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» Gelpas: I was just wondering if ssusa are still using the 44/375 softballs ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Yes
      »ffdonnie: Ya sure, if you consider the ISA xrock a 44/375. (It's not)
      »Lefty: Gelpas here in the SE we use the Trump Stote for ssusa softball. I ...
      »PattyMac: Trump Stote is a terrible ball here in the South in the summertime. ...
      »DCPete: Agreed; the ball feels like it has a very low COR. There's no bounce ...
      »Gorilla Boy: Patty Mac is right,The heat does effect the Trump Stotes. The heat ...
6 March 13, 2014 1216

pitching rules

» Matt43: I to have been pitching for over 30 years and never took one in the ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Hello Matt43, I too have been pitching for a long time (my 62nd ...
      »taits: I notice many guys wearing a full set of catchers gear. Trouble with ...
      »BruceinGa: " Trouble with it is time it takes to put on and take off." Another ...
      »taits: You are absolutely correct Bruce. That's the up side but the ...
      »modi: everybody keeps complaining or arguing the same thing over and over ...
      »Vance+50: I'm not a pitcher, have great respect for the guys that will stand ...
      »modi: Vance, sorry if i misled you in my post, my response is not intended ...
      »mad dog: modi.....you are kicking a dead horse.....i have been suggesting ...
      »Omar Khayyam: mad dog, keep pushing. Played in a tournament recently where your ...
      »modi: We here in penna. have been using that ball for over 5 years, in fact ...
10 March 6, 2014 1294

2 Rules that are somewhat unclear

» PJ3P: 5.5(3) • MERCY RULE FOR 50+ THRU 70+ MAJOR-PLUS (ONLY) If a team is ...
      »TimMcElroy: Item 1- The home team always has a chance to catch up, and (using ...
      »SSUSA Staff: 5.5(3) • MERCY RULE FOR 50+ THRU 70+ MAJOR-PLUS (ONLY) The ...
      »mad dog: staff...then essentially you are stopping the game early....why ...
3 March 5, 2014 1011

