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March 26, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: safety bag

grayhitter59 ... In response to your statement and questions ...

[•] Whether or not the ball leaves the infield is irrelevant;
[1] Yes, IF there is a play at first ... Batter-runner, Defender and Ball in the mix at or about the same time constitutes "a play" at first;
[2] Whichever umpire has the best look at it ... NOTE: The batter is only obligated to touch a portion of the red bag ... If his foot hits the "centerline" (both bags at once), he's good ... There is NO prohibition against touching the white bag so long as he also touches the red bag simultaneously;
[3] Automatic (non-appeal) call;
[4] Same as [2] above: Whichever umpire has the best look at it; and
[5] Probably, unless the play has the 1B or P fielding it and heading to the bag unassisted, in which the rule may apply ...

This is very clearly covered in Rulebook §8.4(1) • BATTER-RUNNER REACHING FIRST BASE on page 46 ...


March 24, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: legal players

bucs15 ... Over the past couple of years, there have been some modifications in the "States and Bordering States" rules that affect some areas of the US and Canada ... Generally, several of the lesser populated states in the Northeast were "merged" to ease some of the roster composition issues ... We also "merged" provinces in Canada on an East/West basis for the same reason ... For specifics, please see §13.1(3) • TEAM REGIONS OF SSWC on pages 63-64 of the Official SSUSA Rulebook ... The residency rules remain the same regarding "snowbirds" and "out of region" exceptions for Major+ teams aged 40+ through 70+ ... Hope this helps ...


March 23, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SPRING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 2018 • DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets

HUNTER PARK SESSION #2 REVISIONS • Due to the unexpected late (Thursday night/Friday morning) withdrawal of a 50-Major team (Top Gun 50's), changes were required affecting that division and the 60/65-Platinum at Hunter Park, as follows:

• 60/65-PLATINUM • New game times and field assignments for Saturday afternoon Bracket games #8 and #11 ...
• 50/55-PLATINUM • Revised seeding game schedule to cover the games that would otherwise forfeit from the withdrawal, addition of two final seeding games on Saturday morning and revision from a 5-team 3GG to a 4-team DE bracket ...

Changes are online now ...


March 22, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Dead ball ground rule double situation.

This case should probably let common sense (which isn't all that common) prevail! ... Your hypothetical states that the umpire ruled a "dead ball ground rule double" ... As such, the umpire has already awarded second base to the batter and we see no logical reason to impose an additional requirement compelling the batter to also trot out to second before doing a U-turn and heading back to the dugout ...
March 20, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: runner scoring

smitty63 ... Yes, there is a difference in the requirement for the batter-runner to advance to 1st base, by rule as you stated ... It's probably not much of a factor, as your hypothetical also says that all of the runners then on base did advance one base, so one would be the maximum number of outs to be made and the winning run would score, IF the batter-runner had legally acquired 1st base ... He did NOT, and this is not an appeal play ... It's a bit of a quirky rule, but the correct umpire ruling should have been: "..Batter-runner is out, dead ball and all runners return to the base occupied at the start of the play.." ... You should have still had the bases loaded with one out ... Play ball ...


March 20, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: To SSUSA

tugboat ... We have no record of you calling and/or leaving an identifiable voice-mail message recently ... But doing a bit of digging, it appears you may be in or near Gaithersburg, MD, in the Eastern time zone ... We are Western time, three hours behind you ... Please call back between 11:00 am and 8:00 pm YOUR time (Monday-Friday) for the best shot at reaching us efficiently ... We suspect, as a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess), this may be in regards to the Omega / Pill & Pill rating index disparity ... Are we close to having that identified correctly as your issue? ...


March 18, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SPRING NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS 2018 • DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets

DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets for the SSUSA's 2018 Spring National Championships in Polk County, FL, have been posted and are available from the links below and on the event's Tournament page ... As always, these DRAFT schedules are TENTATIVE, are subject to change and become final ONLY when released as "OFFICIAL" at the Manager's meeting before play commences ...

NOTE: Managers who do NOT attend the Manager meeting will be presumed to be fully informed on ALL matters (such as schedule changes, tourney formats and rules issues) discussed at the meeting. Tournament rosters are “frozen” as of the Manager’s Meeting. NO on-site player additions are allowed, as all roster changes were previously approved through the Sacramento home office ... Managers who do not attend the Manager Meeting, and do not send a representative, will be prohibited from beginning tournament play before check-in with Field Director.

The Participating Teams List and Master Games & Fields Grid have also been posted ... Good luck to all! ...

DRAFT Game Schedules & Brackets (PDF's)

• Men's: 40's, 50's & 55's (M/AAA) | 55-M+, 60's & 65-M+ | 65's (M/AAA) & 70's

• Complete: All Ages & Divisions [15 pages]

Tournament Administration (PDF's)

• Master Fields Schedule: Master Games & Fields Grid
• Participating Teams List: Spring National's 2018


March 15, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: moving up

We may not understand your question "..Why is a player not allowed to continue to play on a team that he played with in his own age group, when that team did not move up??.." ... By "did not move up", do you mean [1] in age or [2] in rating or [3] both? ... You can always play younger if your team stays in the younger group ... You complicate things if you are playing on multiple teams with potentially different ratings and/or ages ... Is that the case? ...

