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| Aug. 5, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Input Pricer Nice question and should generate a lot of discussion. You have to feel the organizations overall are doing a good job or they wouldn't stay in business. At the end of the day this is a business for them. Like any business you can't please everybody so you keep your finger on the pulse and do what's best to grow your businees. If an individual are group starts threatening or complaining the oganizations should listen, determine if change is needed and move on. If they don't accomodate these folks then the complainers have a decision, either quit playing in this organiation or continue to play. If they continue to play after saying the won't participate what does that say about their credibility? I believe as players we have the right to share or thoughts and ideas with these organization, but we don't have the right to dictate to them. |
| Aug. 4, 2011 perly | Topic: Bats Discussion: Reebok Customer Service Fisrt Rebook lasted maybe 750 swings. Great bat with serious pop. Second bat busted less than 100 swings. Reebok replaced bat is 6/7 week. Third bat busted around 50 swings. Reebok has had the bat since 7/14. I was a big Reebok fan, however the performance seems to have gone backwards from the first batch and their customer service needs a lot of work. I still like the bats but sometimes you feel we are being used and abused by the companies. Come on Reebok, customer service it crucial in the retail business. |
| Aug. 2, 2011 perly | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Survey Time: So if you're forced by SSUSA/SPA/et al to hit a dumbed down ball even though you would rather hit a good bat/ball combo you're a "real player." In that case almost everyone is a real player because we all want to play and very few would really quit because of the ball. You say "A screen in the middle of the diamond is a carnival how about if you hit the screen you get to throw a ball at a dunk tank and if you hit the target you dunk you or your buddy Joey Joe." Who uses a screen, the SSUSA, NSA or SPA, where I usually play don't have screens? Some leagues, which have many ages and player levels may use a screen. No matter what ball you hit a screen is a good idea for those leagues. By the way we are playing slowpitch softball not baseball. To similar games but toally different in many aspects. If you want to play baseball go find a baseball league. Finally, you and your 52 core ball advocates are the vast minority until the SSUSA, SPA, FHC, NSA, NorCal and other organizations go to the sock. |
| Aug. 2, 2011 perly | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Survey Time: garyc, who are these "real players" you're talking about. Do you mean only the guys that agree with you and and want the 52 core ball? If those are the real players they seem to be the minority on this board. I personally know Patty Mac, Lang, GaCMan, Tater50, the hitman and many others who do not want to go to the 52 ball. These guys are not only real men but real good softball players. They'd all probably agree to go to USSSA/NSA bats and a decent ball but why go to a sock? To even the field for lesser players. Also, please don't use safety as a reason for the 52 ball without some REAL facts to back it up. Players were gettting drilled 30 years ago with metal bats and good reflexes. Other than pitchers and some infielders wearing protective gear what "carnival" are you talking about? Please answer this question: Do you swing a Senior Bat when you play league or tournaments? |
| Aug. 1, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Todays's Game (2) Pricer I am referring to everyone who has participated in the personal attacks. I have said numerous times I like the current bat/ball combo. That said, I am not supporting any particular person because I don't know you, einstien, GaryC, Gary19, mad dog, Al33, Doker, Saddle, #6, etc. At least, I don't know you by your website name. I think debate is a good thing. I've often disagreed with you and probably will continue to disagree with you on occasion. You've also disagreed with me, but we've both been respectful in our comments. |
| Aug. 1, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Todays's Game (2) SSUSA, this is your website. You have established standards for participation. Don't you think it's time to contact some of these individuals about thier name calling, threats, classless comments and general lack of respect for each other. I don't want to see anyone banned from posting but there has to be some control over how far you let this bantering back and forth goes. This is such a great forum for us senior softball players and it's a shame that a few guys have tuned it into a verbal war zone and everyone who reads these post is a hostage. Post your opinions, state your facts, except the other sides views and debate with class. |
