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Feb. 27, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rating question

BallPlayer35 ... SAME ADVICE AS ABOVE: There are a lot of variables in your hypothetical situation ... Rather than confuse the matter here, please call the SSUSA Home Office at (916) 326.5303 during normal business hours (Pacific time) and talk with one of the eligibility specialists ... Be prepared to discuss the specific team(s) involved, and they should get you up to speed quickly on your options ... Good luck!
Feb. 27, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ROCK 'N RENO CHALLENGE CUP 2018 • TENTATIVE Field Assignments

The following are the TENTATIVE Field Assignments for the 2018 Rock 'n Reno Challenge Cup. Please note that TENTATIVE means they are NOT FINAL and are SUBJECT TO CHANGE. Final Field Assignments will be released simultaneous with the publication of the DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets in mid-May.

NOTE:
The Reno/Sparks facilities are:
• Golden Eagle Regional Park (Sparks)
• Shadow Mountain Softball Complex (Sparks)
• Reno Softball Complex at Rancho San Rafael (Reno)

The Carson City facility is:
• Centennial Park Softball Complex

SESSION #1 • Men's 40-Masters, Men's 60's and All Women's Ages/Divisions
• ALL Ages and Divisions will play at the Reno/Sparks Facilities from Friday, May 25th thru Sunday, May 27th.

MEMORIAL DAY • NO games scheduled on Monday, May 28th

SESSION #2 • Men's 65's, 70's, 75's and 80's
• ALL Ages and Divisions will play at the Reno/Sparks Facilities from Tuesday, May 29th thru Thursday, May 31st.

SESSION #3 • Men's 50's and 55's
• Session #3 runs from Friday, June 1st thru Sunday, June 3rd.

• Men's 50-Major Plus - Centennial Park (Carson City)
• Men's 50-Major - Centennial Park (Carson City)
• Men's 50-AAA - Centennial Park (Carson City)
• Men's 50-AA - TBD (depending on number of entries)
• Men's 55-Major Plus - Golden Eagle Regional Park (Sparks)
• Men's 55-Major - Golden Eagle Regional Park (Sparks)
• Men's 55-AAA - Golden Eagle Regional Park (Sparks)
• Men's 55-AA - TBD (depending on number of entries)


Feb. 27, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SPRING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 2018 • TENTATIVE Field Assignments

The following are the TENTATIVE Field Assignments for the 2018 SSUSA Spring World Championships in Mesquite, NV, and St. George, UT ... Please note that TENTATIVE means they are NOT FINAL and are SUBJECT TO CHANGE. Final Field Assignments will be released simultaneous with the publication of the DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets shortly ...

FACILITIES
• Hunter Park (Mesquite, NV)
• Pioneer Park (Mesquite, NV)
• The Canyons Complex (St. George, UT)

NOTE: Some "singleton" teams (noted) currently show as TBA, pending their decisions on which division they wish to compete in ... We will update those assignments as they become known ...
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SESSION #1 • Men's 65+, 70+, 75+ and 80+ Divisions • March 20-22, 2018
• Men's 65-Major+ (Arizona Ancient) • The Canyons Complex
• Men's 65-Major • The Canyons Complex
• Men's 65-AAA • Hunter Park
• Men's 65-AA • Hunter Park

• Men's 70-Major+ • The Canyons Complex
• Men's 70-Major • The Canyons Complex
• Men's 70-AAA • Hunter Park
• Men's 70-AA • Hunter Park

• Men's 75+ Division (All) • Pioneer Park
• Men's 80+ Division (All) • Pioneer Park

SESSION #2 • Men's 40+, 50+, 55+ and 60+ Divisions • March 23-25, 2018
• Men's 50-Major+ (West Coast Water) • TBA
• Men's 50-Major • Hunter Park
• Men's 50-AAA • Pioneer Park

• Men's 55-Major+ (CornerStone) • TBA
• Men's 55-Major • The Canyons Complex
• Men's 55-AAA • Pioneer Park

