might go away & I bet ssusa knows what he's ... »DCPete: Swing; you bring up another good reason why the extra HRs should be ... »Gary19: Oh, I don't know Bomber, maybe SSUSA commendably believes in the ... »neck10: 30 years ago there were more teams playing you didnt have to play up ... »salio2k: Gary19...Why do you speak of the past? When you became eligible to ... »Gary19: Because without learning from it you are destined to make ... »Gary19: By the way, I understand some/many/all of this is never going to ... »salio2k: Brett.....I understand what you are saying, but now you'r hijacking ... »Maj + player: The explanation of the one up rule by ssusa staff is not what the ... »SSUMP18: Maj + player, I agree that the explanation by SSUSA is not what the ... »SSUSA Staff: We have again reviewed the actions of the 2011 Rules Committee ... »Gary19: So if the homer contributes to an eventual win later in the 7th it is ... »cal50: The rule as you now interpret it even gives the home team a much ... »Gary19: cal, as you know I am far from a defender of many senior rules, but ... »cal50: The better question is what good does it do? Of course it holds up ... »Gary19: How slow do your baserunners move? They should be able to jog 65' ... »cal50: If it doesn't server a purpose why do it? Does it make you feel ... »Gary19: What "little zinger"? There was nothing even remotely offensive in ... »Webbie25: cal50-he will say anything to try to be a pest here-it's all he has ... »Webbie25: NOT! »Gary19: "NOT!"????????? What are you, 12? Still waiting for someone to ... »swing for the fences : Webbie, is it right that you were hitting leadoff.... I say new ... »Webbie25: You're right-I bow to the superior intelligence of the great gary19 ... »garyheifner: Have any of you guys ever had a big "ZIT" on the end of your nose? ... »Gary19: Never said that Mark, and your sarcasm is a poor attempt to deflect ... |
66 | May 3, 2012 | 2448 |
To the BOD of USA» swing for the fences : when I started in the 40s a few years back, we had the circle around ...»Webbie25: Swing-we have had this discussion many times. After hearing about ... »swing for the fences : Webbie, if you give the pitcher 4 foot area which is deemed safe ... »#19: Ridiculous, as previously posted! »Gary19: My God, what guys will accept just to be able to "proudly" hit balls ... »canIjack: My answer is No swing, Webbie, I like the idea of just move the ... »Robo2: I pitch from time to time. I wear chin guards but that is all. I ... »mad dog: kennard i'm with you,i still pitch to kids and will at times try and ... »GI: Webbie I agree with you about removing or putting rubber ground ... »Gary19: "I have had some players come up and tell me they will go ... »GI: I was trying to be nice I agree with you middle is open. I should ... »Gary19: I give you credit. At the point he said that he needed his mouth ... »GI: Being a school counselor means I have to try and walk my talk for the ... »Gary19: I can certainly see where you are coming from with this. I might ... »Joncon: An invisible circle won't protect anyone from anything. The ball will ... »Gary19: Not so sure the 1b and 3b don't have an interest in this ... »Webbie25: As usual Gary is having a field day with this one. His jealousy at ... »swing for the fences : Webbie, I have zero problem with zero rule changes. I just think that ... »Gary19: Webbie, prove yourself right first, then I can become concerned with ... »mad dog: g-19,third party sources...mmmm nope i have talked with players ... »Gary19: The Schones guys I have not seen in years, and the Silverados play ... »mad dog: at league they most likely don't have a choice,and it has been a ... »Gary19: Actually the Silverados asked me to play some years ago, and when I ... »Webbie25: It is extremely hard to prove it when you will not get off the couch ... »Gary19: An offer of what? To travel to New Mexico? I can play here, why ... »Webbie25: Duck, Duck, goose. You keep thinking that, Gary. I can send a crane ... »Webbie25: You