| July 29, 2011 perly | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: LET'S FIX THE TOP--Part Two maddog, you are correct about the C/D/E teams playing the big boys on occasion, expecially in the USSSA Conference. This is still not the norm for the lower level teams. And when it's time for the state and nationals they all want to play where they can win. Gary19, your idea about having one division will never fly. Maybe you don't care if you have a legitimate chance to compete and win but most guys do care. Teams from big cities or with big dollars will always have the advantage. There need to be different divisions, just maybe not so many. Where I live, in the Florida Panhandle, there is nothing but D/E ball primarily. We have one "B" team and maybe 10 "C" teams. Believe me, winning the "E" Worlds means a lot to these guys. May seem rediculous but it's true. |
| July 29, 2011 perly | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: LET'S FIX THE TOP--Part Two The problem with Major + is the same problem the young guys have with upper level softball. There are 3 Major teams in the U.S. Resmondo, GTL Cartel and Team Combat. These teams go out and get the best sponsors and players and dominate softball. What is the incentive for A/B teams to want to play the big boys. Don't tell me the only way to get better is to play these guys, that doesn't wash. I read a local young buck website all the time and the guys talk about playing up and getting better but when we have a "B" tournament the C/D/E teams all run and hide. Bottom line, teams/players want to compete and have a chance to win. Fixing the Major + problem won't be easy. Talk on the young guys boards is to have a Major Player list and let a team have 3/4 of these players. Will that work for them or us? We won't know until it's tried. |
| July 29, 2011 perly | Topic: Bats Discussion: Senior Bats Pricer, not sure about the waivers. Gary19, like you I wish we didn't have run limits, time limits, et al. Do you think these things are due to the equipment or the organizations wanting to control things? I think it's more the organizations wanting to keep the scores close and keeping games times on schedule. Unlike you, I think the pitcher, as well as some infielders, wearing protective equipment is a good thing. Go to "softballcenter.com" and look at some of the young guys slideshows from tournaments. Many of these kids wear the protecticve gear. They aren't swinging senior bats and they still have the quick reflexes. Also, most of the young guns "Conference" tournaments use the bat tester so cheater bats aren't easy to get by the tester. |
| July 29, 2011 perly | Topic: Bats Discussion: Senior Bats Pricer, I'm with you, if senior bats have a real risk factor and there's proof of increased injuries then maybe the bats shouldn't be used. My question is "Where's the proof?" Are there numbers to back this up or is the risk factor issue just a bunch of guys opinion, like the good bat/ball combo versus dumbing down the game opinions? I have to believe if the SSUSA, SPA, etc. really saw an increase in injuries caused by the bat/ball combo they would want to correct this for the benefit of the player and possible liability matters they may have to deal with. To date these organizations haven't taken any action to stop usnig SB's so I have to believe they don't have evidence of this "risk" people are talking about. Or do you think the organizations don't care about player safety? |
| July 29, 2011 perly | Topic: Bats Discussion: Senior Bats Crusher, I think you're on to something. It would be interesting to see the percentage of guys that get a year or more out of a senior bat. It's probably the majority. I play league and there are guys that get 2/3 years out of a SB. However, I bet on my tournament team every guys has busted at least one bat this season. The bat controversy may go on for years. Do we go with USSSA-ASA bats that can be shaved and become even hotter than SB's or stay with SB's? Do we keep SB's and dumb the ball down. Gary19 and Pricer, is it a bad thing that Pappy can hit some bombs now even though he couldn't 30 years ago? Or is Viagra a bad thing? Golfers hit 300+ yard drives today, they didn't 30 years ago. Cars get 30+ mpg today, they didn't 30 years ago. And I can go on and on with how technology has improved the world. But for some reason there are guys who think softball should go back to where we were 30 years ago. I don't get it? |
| July 27, 2011 perly | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Survey Time: hitman Yes, we won Sunday. Played OG's from Louisville a very close 20-18 game in the finals. Congtrats to you guys on winning the 60's division. GaCMan, Joey I've never hit the 52/275 ball have you? Some say it's ok and others say it's a sock. Like you, I'd take the U-Trip combo over senior bats and the 52 ball if the ball is indeed a "sock." |
| July 27, 2011 perly | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Survey Time: stick8 Yes, I'd play with USSSA bats/balls. Played last weekends NSA Eastern Tournament with this equipment and it was fine. My preference is current bat/ball combo but it the majority voted to hit wood bats I'd still play. |