where are all the pitchers

» wyo22: After reading the newest copy of the Senior News I am astonished at ...
      »Mark 44: I really dislike the face mask rule. I've been pitching for 25 years ...
      »JBTexas : wyo22, you're 30 days late to the party, we've been complaining since ...
      »AcePV: Probably not what people want to hear, but until you see someone ...
      »Pricer: I believe the more equipment the pitcher wears, the more hitters feel ...
      »Capt Kirk: Our pitcher(s) will be wearing a mask at TOC (I am assuming that a ...
      »Caveman: I'm with AcePV, I wear a helmet and wire mask, wire mask is much ...
      »Olden Slow: Here in Prescott..Almost all the pitchers are moving down at least 1 ...
      »southernson: wyo22, I hate the mask and it's got problems of it's own. 1) ...
      »DOLFAN: If only some of you Pitchers realized that some Idiots are Shaving ...
      »joel 1975: just like a seat belt the screens the answer then hit the middle all ...
      »Caveman: Southerson, I've pitched 40+ years and have never seen anyone hit in ...
      »southernson: Caveman, I understand your point, it's well taken and respected. ...
      »Caveman: Southerson, I still agree that it should be an option and I think ...
      »titanhd: On a similar subject. Major League baseball is looking to implement ...
      »wyo22: Thanks to all who commented. Sorry I was not involved in all the ...
      »Mr. Manassas: I have been pitching since the 1980s and I have seen some serious ...
      »Airbosn: In Oct 2012 was hit in the head, spent the evening in sickbay ...
      »cyborg45: Southernson, Great take off on the cable vs, dish commercial. Very ...
      »wyo22: Hey Southerson. I agree with cyborg45, a great post using the ...
      »Mark 44: Capt Kirk - the TOC in Florida, is last years teams & subsequently ...
      »SS13: It's funny how most of the head hunters in this game are guys who ...
      »ACC: Someone please check my assumptions: ======= Major League ...
      »cyborg45: A well hit softball will be in excess of 90 mph. More like 100- 102 ...
      »garyheifner: Real simple guys. I wear the helmet, mask, cup and shin guards. Can ...
      »Skeptical: ACC, the flaw in your logic is that when an MLB pitcher is done with ...
      »Donnie C: I do not like the rule at all should be a matter of choice. ...
      »j33: I am reposting what I've said many times. Also maybe they should go ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Batter's Box enforcement is an "area of emphasis" for umpires this ...
      »coop3636: I want to make a few statements to this new rule. I have been ...
      »coop3636: Forgot one last point: As J33 said: GET RID OF THE RUBBERS. They ...
      »The yooper: Coop3636 I agree with the getting rid of the rubber, no real need for ...
      »Skeptical: Having pitched for many years, and maybe I am the exception, I have ...
      »Ceres: I wear a titanium mask when I pitch. It's lightweight, comfortable ...
      »The yooper: Skeptical, you are either lucky or I am unlucky. I still say the ...
      »Skeptical: yooper, maybe I am but I have honestly never had an incident with the ...
      »hurler: pricer thats not true if you hit the ball hard you stay away from ...
      »garyheifner: If you remove the rubber-I have seen at a number of fields small plug ...
      »AcePV: I agree with the idea of removing the pitching rubber for safety ...
      »Webbie25: I started writing letters to ASA and USSSA 25 years ago about doing ...
      »Skeptical: Webbie25, they will never start listening. Too many parks, too many ...
      »coop3636: Hey Skeptical, If you ask 100 pitchers (that pitch all the time in ...
      »Webbie25: Skeptical-I have seen 3 and they were all serious shots with the ...
      »Fleck14: *Batters Boxes Do Matter* I think they are key to pitcher safety. ...
      »Skeptical: coop, then call me lucky, I guess. :) And I have been hit, twice. ...
      »wyo22: Wow. We have gone from mandatory masks for pitchers to pitching ...
      »Skeptical: People will tend to gladly take as much as others are willing to ...
      »southernson: Guys, The rubbers aren't going anywhere, we only rent, not own those ...
      »Skeptical: "seeing balls hit the rubber is a very common occurrence" Again, ...
      »Mr. Manassas: I have been hit off of a deflection from the rubber...Broke my ...
      »meatball: Moved to Phoenix in Fall 2009, wife and I went to a Siefman tourney ...
      »Pricer: Huler, it's ok to disagree. But I'll stick to my comment made earlier ...
      »Skeptical: Pricer, if the batters you are referring to were really some kind of ...
      »The yooper: Mr.Manassas: I have also played with the 10 foot circle allowing the ...
      »txnighttrain: A person with good bat control does not have to hit at the pitcher to ...
      »garyheifner: For the what it is worth discussion: The way I now deal with the ...
      »southernson: garyheifner, Likee the 45 degree approach...agree.
      »Pricer: Skeptical, it's a mind set. Anyone who feels like the pitcher or ...
      »jsheeran: Agree with Pricer and txnighttrain.
      »DOLFAN: STAFF..I walk the box when I hit. Sometimes my left foot will land on ...
      »SSUSA Staff: @DOLFAN - "Lines are in" ... In the unlikely event an umpire at an ...
      »DOLFAN: Staff....Thanks you for the quick reply.
      »INHOC2: Re: pitcher's equipment, I can only say this: I pitched for years ...
      »SS13: Maybe when the pitcher gets drilled the batter should pitch the next ...
      »The yooper: DOLFAN: I also like to walk the box as it allows me to have more ...
      »AcePV: INHOC2: I agree with you completely, except I started wearing a ...
      »Tim Millette: My pitching experience is limited to right around when composited ...
      »Tim Millette: SSUSA STAFF... One problem with your post about turf fields batters ...
      »joel 1975: bet you never pitched from behind the screen,some guys have troubles ...
      »joel 1975: I know guys who can pitch from second base not much chance of them ...
      »neck10: yooper who cares if your out of the box the defence has 10 guys dont ...
      »The yooper: Rik, 10 defnders sometime do not help, look at my elders team in TC ...
      »j33: Nobody cares if you walk the box. I love pitching to box walkers, ...
      »neck10: don you pick yours i picked mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      »neck10: and dont forget better lookin,I have & can pitch from second base ...
      »neck10: yooper how many guys got hit in our leauge last year.the bats make a ...
      »The yooper: Rik: Not that many got hit at all, the bats do make a big ...
      »DOLFAN: @ Yooper, It also gets my timing right so I can Mash!! @ Neck10, ...
      »The yooper: DOLFAN: I agree it also gets my timing right and allows me to also ...
      »Joyce Montoya: I'm a pitcher for women's team. Yes tried new mask and found it ...
      »neck10: I pitch because I make out the line up dolfan i never said I could ...
      »joel 1975: hurler you are right most guys who hit the ball hard stay away from ...
      »The yooper: Rik, you are right easy to hit a large ball coming at you 4-5 mph. ...
      »joel 1975: yooper you know that neck10 could take you out ant time he wanted ,I ...
      »neck10: you want see me hit pitcher because that means I have to come in and ...
      »The yooper: Joel, yes I know he can hit it very hard anywhere he wants to hit it. ...
      »hurler: it must be nice using the screen our leauge also has different skill ...
      »neck10: yooper we played some teams with the wood bats ,I brought my ...
      »neck10: ssusa staff as long as the guy doesnt step closer to the pitcher what ...
      »The yooper: Rik, that goes to show you that the big guys can hit the ball hard ...
      »JDub: Senior Softball (SSUSA) has Mandated Pitchers must wear a Mask. I ...
90 Feb. 23, 2014 4490