know you can't come out to a tournament and identify yourself ... »Gary19: My name and hometown is on my profile here. How much more ... »Bomber #7: Webbie, he's not going to NM. Another member offered him air fare, ... »Gary19: If only BP bore any real resemblance to game situations. »E4/E6: Gary19, stand on the pitchers rubber when Kennard, Irwin, Mike Adair, ... »canIjack: Okay this post is F up once again, thanks guys. »Gary19: E4, understood. I was referring to BP pitching is not "game ... »Webbie25: You are not clear on most things, Gary. You just have a huge wish to ... »Gary19: What I say is "outrageous" only to the shills. »JT9: Webbie25, As long as there are fish in the pond willing to take the ... »Webbie25: JT9-This fish is full-he is just a bad apple on here. Too bad. No ... »Gary19: "bad apple"???? For thinking the senior game can and should be ... »mad dog: your like the guy who doesn't vote,but has to tell everyone how to ... »Gary19: You know I have. It doesn't take some of us 10 years to see the ... »swing for the fences : Gary 19 if they went back to single wall bats and the 50 core 575 ... »Gary19: swing, I understand it is more the bat/ball combo. But I also know ... »Omar Khayyam: swing for the fences, don't know where you were playing back in the ... »the wood: Omar, we played quite frequently in Nor Cal, starting in '73 ... »Omar Khayyam: Wow, I was thinking of Palo Alto, Stockton, Hayward, Redwood City, ... »Webbie25: Hey, Wood-we also played a lot of those teams you talk about. We had ... »the wood: Omar, The composites obviously offer you (and everyone else) the ... »taits: Omar, Wood, Some good history info there, thanks. Many of the ... »Tim Millette: This is an interesting topic. It seems there are those that believe ... »Gary19: Tim, I like your dinosaur analogy. Though the one difference is the ... »taits: Maybe I ought to find a Opal GT I learned to drive in at 13, or ... »Gary19: taits, I agree on both of those. I have used the Ultras as well, ... »taits: Well, simply put, that was one issue of change but I believe that was ... »swing for the fences : Omar, I play in northern Cal. We were playing with single walls and ... »Omar Khayyam: swing for the fences, I agree that single wall aluminums with good ... »Gary19: Omar, for everyone on here living a delusion, your last paragraph ... »the wood: Omar, I'm not sure who said that 300' fences were 'the norm back ... »Omar Khayyam: Sorry the wood, I took swing for the fences to be thinking that 300 ... »stick8: Omar, do you remember the Wilson TN Poly? Hands down that had to be ... »Webbie25: Stick8-the TN-Poly, Dudley t-4000 and the Worth Hot dot were ... »Omar Khayyam: stick8, I don't remember playing with the Wilson Poly, but I remember ... »Gary19: What makes what Mark and Omar said even more remarkable is they are ... »stick8: Because of the lively bats and balls senior softball uses today one ... »stick8: Webbie & Omar I do remember that Dudley T-4000. And of course who ... »Gary19: stick, I think you are absolutely correct with your question. I have ... »Webbie25: Stick-I remember that one too. We were playing a tournament in ... »stick8: Gary one pro that I like is there are very few tournament night ... »stick8: Scores like that sounds about right for that ball Webbie. Another ... »Webbie25: stick-those balls were so bad there were very few tough plays. You ... »swing for the fences : Omar, you are dead wrong... Ask Tim Millete, ask Wood, ask anyone in ... »Omar Khayyam: swing for the fences, as I said back on March 22, I remember playing ... »curveball: Pitcher protection, whether by a chalk circle or added equipment is ... »saddlebrookrick: Maybe 280 fences with asa bats would be the answer or 275 -280 with ... »Omar Khayyam: curveball, that's an interesting perspective. In basketball, players ... »Gary19: Omar, here is the most interesting question. If Senior bats don't ... »swing for the fences : Omar and the other guy,, composites have changed the game... no one ... »Gary19: swing, it is fun dunking basketballs too. Let's start a league with ... »curveball: Omar, don't forget the big word, BUSINESS. Major League baseball has ... »Omar Khayyam: curveball, I agree with the idea that owners want to see more home ... »Webbie25: Omar, Omar, Omar-I will say up front I respect you. You play and have ... »Omar Khayyam: Webbie, nice to hear from a fellow ex-bowler...and one who agrees ... »Gary19: Omar, how did I get dragged into this? LOL »Omar Khayyam: Gary19, just trying to be a peacemaker. LOL »Webbie25: Omar-he is like the mosquito. He bugs you but you have to realize ... »swing for the fences : Omar l play with the kids in leagues. O will an hit as far and ... |
84 | April 13, 2012 | 2368 |
How long does a Roster» swing for the fences : How long does a roster move take to be excepted before the next ...»neck10: I would think as soon as george or terry approves it your good to go. |
1 | April 7, 2012 | 383 |
Interference?» buchananjw1: A ground ball is mishandled by the shortstop just a few feet behind ...»neck10: it would be a judgement call by the umpire if its self defence thats ... »Joncon: Runner didn't defensiely catch the ball. Instinctively ... »Gary19: So what do you think the runner was supposed to do as he sees a ball ... »buchananjw1: Defensively was correct -- the ball was coming directly toward the ... »Gary19: That is a good point. Sometimes a no call is the best call to make. ... |
5 | March 17, 2012 | 621 |
ssusa & umpires, u make the call» Freddie: player sitting the bench, goes in to play defense(catcher or any ...»Gary19: These days it probably depends on the particular league's or ... »steve65: Freddie in reading your scenerio the way it is written makes this a ... »Gary19: Again, assuming the league or tourney didn't have any whacky "senior" ... »Bomber #7: 100% of all visiting teams. Any sub placed in the game when teams ... »Gary19: Sure the "situations" have been around forever, though again do you ... »neck10: if the pitcher is susposed to bat and the other guy batted out of ... »E4/E6: For Cripes sake Gary, do you have to jack every freaking thread? If ... »Gary19: Not jacked at all. The obvious truth is without knowing the ... »VINNY LV: Was it appealed b4 1st pitch to next batter ??? If so then batter is ... »OTE24: He has to be put into the batting order BEFORE he steps on the ... »stick8: After the sub batted their had to be an appeal before the first pitch ... »Freddie: Umpires thank you for your response. Let me make it simple for some ... »Freddie: Thank you for your response according to ssusa rule book the sub ... »garyheifner: Thank you Freddie for answering the original and interesting ... »Gary19: "As usual, the well thought out rules of SSUSA for the great game of ... »garyheifner: Gary 19 I ran into some guys who know you. I now understand you ... »Gary19: Nice job of missing the point. As the example I used, a 5-run inning ... »Pricer: Should not throw stones when you live in a glass house! »mad dog: pricer who ya talking about ??????? »Paul C: I see one posted answer is batter is out and another said sub player ... |
20 | Feb. 27, 2012 | 1516 |
This really happened» Webbie25: YOU MAKE THE CALL - TOC STYLE Runners on 1st and 3rd ... Batter hits ...»birdie: I would say ground rule double just like a ball wedged under the ... »steve65: I would think once fielder touches the ball it is in play. If he did ... »Gary19: What call were they yelling for the ump to make? There was no call ... »Gary19: Oh, and the ball was not over the fence, so no home run call to make ... »stick8: Webbie if I was umping I'd have to see the play live but since that ... »Wayne 37: Rule book double, R3 scores, R1 awarded 3rd. B/R awarded 2b. The ... »Gary19: Wayne, I disagree. Your second paragraph only applies if the fielder ... »Corky: If the ball was tipped before going out of play or being lodged in ... »Corky: Webbie: Wanted to get a chance to play against my buddy John but with ... »Webbie25: Corky-he is alive and still