| July 27, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Todays game? einstein, if you quit posting I would miss you. While we've never met and sometimes I don't agree with you I still value your ideas and thoughts. Pricer, Webbie25, GaryC, #19, #6, Tate50, GaCMan and others who post on this site I hope all of you continue to share your thoughts and ideas. I really think we play the Greatest Amatuer Team Sport in the World. Is the game perfect, of course not, but it is what it is. The game can only be improved when guys like you share your ideas and the organizations listen. None of us or perfect and definitely none of us are right all the time. |
| July 27, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Atta A Boy; Atta a Girl!!! Tater50 Every team, if they're lucky, has someone who leads and motivates the team. However, I bet very few teams have a Sherry and Joey (GaCMan) that go above and beyond like these two. This couple knows how to enjoy each other, enjoy softball and share thier good fortune with friends. Two fine folks that I'm blessed to call friends. |
| July 22, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Leave It Go Gary19 Totally agree with your statement "I do believe what is better are games without run limits, time limits, home run limits, PPRs, halos, screens, goalie equipment, and the asinine thing known as middle-is-closed." I'm just not convinced hitting an inferior bat and a 52 core ball is the answer. Maybe I'm wrong, I've been wrong before. We played a tournament recently with senior bats and a terrible ball and it just wasn't softball or my interpretation of softball. Also, they were many guys I talked to that weekend who agreed with me. I don't know the answer but I know my preference. |
| July 22, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Leave It Go Pricer, maybe the 6-5 reference isn't accurate, your right. However when Lang says above "Let's be real At the SPA nationals last weekend in the 50 majors we were allowed 4 home runs and a walk. we had several games were neither team hit their limit.Plus i saw a lot of others that did the same and this was using the good bat/ball combo. What would it have been like if we were to play with a dead ball/bat combo?" Your answer is "Softball." If you think the a dead bat/ball combination is what softball is about you and I disagree. No big deal, we just have a different idea of what makes softball enjoyable. No need to start throwing rocks at each other. When you say "Your kinda telling us all what you really play the game for and it's not for your defense. JMO" I'll take that as a jab and really don't want to start that kind of communication on hear. You don't know me and I don't know you so cutting each other down isn't my game. |
| July 22, 2011 perly | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Leave It Go Lang, is this the Lang from Pensacola? Don't see you on this board very often but you should chime in more often. Be prepared to get blasted because I know you like the good bat/ball combination. There are many guys on here who think a 6-5 softball game is better that a 25-24 game? These same guys refer to the good old days of softball. I don't know when or where a 6-5 softball game was considered anything but boring. When you played for Hickory Hammock, a team that won 5/6 ASA National Championships, how may games did you win with 6 runs? It's softball not baseball, two similar but extremely different games. Lang, good luck this weekend at the Eastern NSA. Perl Daddy |
| July 22, 2011 perly | Topic: Bats Discussion: What Do You Think mad dog the idea of a poll is to see if the majority really wants the current bat/ball combo or something else, maybe the 52 core ball. I agree with you, most will want the current bat/ball combo. However if we're wrong and the majority wants something else so be it. Poll about everything, 5 run innings, time limits, HR limits, screens or no screens, etc. Gear the game to what the majority of players want. Can't agree with polling only the pitchers. They are only 10% of the team. If a pitcher feels the position is to dangerous they shouldn't pitch. There are plenty of guys willing to take the risk. You are correct about shaving bats. There are shaved bats that will out perform any senior bat and it's easy to find a guy to take your stock bat and turn it into a lightning rod. |
| July 22, 2011 perly | Topic: Bats Discussion: What Do You Think Tater50 You've mentioned polling the players before but it seems nobody is listening. I suggest sending an email directly to the SSUSA with your ideas. I had questioned them on there tournement refund policy and they got back to me and were very professional. Polling all registered players and giving the majority what the want should be satisfactory to all. There are maybe 10-20 guys on this board and sometimes they act like they speak for everyone. Unlike you, I prefer the Senior Bats. However if the majority voted to use USSSA bats I would get me a USSSA bat and keep playing and must everybody else would do the same. |