• Men's 60-Major+ (Reloaded) • TBA
• Men's 65-Major+ (Timberworks/Adidas) • Hunter Park
• Men's 60-Major • Hunter Park
• Men's 60-AAA • The Canyons Complex
• Men's 60-AA • The Canyons Complex

SESSION #3 • Men's 40+ Masters • March 24-25, 2018
• Men's 40+ Masters Division (All) • Hunter Park


Feb. 26, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rating question

ballplyer19 ... There are a lot of variables in your hypothetical situation ... Rather than confuse the matter here, please call the SSUSA Home Office at (916) 326.5303 during normal business hours (Pacific time) and talk with one of the eligibility specialists ... Be prepared to discuss the specific team(s) involved, and they should get you up to speed quickly on your options ... Good luck!
Feb. 20, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ratings

BallPlayer35 ... We normally don't discuss individual team rating decisions publicly, but in answer to your specific question: Enviro-Vac Marauders played Arizona Ancient three times (all in bracket play) during the Winter World Championships in Phoenix last November ...

Winners' Bracket Final • AZ Ancient (15) / Enviro-Vac (11)
Championship Game #1 • Enviro-Vac (16) / AZ Ancient (9)
"If" Game • AZ Ancient (29) / Enviro-Vac (19)


Feb. 19, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: vegas

bringiton ... Your question is somewhat vague, but assuming you are asking for a ruling(s) on those particular fact patterns, in SSUSA sanctioned play ...

• The coach physically holding up the base runner rounding third is declared out at the conclusion of the play ... Holding the runner will (and should) be considered "assisting" him by preventing him from advancing into what the coach believed would ultimately be a put-out .. The base runner must stop and retreat to third base on his own without physical intervention by the coach ... The delayed dead ball umpire mechanic is mentioned in the rule below, but this remains a live ball for the remainder of the play ...

§9.2 • THE BALL IS IN PLAY

V. When, in the umpire’s judgment, a coach touches and physically assists a runner. EFFECT: A delayed dead ball signal will be given and play shall continue. The touched and assisted runner shall be ruled out and all other subsequent play will be ruled upon accordingly.
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• There is NO rule in the SSUSA Rule Book prohibiting a batter-runner from carrying his bat with him to first base, or beyond ... A batter may carry his bat to first base (why he would want to slow himself down is the real mystery) and would probably not be declared out for carrying it, unless the umpire felt the bat had somehow interfered with a fielder ... Some other softball associations may have a differing rule, but this is not a rule violation in SSUSA play ...


Feb. 19, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SPRING WORLD'S FIELDS INQUIRY POST

Original post was inadvertently deleted! ... Here's the response ...

FIELDS: The TENTATIVE Field Assignments will be released shortly after the entry deadline of February 27th ... HOTEL NOTE: SSUSA was unable to make economically acceptable host hotel arrangements with any St. George hotels ... Their proposed nightly rates were approximately double the rates available in Mesquite ... MANAGER MEETINGS: The manager check-in and meeting will be at the CasaBlanca Hotel in Mesquite the evening before play begins for each session ... Manager check-in from 6:00-7:00 PM and the meeting at 7:00 PM (all times Pacific time zone) .. For 40-Masters Men/Women and Senior Women 50+, your check-in and meeting will be before your first game on Saturday ...


Feb. 18, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: TOC LAST WEEKEND

Thanks for attending and here are a few quick response items ...

USMC21 and BK28 ...
• We did the free shirt giveaway for 11 years and thought a classy medal might be a nice change of pace ... Maybe not so much so, even though we did hear favorable comments about getting the medal! ...
• The Ms. Senior USA/Universe and the Louisville Slugger Warrior presentations were designed for some diversity of content at the TOC Champions' Banquet ... We have been affiliated with both entities for a while ...