You make the call part 643

» stick8: This play happened in a mens game, not a senior game, i was umpiring. ...
      »Mulewhipper: Good one...I believe the run counts as you have described the ...
      »BudLeftField: Hi stick8-If the shortstop runs to third base or throws to third base ...
      »mad dog: nope run doesn't count.....runner on 2b is forced into going to ...
      »TexasTransplant: Agree with Mad Dog. The force out does not have to be executed at ...
      »LP: mad dog i knew if i hung around this chat room long enough i would ...
      »stick8: Mad Dog, Texas Transplant and LP are correct. The run does not count. ...
      »Paul P: If a baserunner on 2nd base, attempting to score on a single, makes a ...
      »SSUSA Staff: If, in the sole judgment of the umpire, the 3rd base coach made no ...
      »mnmasters38: I was under the impression on a force play that the runner can stop ...
      »mad dog: mnmasters...that is a total falsehood except for one time,and that is ...
      »paul0784: If that were me umpiring as soon as he started running back to second ...
      »mad dog: paul,you would be totally wrong calling it that way......no runner is ...
      »stick8: Mnmasters38 and paul0784 I've been umpiring for 20+ years and I have ...
      »stick8: Mad Dog I have to disagree with you where you stated running ...
      »Downs: stick8, sorry to say that your application of the Batter-Runner rule ...
      »mad dog: stick as an ump i thought this would be a rule you knew...i know ASA ...
      »stick8: OK you two got me!! I should have clarified in USSSA I'm not ...
      »INHOC2: Two questions...unable to clarify in the rule book: 1) Is a foul tip ...
      »TimMcElroy: Section 1.29 FOUL TIP A foul tip is a ball that goes directly from ...
      »INHOC2: Thanks for responding, Tim. So in order for it to be an out, the ...
      »VINNY LV: the answer Paul gave is absolutely wrong.. being an ump myself ya ...
      »TimMcElroy: INHOC2 My response above was intended to discuss the scenario of a ...
      »stick8: Paul P, I have an out on that runner. Whether it's accidental or not ...
      »VINNY LV: stick, my call would be if the coach doesn't assist the runner he can ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA Rulebook requires (at pages 51-52) an umpire's judgment ...
      »stick8: I suppose if a baserunner was rounding third and tripped over the bag ...
      »SSUSA Staff: That's one scenario (so long as the coach doesn't help the runner up) ...
27 Jan. 27, 2014 2745