Regardless, the rating history of the team(s) you play with defines your eligibility for other teams ... So, NOPE, our statement that SSUSA does NOT rate individual players remains accurate ... Our only logical conclusion based on what you have typed is that you would rather play down in rating, despite your history ... You are always welcome to call the Sacramento Home Office at (916) 326.5303 and ask for one of the eligibility specialists ... Be prepared to discuss this circumstance as to the actual player (you) and the team(s) involved ... They won't be able to help you on an anonymous basis ... Good luck!


March 15, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: moving up

tugboat ... Here's our view on your fundamental question, an answer that is certainly accurate, but not likely what you are hoping to see ... Also, to get this up front, we differ somewhat on the concept of you being "forced" to do anything ... Your team appears to have earned the privilege of playing at a higher rating level based on the team's performance over time ... The choice is solely yours as to whether you wish to continue playing with them at that level, or seek an apparently lower level you would prefer, initially as one of the three allowable "out of rating" players on that new-to-you team ... You take your former team's rating history experience with you for two years ...

REMEMBER: SSUSA does NOT rate individual players, never has ... We simply maintain historical data on the ratings of the team(s) you play with and their rating(s) when you do ... Softball is a team sport and the rating fortunes of the teams, and therefore, its players, rise and fall collectively, not individually ... This concept is to protect the LOWER rated teams in the competitive environment ... You have total freedom of choice to affiliate with any team for which you are otherwise eligible as to residency and your team rating experience history ... Respectfully, your reluctance to move up to continue playing with your current team does not constitute SSUSA forcing you to do so ... Good luck!


March 12, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Need clarification

cyborg ... The Major+ "out of region" provisions apply only to Men's Major+ teams in the 40-Masters through 70+ age Divisions ... The 75+ Division already has the East/West of the Mississippi River roster composition criteria ... You may not play "across the River" at age 75, and may not do so as a 70+ player wishing to join any team, 70+ OR 75+ unless your state borders the Mississippi River ... Florida does not ...


March 7, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SPRING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 2018 • DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets

MINOR REVISION • 70+ DIVISION @ THE CANYONS • There was one late entrant today (Top Gun Patriots - CA) in the 70-Major Division ... This required changes (Rev. date: 03/07/2018) to the seeding and brackets in that division and one nominal game field change on Tuesday in the Men's 70-Silver seeding ... All changes are online (but you may have to refresh your download file) ... Good luck!


March 6, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SPRING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 2018 • DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets

DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets for the SSUSA's Spring World Championships in Mesquite, NV, and St. George, UT, have been posted and are available from the links below and on the event's Tournament page ... As always, these DRAFT schedules are TENTATIVE, are subject to change and become final ONLY when released as "OFFICIAL" at the Manager's meeting before play commences ...

NOTE: Managers who do NOT attend the Manager meeting will be presumed to be fully informed on ALL matters (such as schedule changes, tourney formats and rules issues) discussed at the meeting. Tournament rosters are “frozen” as of the Manager’s Meeting. NO on-site player additions are allowed, as all roster changes were previously approved through the Sacramento home office ... Managers who do not attend the Manager Meeting, and do not send a representative, will be prohibited from beginning tournament play before check-in with Field Director.

TIME ZONE NOTE: The Canyons Complex in St. George is on MOUNTAIN TIME and Hunter Park and Pioneer Park in Mesquite are on PACIFIC TIME ... All schedules and brackets are stated to LOCAL TIME at the facility (just like airline schedules!) ... HINT: Trust your cell phone for accurate time where you are!

The Participating Teams List and Master Games & Fields Grid have also been posted ... Good luck to all! ...

DRAFT Game Schedules & Brackets (PDF's)

• Men's: 50's | 55's | 60's | 65's | 70's | 75's and 80's

• Complete: All Ages & Divisions [Large file: 31 pages]

Tournament Administration (PDF's)

• Master Fields Schedule: Master Games & Fields Grid
• Participating Teams List: Spring World's 2018


March 6, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: TOC determinations

To answer your two questions: [1] The T.O.C. qualifier events are the major regional championships administered directly by the Sacramento Home Office of SSUSA ... They also include the Eastern & Western National Championships and the LVSSA/SSUSA World Masters Championships, but not the T.O.C. itself ... [2] Until any metropolitan area (or entity) other than El Paso expresses an interest in hosting the Texas State Championships, the alternatives will be limited, or non-existent ...


