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, Nov. 29, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Which choice would Plus Champions take if Bumped like every other Division?

Tim does not care about the health of the plus program. He is only trying to weaken it because he is afraid he will have to play in it. And more importantly he is worried that if he is reclassified to Plus, he will have to GIVE runs rather than receive in all the local tournaments and play the Longhorns and East Bay straight up. It will be hard for him to continue his local tournament Dynasty Team. Which incidentally should be broken up anyway according to his logic.

, Nov. 19, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Would Plus ball participation improve if ......

It's obvious why he is obsessed. And why he gives faulty logic arguments to justify his behavior. He is playing on a Plus team in the major division. So he gives all kinds of reasons why he is not playing where he belongs...its called rationalization. Rumor has it he cost his team the World with an error just to avoid playing with the Big Boys. Weather or not he did it on purpose or the incredible weight of having to play where he wouldn't be the Top Dog made him tremble and freeze up is subject to speculation.
, Nov. 19, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Thoughts for the upcoming SSUSA Rules Committee meeting!

Tim suggests breaking Plus teams up when he asks why stop at Major when when moving teams up after winning a division. We've been down this road before with you young man. And you either aren't willing or don't seem able to grasp the concept of what is happening out there in the real world. Lower division teams are not being asked to "break up", they are being asked to "move up". There is nowhere to move up above Plus. I could go into your other faulty logic arguments here, but that may be too much info for you at one time. So for the time being lets see if you can grasp the concept above.
, Oct. 10, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: rumor has it

Tim,
Also in addition to Sommerville losing, Turn2 the other dynasty team lost as well. Can we expect to see an influx of teams into the 60 Plus category? Again, if your argument was valid at all that should happen. Whats great about this is we dont have to speculate anymore, we can actually see if your argument has any validity. Any bets? I didn't think so.
, Oct. 10, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: rumor has it

Tim,
Now that the dynasty team (Sommerville) has lost and you have proclaimed your love of playing the game for its pure enjoyment, I imagine you will have no problem moving up to Major Plus. Especially because winning doesn't matter to you. Also, if your theory about Dynasty teams holds true, in addition to your team being enticed, there should be a bunch of teams clamoring to move up. Again, that is if your argument had any validity.
, Oct. 10, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: rumor has it

Jawood,
Just curious... Why is going 7 innings so important? Seems like you are reducing defense by artificially reducing the number of outs you have to record by making it 5 runs an inning.
, Oct. 1, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Mango,
Debating Tim will be a waste of your time. You will try to use logic with him. Tim has demonstrated that logic is a stranger to him. He still hasn't grasped how he contradicts himself with his “dynasty” argument. He states that dynasty teams are the reason teams don’t want to play plus. But when asked if he would play if the dynasty team was removed would he still play – his answer …no. And he doesn't get that defeats his argument.

, Sept. 29, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Tim,
I also noticed you ducked the question about the number of levels in each 5 year age group in NorCal ball. I'm guessing its less than 4. You say that NorCal ball is flourishing. Perhaps the answer is right in front of you. Maybe SSUSA should take a page from them and reduce the number of levels within each age group. You know combine major and major plus and make 3 levels. Or maybe just 2 groups-competitive and rec. In rec all homeruns would be an out and end the inning. How many levels are in NorCal ball?

Tim, I think you may be really on to something here. Yes, it must be the number of levels.
, Sept. 29, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Tim,
I can't give you a reason why YOU won't move up to Plus. I can only tell you that the dynasty teams are not the reason YOU won't move up. How do I know this? Because YOU said that YOU won't move up if the dynasty teams were removedREMOVED. So, do you see how you can't use that as an argument that's keeping you from Plus?

So perhaps you can tell us the real reason YOU won't move up. And don't use "the dynasty" argument, you've already proved that's a spurious argument.


, Sept. 29, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Tim,
We've been over this before. You claim its the dynasty teams that keep teams from moving up. But when asked if the dynasty team was removed would you move up to plus. Your response was no. So obviously its NOT the dynasty teams that are keeping YOU from moving up. I don't know how you cant see that this defeats your argument.
, Sept. 28, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Tim,
How many level, in each 5 year age group in NorCal softball? For instance in the 50-55 age group, when they have a tournament do they use 4 levels?
, Sept. 27, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Tim,
Just wondering. Now that you won the NorCal cup will you be breaking up your team for NorCal play next year? I mean wasn't it your idea that champions should be broken up? Perhaps you will lead by example. Give you a chance to earn some credibility.
, Sept. 26, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Tim,
Why you lack credibility. In July and August on your thread about “Why remove teams from a Division” I asked you several times, would you play major plus if the dynasty team was removed . And on August 1st your response is below in quotes-

"Now to your question.....I would do whatever our team voted to do.....my vote would be to stay local all year playing a schedule kinda like we did this year, and skip any Worlds.Tim MIllette"


Now that is why you lack credibility. It is NOT the Dynasty teams that are keeping you from playing. You don’t want to play the Longhorns or East Bay, or OKI or Demolition or Northwest Legends or any Major Plus teams. By your own admission. We've gone over this before. In the same thread you also claimed not to care about winning, and that you just play for fun. Again-lack of credibility. If you just played for fun you wouldn't care about playing Plus Teams and needing special rules (runs, extra players etc) to compete.