TexasTransplant and TommyPalmer1210 ...
• Honoring the teams participating is important to us ... Up until a couple of years ago, we had a "Parade of Champions" across the stage, where each manager was introduced and a commemorative picture with Terry and Fran was taken ... We changed to the current time-saving format of an introduction and allowing a few seconds for the team to stand and be recognized ... We don't envision that being eliminated ..
• The Champions' Banquet served over 1,500 free meals in a first-rate, sit-down, plated format ... It's certainly not a required attendance function, so if a couple of things we do aren't what you desire, you're not under any economic detriment or obligation to attend (although we hope you do!) ...

magsdad ...
• We previously gave you a comprehensive explanation of your "issue" in the separate thread you started ... Have you contacted our office to add your name/size/quantity to a potential re-order? ...


Feb. 18, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: T.O.C

deep14 and Jon44 ... Just a couple of quick points here ...

• The TOC is under a mutually beneficial long-term sponsorship contract with Central Florida Sports Marketing to be held annually in Polk County, FL, during the 1st half of February ... Moving it around the country is not financially or logistically feasible while maintaining the unique character of the event and extra free festivities offered ...

• The facilities are probably average in comparison with other multi-venue areas of the country ... But this year, they were still showing the adverse effects of severe hurricane damage ... Recovery from those effects are prioritized by the governments doing the work, and we presume that softball complexes aren't at the top of the list ... We are both confident and hopeful that next year the venues will be "healthier" ...

Thanks for attending!


Feb. 3, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1-1 or 0-0 Count

desertlady ... That ship sailed about a month ago for the 2018 Season ... As a currently registered SSUSA player, with a presumably valid email address in your player record, you DID receive an invitation to participate in the member preference survey ...

Regardless, the 2018 changes made to go to the "1-1" count, with a courtesy foul, were ONLY for the SSUSA women's 50+ senior division and the irrelevant to you men's 50+ thru 60+ divisions ... We have no input (nor should we) over what tournament promoters for other association may elect to use for their event rules ... Peruse some of the few hundred posts on this topic over the past 60 days or so to get up to speed if you choose to comment officially (email or snail-mail, only, as Message Board commentary is specifically ignored) for the November 2018 National Rules Committee sessions in Las Vegas ...


Feb. 2, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Heart of Texas & State Tournament El Paso

CRASH • Not-so-instant replay for you ... Here are this year's answers .....

[1] Yes;
[2] Yes he is, but he had nothing to do with your Texas State Championships inquiry;
[3] You can't; and
[4] El Paso was the only Texas metropolitan area that expressed a desire to host the Texas State Championships for 2018 ...

See you here again next year?


Feb. 2, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Roster Rules for Older Player Also Playing in Younger Age Group

After the second time he plays down to 65-AAA, he will then become an "out of rating" roster spot on the 70-AAA team ... NOTE: Simply being "on the roster" is not considered in that count ... He gets one "freebie" per playing season ...
Feb. 1, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Team rating drop change player rating

SSUSA does NOT rate players, we simply track the rating of the teams they play with, at the time(s) they play with them ... In the circumstance you described, the players' experience team rating histories will be automatically adjusted to that of the team ... AAA ...
Jan. 31, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Forfeit or not?

Unless, of course, you put up another dozen or so runs in the remainder of that inning since you put up 17 and only made one out ... And then there's the question of how many Vios might have gotten if they batted (they only scored two runs after the 4th, so them shutting you down and then scoring three touchdowns to come from 21 down to tie is unlikely) ... All of those "what if's" are uncertain and speculative ... But what IS certain, is that you put up 32 ... It's an unrealistic manipulation of the data to act like you didn't really score them ... The rating system is not perfect, but what you are seeking is inconsistent with both fairness and sound decision making ... Lastly, and since you mentioned it, Bostonian 70's rating will also change to 70-Major immediately after the T.O.C. (because they won their bid at AAA), so you will get to play them straight up in the future ...


Jan. 30, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Forfeit or not?