Equalizer runs

» INHOC2: Why are not the equalizer runs given in the first 5 innings? My AAA ...
      »titanhd: I may be wrong but, I think that you should have been given the 1 run ...
      »INHOC2: Perhaps I am a little dense...I am getting old, you know. The first ...
      »SSUSA Staff: RE-POST CORRECTION: The equalizer rules specify that the 5-Run ...
      »JBTexas : Staff, I agree with titan, fifth rule should have been given and that ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The "underdog" only gets the run in an inning that is actually played ...
      »JBTexas : Staff, I hate to be a pain but why isn't that stated in rule 1.21, it ...
      »SSUSA Staff: JBTexas ... The Official SSUSA Rulebook, at page 70, details this ...
      »INHOC2: Thanks for the clarification, even though if a team doesn't get the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Teams are ALWAYS entitled to their native defensive alignment in any ...
      »db14: Dave... If a cheetah can run at 40mph and a ardvark only 10 mph how ...
      »JBTexas : Staff, Thanks for a lesson in reading the complete rule book, didn't ...
      »DaveDowell: db14 ... That depends on the color of the apples! Green apples ...
      »obagain: So what would keep a better team from wasting time to make sure you ...
      »SSUSA Staff: An alert Tournament/Field Director taking charge and ruling ...
      »obagain: A few key pitching changes, players taking extra pitches or calling ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Doesn't have to be all that sophisticated from the Director ...
      »obagain: I don't see many directors that would take that stance, just in the ...
      »VINNY LV: Dave, what if he had yellow apples does he have to yield ??? ya knew ...
      »Webbie25: Anybody know where I can get a flashing yellow apple?? I played with ...
19 Jan. 21, 2014 1592

pitchers screen.

» larryreg: One big thing the screen Dosen't let me do... Now the pitchers can ...
0 Jan. 19, 2014 623

Home Run Rule

» INHOC2: If a Major team is allowed 6 home runs, and a AAA team is allowed 3 ...
      »titanhd: 3
      »JamesLG: From what I understand you play 3 HR's and give them a choice of 1 ...
      »chico senior: JamesLG - you play at whatever the lowest rated teams home run rules ...
      »JamesLG: Thanks Chico: Playing the lower lever HR rule is fine as long a ...
      »garyheifner: Once you get to the 70s you always get your 11th defender regardless ...
      »stick8: INHOC2, Picture you being on a AAA team playing a major team and you ...
6 Jan. 18, 2014 1209