searching out old female classmates from ... »Gary19: Mark, check again with Dave. I don't believe he feels that way about ... »ShaneV: An untouched ball could be ruled dead ball, ground rule something, ... »paul0784: Mark that was against us if I remember correctly, Hannington's/Bay ... »Webbie25: Gary-you weren't even there, for crying out loud. I have talked to ... »Webbie25: paul-great tournament to you guys! You had to be tired after so many ... »Gary19: No, I wasn't. Not my point. Just ask Dave what he believes the ... »Gary19: Oh, and if you want to know why I am saying this, email me. ... »paul0784: Mark as was talking to you. Good luck with GSF and hope it is what ... |
18 | Feb. 20, 2012 | 1568 |
rosters» jrhunch: i know major rosters has to be touching states.how about major plus?i ...»titanhd: NO not true. »Jawood: I thought that WAS true per the SSUSA/LVSSA merger. I would like to ... »taits: From the rules meeting: BORDER CLOSURE RULE REPEAL [SSUSA Ruleboo ... »SSUSA Staff: Roster Composition Rules Recap - BORDER CLOSURE RULE was repealed ... »Jawood: Thought so. By letting Major-plus teams have 2 players from ... »jrhunch: thank you staff for the info. jawood at least when you play ssusa ... »Bomber #7: Jarwood, you are right on. The lower Major+ teams aren't attractive ... »donll: Wouldn't allowing players from non bordering states increase the ... »Bomber #7: No, it makes the sponsored top of the division even tougher to ... »donll: I remember reading here about major plus players who couldn't play ... »Jawood: Because, donil, that's what the top Major-plus FUNDED teams do ... ... »jrhunch: donll-the 2best players on a major team are probably major plus ... »Bomber #7: donll, some of the best players in the country are picked up for ... »jrhunch: donll major plus players that dont have a major plus team in their ... »donll: I kind of remember several years ago about a major plus player named ... »Bomber #7: 6-7 years ago that senerio would have made the Mavericks less of a ... »batter4u: having moved from California and playing on a major+ team there to ... »Mario: Maybe the thing to do then, is to do away with the bordering rule as ... »Webbie25: It really is a 'darned if you do and darned if you don't situation'. ... |
19 | Jan. 28, 2012 | 1447 |
Breaking up a SPA Nat. Champion to stay in Majors, how many players can a team keep ...» Batbreaker: Is this even possible? if so who needs to approve it.»SSUSA Staff: See the Message Board post near the top of the page titled: TEAM ... »Mario: Just curious why you would brake up a team instead of moving up? »Gary19: It seems to be the senior way. Notice how many teams on the board ... »crusher: Mario, Yes very interesting. I have been on 2 different teams to win ... »coop3636: I can give a few reasons a team would NOT move up to the next ... »stick8: Brett, reasons 1 and 2 are compelling enough to combine major and ... »Mr. Manassas: I have been on many teams that win a tournament and have been moved ... »birdie: Stick8, The ISSA has combine the Major Plus and the Major divisions. ... »birdie: Mr Manassas, Good luck next weekend. Your best buddy Mr Grumpy »stick8: That's a good thing birdie. Now if only SSUSA and the others can ... »Tim Millette: On this major plus thing.... Seniors have the same problem the kids ... »E4/E6: Tim, this will still mean rating individual players, am I correct? ... »BruceinGa: Birdie, what are you thinking??????? You know we will be lucky to ... »Mario: I believe you could combine Major+ and Major. Just make the HR rule 7 ... »Mario: Stick8 call me at 317-281-0734 at your earliest convienience. »Tim Millette: On this major plus thing.... Seniors have the same problem the kids ... »birdie: Bruce, I know that you guys will be able to hold your own against any ... »BruceinGa: I don't have any plans to play with them in the TOC. |
18 | Jan. 21, 2012 | 1686 |