Willy8 ... We have looked at both the actual game card and the corresponding entry in the SSUSA Ratings Scoring Database ... Yes, your team was credited with a 32-11 win in that game, and NOT a 7-0 forfeit score ... The game card also supports your version of the score at the end of the 6th, 15-11 in your favor, and shows you getting 17 more in the top, and Vios getting none in the bottom, of the 7th ... However, here are a few more relevant observations ...

• The score will remain in our scoring database as a 32-11 win because BOTH managers signed the game card with that score as the final, and NO mention that it was a forfeit appears on the card ... All managers are advised at EVERY Manager Meeting to carefully check and verify the score before signing it post-game ...
• You appear to believe that such a score may have had a detrimental effect on your team's performance data that resulted in you being raised to 70-Major in the most recent rating cycle ... But how would the 7-0 score you want not have the same detrimental effect on reality, just from the other side of the coin? ... We're actually pleased the managers signed the card as they did ... Otherwise this dominating win might have "fallen through the cracks" and not been properly considered ...
• You are correct that you won three games by a single run each in this tournament ... But you omit the inconvenient fact that your other two wins during your undefeated week were by ten runs each and that your run differential for the event was +44, for an average of +7.33 runs per game ... Those numbers are certainly in the realm that will get your rating a closer look ...


Jan. 30, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Forfeit or not?

Willy8 ... What age/division and the names of the teams involved? ...We'll look it up in the Ratings Database and let you know how it was handled ... Not enough information yet to make the inquiry ...
Jan. 29, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SSUSA's ORIGINAL TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS 2018 • DRAFT Game Schedules and Brackets

REVISION FOR LOYCE HARPE PARK • Due to the late withdrawal of Florida Automated Shade 55, revisions were required to restructure the event for the remaining eight teams in the 55/60-Platinum division ... The changes were limited to that group, and no other divisions were affected ... Revisions are online now ... Good luck!
Jan. 28, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: SSUSA RULES COMMITTEE 2017 • Annual Meeting Minutes

SUMMARY OF SIGNIFICANT RULES CHANGES • 2018 Season

The link below re-directs to the amended Rule Book provisions resulting from the actions of the National Rules Committee at the annual convention and their special telephone conference call meeting of January 9, 2018 ...

• Amended Rule Book Sections: National Rules Committee 2017


Jan. 27, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: offensive interference

Roco36 ... As B.J. inferred, it's tough to make a "paper ruling" not having seen the play unfold ... However, the (limited) facts you stated do not appear to indicate that there was interference ... The base runner was in the base line, and you weren't ... There was no base runner/defender contact ... The only remaining question is whether or not the base runner did anything else, such as stop or otherwise behave to confuse you, rather than proceeding, at whatever speed, toward third ... Again, it's a judgment call not subject to appeal ... Your ump either (unwittingly or brilliantly) made the proper non-call OR completely missed it! ... Who knows?


Jan. 26, 2018
SSUSA Staff
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: offensive interference

Roco36 ... Not necessarily! The first thing that must be judged by the ump is whether or not the fielder was interfered with. Then, if it is a batted ball, it makes no difference whether interference was intentional or not, the runner is out.

The runner must avoid a fielder attempting to field a BATTED ball, but if the fielder is not in the base path, the runner may continue to run in the base path. Simply running in the path in a straight line from base to base, without doing anything out of the ordinary, is not interference. Just because the ball may pass near or even through the runner's legs, does not constitute interference by the runner.

The runner must avoid the fielder, and the ball. Running in the path is not interference, in and of itself.

If the fielder is in the base path attempting to field a BATTED ball, or moves into the path to attempt to field it, the runner must avoid the fielder by running out of the path, and/or avoiding the fielder.

If the fielder is not in the base path, but the runner intentionally stops unnecessarily or takes actions that are, in the ump's judgment, intent to interfere, and interference does occur, then the runner is out.

It is not a good judgment to rule interference just because the play became difficult, simply because the runner and ball got close to one another.

What did your umpire rule/fail to rule?


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