New rule

» JBTexas : Anyone but me have a problem with the new face mask rule for pitchers ...
      »Fred S: I don't like it but on the other hand it is making me do something I ...
      »taits: They love to impose rules.... Wearing gear is smart however. I ...
      »obagain: I would rather they do that then to restrict bats or make the balls ...
      »LP: JBTexas i have a big problem with ssusa imposing this type of rule, ...
      »JBTexas : Larry, problem I have is that it is harder seeing the ball with a ...
      »Adiktiv6: I agree 100% with JBTexas & LP!! Pitchers are already a "target" ...
      »Adiktiv6: oops...that should read "the now CHANGED HR rule"
      »obagain: I don't understand all the whining about the HR rule. So if you cant ...
      »mad dog: JB/larry..you have seen the one i wear(rip-it) right....it has great ...
      »Dbax: Just got home from Tucson tournament. Not one pitcher I talked to ...
      »PattyMac: Bad Change, back to the pitchers having to pay for it. SSUSA knows ...
      »Omar Khayyam: It was predictable that this rule was coming. I pointed out two years ...
      »rightrj1: The rule will make teams and pitchers chose if they want to play in ...
      »Ho: You can complain all you want to SSUSA and probably SPA and ISSA in ...
      »stick8: Does anyone remember the middle hitting rule from a couple years ago? ...
      »crusher: S8, Yes. 65 and 70+. These guys are a little wiser and have seen ...
      »BogeyBert21: When does it stop, first the mask, then shin guards, then chest ...
      »taits: It's about liability, not (just) safety. Sure it has something to do ...
      »JDub: I've been Pitching for many years, mainly U-Trip. I've been Blind in ...
      »garyheifner: Gotta disagree that you can't see the ball. I have a mask and a ...
      »Eurskine: Gary...This is Eurskine,coach of the Monarchs.What type of mask do ...
      »JBTexas : GaryH, got to disagree with you. Glad you can see clear as a bell but ...
      »PattyMac: Again can someone from the SSUSA staff address WHY the rules have ...
      »southernson: Have to wear a mask? Forced to wear a mask? If that's the case, I'm ...
      »Enviro-Vac: Hockey players used to say the same about helmets. Today all wear ...
      »Caveman: I believe it should be a choice not a mandate. I do wear a helmet and ...
      »400: JDUB let's "face" it you always looked better with the mask on. ...
      »400: Patty Mac I have always thought that the complete player, regardless ...
      »PattyMac: 400, I have always wanted to be te complete player. I usually ...
      »Adiktiv6: PattyMac, Keep swinging the bat! Let Mr 400 (batting avg, I'm sure) ...
      »garyheifner: JB TEXAS Will explain one more time. Hard hit low liners that I ...
      »Mango: I too would be interested in hearing SSUSA’s rationale for the rule ...
      »garyheifner: EURSKINE I have a plastic mask that I used to pitch with. It is ...
      »PattyMac: I think the major and major plus divisions should be rolled into one ...
      »Duke: PattyMac, combining Major and Major Plus teams is just not going to ...
      »PattyMac: Duke, Thanks for your response. Just to let you know some of my ...
      »Graphite: Mr.Eurk,The Worth helment/mask isn,t bad.
      »Eurskine: Thanks Graphite..called Direct Sports...with the Senior Player ...
      »Pieman: I have a problem with the mandatory mask rule. I tried the masks ...
      »Pieman: Was just thinking that why not make everyone wear a mask even while ...
      »Duke: Pieman, I agree that there are a few balls that I could have caught ...
      »Duke: Pieman, Forgot to mention that safety is now more important, than ...
      »AcePV: I personally think a pitchers mask is a great idea. I've used two ...
      »INHOC2: Reiterating a comment I made in "Where are the Pitchers" section: ...
44 Jan. 18, 2014 3473

Rules Committee Minutes

» softball47: So, What IS the Olympic Rule for Transgender Players... it is a ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Here is an excerpt from an article by (trans-gender athlete) Donna ...
      »ACC: Can someone please explain to which senior tournaments SSUSA rules ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Any tournament run under SSUSA sanction ... That generally includes ...
      »ACC: Thank you. I have written nsga.org (Senior Games; email ...
4 Jan. 4, 2014 1151

STAFF question on scoring of runs

» B.J.: I was going over rule 5.7 SCORING OF RUNS....B No run shall be ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Here's one easy scenario: One out ... Runners on 1st and 2nd ... Fly ...
      »B.J.: thx for your response, but I dont really consider that a true appeal ...
      »SSUSA Staff: A runner shall be called out, after a successful live ball appeal, if ...
      »txnighttrain: On the other hand, if the legally tagged runner crosses the scoring ...
      »stick8: B.J. the scenario SSUSA staff posted indicates the defensive team is ...
      »B.J.: stick8 i agree with your scenario...read my OP below...and as I ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J. - You apparently, despite a very clear explanation above, do not ...
      »swing for the fences : great explanation Staff!
      »ShaneV: This might help, let's say same scenario as above, runner from 1st ...
9 Dec. 28, 2013 1998