You will never be “enticed” up. The only way you will go is kicking and screaming and then probably not at all. So please-stop with the lame excuse that it’s the dynasty team. NO credibility.

, Sept. 25, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Hey Tim,
I like Jawood's idea too. How about all California teams give runs to non California teams . Maybe you could set an example and spot teams 5 next weekend since you have the advantage Jawood talks about. That is if you are really concerned about the growth of the upper division. So what do you say---are you going to walk the walk and give equalizers to non California teams?
Here's your chance to prove you really care about growth. Come on Tim what's your answer? This growth has to start somewhere, how about with you?
, Sept. 25, 2012
donll
Topic: Associations
Discussion: future of senior softball

Tim
Most softball growth is from the lower division up. Why aren’t you fixing the AA division? Trying to soften the landing for your eventual bump up.? We’ve been over this before. You already said if the plus champion were removed from the division YOU STILL WOULD NOT PLAY!!! I know it was only about a month ago when you were exposed. Do you think we forgot? You were told that you couldn’t use the “break up the dynasty” argument anymore and have credibility. You are a sandbagger plain and simple and afraid of playing the best. Just remember that whomever wins the 30 team major division really is only playing for 8th place/-Kind of like being the minor league champs of the world=who cares and who knows. Quit whining and step up man.

, Sept. 22, 2012
donll
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pick up a player

Taits and Jawood,
I'm not sure of the effect the out of region pick up has on the major plus division, since this is the first year they have had the rule, and they haven't played the World Series yet. I guess Vegas might give some insight to that.

I would however, argue to let Major teams pick up out of region players (although some would argue they can already do this through the snowbird rule). This would make them stronger and enhance the possibility of them making the move to major plus.

Also, I saw that the Coors team out of Illinois is playing in the 50 major world series. I thought they won that a couple of years ago. Did they ever play in the Major Plus World series after that?
, Aug. 2, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Why remove teams from a Division?

Swing,
Your reasons are good but actually, a couple of your reasons are the same- like 1 & 5. 1) so few teams 5) more teams. These are the same thing. Also reasons 3 & 4 are really the same things under the fear category. Travel is the same because you would still go to the worlds. Most plus teams play most of their games locally. And as far as reason #6 breaking up your team to compete - adding a couple key players is less disruptive to the whole team that getting rid of half your team when you try to play down again.

I did think of one more reason- the equalizer- having to give runs instead of getting them in your local tournaments. But again that's based in the fear "we can't compete" category.

But I'm still waiting for Tim to give an answer without contradicting himself.
, Aug. 2, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Why remove teams from a Division?

Tim Asks- "Maybe you can tell us why teams are not migrating up to Plus ball.....since you believe I am wrong about the Dynasty's being left intact year after year as the major Plus problem."

Answer- Only you might know why you and your team would not move up to the plus division if the dynasty team was removed. But the fact that you said you wouldn't play up given the dynasty team being removed means you cant keep playing your "dynasty theory" tape over and over again. It's not credible even to you.

So, why don't YOU tell us truthfully why you wouldn't move up and remember you can't play the dynasty card.

Your question has already been answered in another post. Possible answers- 1)fear that you can't win, (even though you are only playing for fun) and 2)lack of teams. But those are only guesses since I've never been on a team that broke up to avoid moving up a level. So you would be better qualified to answer the question but remember.....no using the dynasty teams are ruining softball argument since YOU'VE PROVED that's not what is keeping you from moving up.
, Aug. 2, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Why remove teams from a Division?

Tim,
When asked if the dynasty team was moved would you play plus against Longhorns , East Bay, OKI and others and you said "NO, you would just play local and avoid the worlds where you may have to play those teams". You've been screaming about the dynasty teams as the reason teams won't play plus -Even you know that's not the reason. You don't want to play any of the plus teams. Do you pay attention to what you sayand see how you contradict yourself? You really have no basis for the "dynasty keeps me from playing" argument, when even you say you wouldn't play if they were moved. You can't make the dynasty argument anymore.

And if you really play softball "just for fun " as you claim then why should you care who wins the tournament? I mean isn't that why you say you can't play plus-because you wouldn't have as good a chance as other existing plus teams? You shouldn't care if the Longhorns were in the same tournament as you. Do you see how you contradict everything you've been saying?
, Aug. 1, 2012
donll
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Why remove teams from a Division?

Tim,
So let me get this straight. If you remove the dynasty team you still wouldn't play in the major plus tournament-just play your local schedule and skip the worlds. Hmmm????? That sort of sounds counter to your argument that its the dynasty teams that are keeping teams from moving up. You've been screaming forever that the way to make it more "enticing" to major teams to move up is remove the dynasty team-yet even when given that you would not move up? It kinda makes you sound like even you don't believe your argument. How do you expect anyone else to take your argument seriously?
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