March 4, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Are you serious.

grayhitter59 ... Difficult to say as we understand your situation, but it probably wouldn't have played out that way because we wouldn't have had a Miken rep. on site testing a ComBat ... We would have followed the testing procedure we also described above, and would not have been surprised at all if the bat came back "clean" ... We mentioned it above in another post in this thread ...

"..And, yes, a properly broken in bat may sometimes not be in technical compliance with the tester, which is why we send the bat out for an expert's look.."

When a "clean", well-broken in bat gets significantly "out of range" in testing, that's a strong indicator it's probably nearing the end of its functional life ... Which you pretty much confirmed when the bat cracked 10 swings later ... We don't just jump to any hasty conclusions, well, except the one time in Las Vegas where the cap popped off a bat and three tennis balls rolled out of the very-thin barrel! ...


March 4, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Are you serious.

Huh?? ... NO OPINION ever expressed by us until the manufacturer's inspection report is received ... We published the "no problem with the bat" finding last time to counter those who, with 1% knowledge and 99% speculation, rushed to the unfair conclusion that the bat was altered ... It wasn't ...
March 3, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SPRING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 2018 • TENTATIVE Field Assignments

REVISED TENTATIVE Field Assignments for the 2018 SSUSA Spring World Championships in Mesquite, NV, and St. George, UT ... REMINDER: TENTATIVE means they are NOT FINAL and are SUBJECT TO CHANGE. Final Field Assignments will be released simultaneous with the publication of the DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets shortly ...

FACILITIES
• Hunter Park (Mesquite, NV)
• Pioneer Park (Mesquite, NV)
• The Canyons Complex (St. George, UT)

NOTE: changes were made to balance facility loads and to minimize play at the larger field at Hunter Park, where temporary fencing is not permitted on the artificial turf ... Changes and assignments for the "singleton" teams are as follows:
__________

SESSION #1 • Men's 65+, 70+, 75+ and 80+ Divisions • March 20-22, 2018

• Men's 70-AAA • The Canyons Complex
• Men's 70-AA • The Canyons Complex

• Men's 75+ Division (All) • Pioneer Park (NOTE: 75-AAA ONLY at Hunter Park on THURSDAY)

SESSION #2 • Men's 40+, 50+, 55+ and 60+ Divisions • March 23-25, 2018
• Men's 50-Major+ (West Coast Water) • Hunter Park

• Men's 55-Major+ (CornerStone) • Hunter Park
• Men's 55-AAA • The Canyons Complex

• Men's 60-Major+ (Reloaded) • The Canyons Complex

SESSION #3 • Men's 40+ Masters • March 24-25, 2018
• Men's 40+ Masters Division (All) • CANCELED


March 3, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Are you serious.

• SilverGhost ... Although applying a foreign substance to the bat is technically illegal per Rulebook §3.4(4), we'd probably let that slide (pun intended) because there would be serious questions about the intelligence of the person making that decision as a performance enhancement! [grins]

• grayhitter59 ... As we understand the process, the manufacturer will test the bat externally and may also professionally remove the cap for internal inspection and measurements, which will resolve almost all of the alteration questions ... Cutting the bat is very rarely required ... If all is good, they will re-apply the cap, send the bat back to us and we will forward it on to the player ... This was exactly what happened as the result of the most recent bat challenge in an SSUSA event ... We also published the "no problem with the bat" verdict on the bat for the owner's reputation benefit ...

• HJ ... We're not sure we agree, without some sort of substantiation on your part that ".. shaving, rolling etc. is rampant in senior softball.." is accurate, and if so, to what degree ... But as to your question that follows your stated opinion, we believe that altering a bat is done solely to gain an unfair performance advantage, and therefore, the answer is probably "yes", regardless of the sanctioning association (ASA) or the bat/ball combination (52/300) in play ...


March 1, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Are you serious.

southerinman and lb16 ... If a bat fails initial field inspection, we will ask the owner to voluntarily surrender the bat to us for further testing by the manufacturer (see NOTE on page 16 of the Rule Book and the immediately following §3.4(6) and 3.4(7) on pages 16-18) ... The penalties for refusing to voluntarily surrender the bat are detailed ... Also, the results of that manufacturer testing will be the basis for either returning the bat or imposing sanctions if it turns out to be altered ... And, yes, a properly broken in bat may sometimes not be in technical compliance with the tester, which is why we send the bat out for an expert's look ...


March 1, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rating question

ballplyer19 ... Nope, SSUSA does NOT rate players ... But we DO keep each player's historical data on the teams he play(ed) with and those team's ratings at the time you did so ... It would be an impossible task to subjectively rate each individual player, but not too difficult to track their team(s) rating histories ...
Feb. 28, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rating question

titanhd ... Yes, we believe all SSUSA originated end-of-year rating changes have been made, and that temporary changes for the T.O.C. have been restated to actual ... However, there are several potential team-originated changes hanging out there ... Those involve teams building rosters for the upcoming Spring World's and Spring National's that just "have to have" their fourth (or more) "out of rating" player(s) ... That's purely a team decision, and not ours! ...


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