65 AA player playing 60 AAA

» qdup1: I am going to PHX Worlds in less then a week and a 60 AAA team would ...
      »d45: I believe that once you go up to an AAA team, especially in the same ...
      »softballnuts: I played 55 AAA in the Las Vegas World Masters. Will I be eligibl ...
      »crusher: I think SSUSA has a Number that sets a level of play. 55AAA may be ...
      »d45: Softballnuts, if you are 65, and played down, I believe you will be ...
      »Duke: gdup1, a 60AAA team has 5 rating per SSUSA and 65AA team has a rating ...
      »txnighttrain: Rule 4.2(6) A player may play in two age division under the following ...
      »Duke: txnighttrain, While you have quoted the rule book as to what team a ...
      »Wes: Duke Where do you find you chart in the rule book???? As I read the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The Ratings Index Chart (below) is not published in the SSUSA ...
      »Wes: So help me out with your chart: I'm playing 70's AAA Are you saying ...
      »SSUSA Staff: If you are currently 74, turning 75 during the calendar year 2014, ...
      »Duke: To All, In addition, this chart is used in tournaments when teams ...
      »Wes: Wow Thank you for your help but I'm to old to understand all of ...
      »txnighttrain: If it effects a team then it should say so in the rule book. It looks ...
      »smooth01: According to your chart , as a 60 AAA player you are saying I was ...
      »SSUSA Staff: You were not playing "illegally" on the 50's team, assuming your ...
16 Dec. 26, 2013 2301

80+ Rule change

» BillK: The new rule change for 80+ teams, where they phase out the 78 and 79 ...
      »swing for the fences : BillK, of all the rule changes I have seen on this board an ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The reality of the previous rule is that 82 and 83 year old players ...
      »crusher: Sounds like a good change Staff.
      »BillK: I would like to thank the staff for responding to my comment. I think ...
      »Fred S: It also should equalize the competition. It will possibly drop the ...
      »swing for the fences : SSUSA, had no idea the 80s division was so cut throat! Jeez...
6 Dec. 26, 2013 996

New rules and communication

» Malo37: Wow, I've been out of it and just found out about these new rule ...
      »Marv19: God bless you too David. You and Your team are the real deal. Its ...
1 Dec. 21, 2013 913

1 up rule

» cal50: Staff, Was there a discussion at the rules committee to change from ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The "1-up Rule" received mention in a couple of general comments, ...
      »taits: Both those; 1-up and 11 man D work and you are aware of that so why ...
      »Dbax: The 1up rule is the way to go. Just common sense.
      »Tim Millette: If you are thinking about 1 up, I think any homer over the one up ...
      »ffdonnie: If the rule had to be changed (shouldn't have) then the 1-up should ...
      »chico senior: The best thing that NCSSA does better then SSUSA is the 1-up rule. I ...
      »taits: A good compromise in the Hr rule would be the 1 up but it you are ...
7 Dec. 21, 2013 1178

SSUSA 2013 RULES COMMITTE MEETINGS • Minutes, Decisions & Other Actions

» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2013 SSUSA ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The Rules Committee Minutes have been corrected to properly state the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Face Masks, Home Runs Top List of New SSUSA Rules for 2014Softball ...
2 Dec. 20, 2013 5265

Home run and divsion rating thoughts

» garyheifner: Be honest, most of the M+ teams and many of the M teams are carefully ...
      »kbl: Garyheifner...Great bunch of thoughts!! Thanks, Ken
      »PattyMac: GAry, I like the idea of divisions. 2 divisions : Major - 0 ...
      »Sparky.1: Now "IF ONLY" the "POWERS TO BE" will read and consider this ...
      »TexasTransplant: Gary, I would add: segregate the M+ teams on their own field or ...
      »mad dog: gary like what you have said but have the hrs like this AA = 1 HR ...
      »LeeLee: LOL they don't won't to run around the bases do you really think they ...
6 Dec. 18, 2013 1224

face mask rule

» j33: I have been pitching for over 30 years. In the last 12 years I have ...
      »AcePV: As a pitcher myself, I personally like the idea of a narrow pitching ...
1 Dec. 15, 2013 767

Scoring Line? In MLB?

» ShaneV: http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove13/story/_/id/10121849/mlb-intends-ban- ...
0 Dec. 12, 2013 621

Dead Ball Out

» JohnBob: I see where SSUSA has went back to home runs over the limit being ...
      »PJ3P: Obviously pitchers wearing masks being mandatory because of this ...
      »Adiktiv6: BAD decision.....This rule change by the SSUSA knowingly puts the ...
      »mad dog: why should this put the pitchers in harms way anymore,then if there ...
      »leftyfalcon: Well lets see in AA and AAA it was a dbo already after you made your ...
4 Dec. 8, 2013 1160
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