Foul out to catcher» Stretch001: Our league heard that the rule regarding a foul out to the catcher ...»SSUSA Staff: No - The rule remains unchanged in the SSUSA Rulebook. Still must ... »cw: Stretch - just be aware that this rule is not the same across all ... »ham24: In ASA the foul ball does not have to go above the batters head. If ... »Gary19: Interesting. How do they define "effort"? »Joncon: He didn't quite quote the ASA rule properly. Foul ball and foul ... »mad dog: joncon i have seen them tho,yes they are very few and far between,but ... »stick8: Mad Dog in USSSA if a batter has a 0-0, 1-0 or 2-0 count any foul ... »mad dog: ah got cha,so it would be the same as catching a third strike foul ... »stick8: That is correct Mad dog |
9 | Jan. 11, 2012 | 1848 |
Rule change Interaction» garyheifner: Some have stated we (actual tournament players) don't have any imput ...»mad dog: gary i like the double for safety sake,even the kid assoc use it,not ... »pitcher55: an individual player poll would be wise.mailed to every player.list ... »garyheifner: Mad Dog My rule concern is not the double base, it is great and ... »ham24: I know in ASA rules once attaining 1st base a player can start from ... »Gary19: While I agree about protecting your head, the one advantage you can ... »Webbie25: Gary, I just went through my copy of the rules and did not see that ... »Tater50: Gary: I have stated it many times; but the power of the vote is what ... »SLOBALL1: pitcher 55.I don't see where anything would have to be mailed. The ... »Webbie25: I think you guys underestimate how many people talk to the tournament ... »mad dog: garyh never heard that if your touching the orange bag in conjunction ... »TOMAR77: Agree with the, 1.White/Orange Bases at 1st 2.Strike Mat ... »Gary19: TOMAR, you certainly are welcome to your beliefs, though some reason ... »TOMAR77: I am actually much like a mild mattered Clark Kent. The Superman in ... »Gary19: Fair enough. I honestly don't see any of those rules having ... »Webbie25: How magnanimous of you, Gary, to actually allow us to have our own ... »Gary19: I always have, I just ask for some thought behind them. I only ... »tg69: Webbie25.good meeting you in Vegas..I guess you know your wasting ... »Webbie25: tg69-can't let you have the last word yet! lol It was good to meet ... »Wes: Gary-there are some rule that are made because there are still some ... »Webbie25: Wes-we had a kamikaze kid here in Albuquerque at our old sportsplex ... »Gary19: Wes, where were you positioned when the collision occured? »Webbie25: Wow-now it was Wes's fault?? Bottom line-it would not have happened ... »Gary19: Not sure yet. If he was in the baseline, who else's fault would it ... »Webbie25: Would it have even happened with the second plate? No. And that's the ... »steve65: Come on Gary---lets erase the batters box around your thinking and ... »taits: I agree with Tomar77 & will add one, no flip flop. Rule on double ... »Gary19: Would it have happened if the sport had been abolished? No. How far ... »taits: Gary, It's ok man, the game will continue, honestly it will. With ... »Gary19: Scott, the second home plate is one of the less-annoying "senior" ... »steve65: and on we go-----Gary I covered the second base situation in my first ... »Gary19: So infielders are expected to see balls coming off the special bats, ... »steve65: Gary again you change--can you not stay on subject--your original ... »taits: Gary, I could agree w\ that as to w\3rd but Having Bb and Sb with ... »Gary19: All the same subect, plays at second base. Scott, sure you score ... »steve65: trying to be safe in order to have the opportunity to score later is ... »Gary19: Absolutely correct. I will be out January 5th playing indoors. How ... »steve65: indoor starts jan 10 TOC in Feb--- »Gary19: Glad to see we will both be playing this winter. Next spring and ... »frampton: The chief difference at second and third is, the runner can't go past ... »mad dog: when sliding do you have to slow down any,just asking...... also ... »Gary19: frampton, there are also plenty of moves a catcher can use to avoid ... »frampton: Agreed about the catchers (though a throw from right does make you ... »Gary19: All my understanding as well. »E4/E6: Bob, rule 8.6 in the current rules book pretty well covers this, it ... »Gary19: So what is the call if you don't slide, avoid, or collide? If you ... »taits: 8.6 SLIDING OPTIONAL - AVOIDING COLLISIONS Sliding or diving into ... |
46 | Dec. 29, 2011 | 1219 |
Rules of the Game-Love them» garyheifner: Try and remember that the rules we play under are not mandated by a ...»Jawood: I would love to agree with you, Gary, but just can't. However, since ... »#19: Being in the majority does not necessarily equate with being what is ... »Webbie25: Best is in the eye of the beholder. »taits: ...best serve the majority.... I believe the majority of senior ... »Tater50: Gary: "over the years to best serve the MAJORITY" I have only seen ... »Gary19: Tater, it might very well be that there is a Yearly Summit v. a ... »taits: Polls can be a useful tool. SPA has conducted 2-3 that I participated ... »Pricer: I would love to see the mat at home plate gone. The corners of the ... »taits: Pricer, Up until about 2 years ago I played in some T's that had ... »Gary19: Pricer, the reasons I have heard on here many times for the mat are ... »Tater50: Simpler Solution to the Player Poll: If mass eeees are too much a ... »DCPete: Sure the mat creates a 1-size-fits-all strike zone but the reality is ... »garyheifner: The mat is great. Hit the mat-strike. Miss the mat ball. I ... »crusher: I have been asked to vote on rules and what is wanted by SPA. SSUSA ... »Gary19: Pete, we all have had our own experiences but mine are much ... »taits: Gary19, You said it, " Everyone was looking for some edge, as it ... »Gary19: I know they are legal. Still cause more problems than they are ... »taits: Gary19, Agreed on no edge, per se. Perhaps consider leaving Sr ... »garyheifner: Still trying to figure out all the problems caused by our bats as ... »kbl: guys, i guess the older i get (65s), the more i dont like senior ... »mad dog: well guys,the mat is wider than the plate for ssusa and spa,take a ... »Gary19: Longer games that cause time limits. Artifically more scoring that ... »Gary19: pup, what will the 1-1 count do for the game? »neck10: pricer you do know the matt has corners and if you hit one its a ... »Gary19: neck, no doubt it is better for the hitter, though worse for the ... »Gary19: Wow, I said that wrong. No doubt it is better for the PITCHER....... »Pricer: I think that anyone who thinks the mat is better for the pitcher, has ... »Gary19: I know it is just your opinion, but how is it not better? A) It is ... »Pricer: G, let me point out hitting the plate with ball was never intended to ... »Mr. Manassas: Nothing wrong with the mat and I pitch. It does seem to standardize ... »Gary19: Jeff, it might not have been the intention, but obviously it is the ... »Pricer: Manassas, they never gave back that inside pitch. It was always ... »Mr. Manassas: I respectfully disagree. I think that you can still make it difficult ... »neck10: we had a pretty good pitcher in florida last year (randy johnson)from ... »neck10: what happens when the ball hits the plate in play with no matt ball ... »Omar Khayyam: The mat was a new experience for me 11 years ago when I began to play ... »neck10: gary19 I agree with you if the batter stays in the same spot as he's ... »Gary19: neck, that is probably true, but why should guys have to change how ... »Mr. Manassas: I respectfully disagree. I think that you can still make it difficult ... »Gary19: Manassas, that is sometimes true, and all the time incorrect. But ... »garyheifner: Gary, can't figure out some of your comments. Back in my U-Trip days ... »Gary19: Gary, you really can't compare u-trip strike zones to ASA/SSUSA. ... »tinman: Gary,I pitch and agree 100% with your last comment about the ... »mad dog: garyh,hate that crap,been there done that,i find when that happens i ... |
44 | Dec. 27, 2011 | 1170 |
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