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April 7, 2021
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Infield fly not called

Runners on first and second batter hits a pop up toward third base, 3B is camped under the ball, at the last second the SS yells out I got it, the SS bumps into 3B and the ball falls to the ground, the runners not hearing IF think they now have to run and started to advance, the 3B picked up the ball touched third and threw to second for a double play. After the play the umpire admitted he shouldíve called IF. and per the rule corrected his mistake

Hereís the question. Does the umpire return the runners and just call the batter out? What If both runners advanced safely to the next base do they get to stay there since IF is a live ball?
Nov. 19, 2020
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitting a pitch that bounces on the plate

sorry, I should have added if the ball hit the ground in front of strike mat I assume that the call is a dead ball, ball, even if the batter hit the ball on the bounce?
Nov. 19, 2020
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitting a pitch that bounces on the plate

the 2nd part of murrays question was not answered?

I assume that the call is a dead ball, ball, even if the batter hit the ball on the bounce?
March 13, 2020
1jonsey
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Corona Virus (COVID-19)

Someone please explain to me the reasoning of ssusa's decision on tournaments. Since I'm 67 it's not safe for me to play, but a 64 yr. old is good to go. How old were the NBA players who contractced it, that's right they were 23 & 27. I just donít understand their reasoning
Oct. 28, 2019
1jonsey
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Whatís the call?

I have a couple of questions, after reading what bj posted and nobody has answered. I have seen this play many times, an OF comes running in hard and slides corralling and catching the ball in his mid section, his glove never touches the ball. I would assume that if he then reached over and grabbed the ball this would be an out, even though he actually didn't use his bare hand or glove to make the catch or is it considered an illegal catch?

Also what would be some examples of an illegal catch and what if a fielder used his hat to snag a ball and then reached in and grabbed the ball to show control?
Oct. 4, 2019
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: is the runner out?

Tim, thank you
Oct. 3, 2019
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: is the runner out?

will a senior softball staff member please take the time to answer my OP of the questions below?

1) Is a runner out when hit with a batted ball that goes off the pitchers glove?

2) Where in the rule book does it tell me if he is out or if it's a live ball play on?

3) In the EXCEPTION if the runner is out as stated in a previous post how is this a live ball and how do you award the batter & runners bases on a live ball?







Sept. 27, 2019
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: is the runner out?

wayne, why would the runner have to return to 2b, the rule says it's a live ball. I also don't understand how the batter is awarded 1b on a live ball play either. In this scenario I thought awarded bases could only be given on a dead ball or delayed dead ball.

I went back and read Dave Dowel's post on 6/12. he posted with the exception that a runner struck while off base is out. That is not what X says in the rule book , he added that part on his own and I can't find it in the rule book.

below is what X says in the rule book,

EXCEPTION: A fair batted ball that deflects off the pitcherís glove remains a live ball. EFFECT: The batter is awarded first base and runners on base advance one base only if forced.

is there anyone on the senior softball staff that can answer if the runner is out, and if he is please tell me where it is in the rule book

Sept. 26, 2019
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: is the runner out?

thanx for responding, but I'm still not sure if the runner is out on my OP. I even went back and read the old posts from a similar question. Does anyone from the front office read these questions? Could you please cite the rule, so I can go back and show my guys the correct answer in the rule book.
Sept. 21, 2019
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: is the runner out?

Runner is on 2b, the batter hits a ground ball up the middle and it goes off the end of the pitchers glove and strikes the runner going to 3b. I know the rule says it is a live ball but where does it tell me if the runner is out or can he continue on to 3b.

I just read 8.2C and it says excluding the pitcher, It reads that the pitcher doesn't count as a fielder and that the runner is declared out and it's a dead ball.

Then under DEAD BALL I read 9.1X. When a fair batted ball strikes an umpire or base runner on fair ground before passing or touching an infielder, including the pitcher.

EXCEPTION: A fair batted ball that deflects off the pitcherís glove
remains a live ball. EFFECT: The batter is awarded first base and runners
on base advance one base only if forced.

I have a question.

In the exception part of the rule if the ball remains live why is the batter awarded 1b and runners on base advance one base only if forced. If it's a live ball doesn't that mean the play continues on?

Where does it tell me what happened to the runner who was hit by the ball?


Oct. 20, 2018
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Stepping out of the front of the box?

stick8 really, wow, i've played and watched a lot of softball and I don't think I have ever seen a batter have 1 foot off the gorund and in the air and then hit a softball
Oct. 19, 2018
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Stepping out of the front of the box?

so are you saying that you see batters hits a softball with 1 foot in the air?
Feb. 14, 2018
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: extra innings

if the game is tied after 7 innings aren't the extra innings open innings also
Aug. 11, 2017
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1st basemens mitt

HAT, yes that makes sense as long as there is not another 1st baseman stick8, there has to be some sort of penalty if he fields a ball using an illegal glove otherwise why would the umpire tell him to change it?
Aug. 11, 2017
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1st basemens mitt

I recently watched a game with a runner on 1st and 2 outs. The defense shifted drastically for a right handed dead pull hitter they moved the 1st baseman just to the SS side of 2nd base and put the 2b in short LF. The batter hit a deep fly ball for the 3rd out. My question is what would have been the call if the batter had hit a ground ball to the 1st baseman who was using a 1st basemens mitt and he caught it and got the 3rd out at 2nd base? I know if he officially changed positions he would need to change his glove and what is the penalty for using an illegal glove?
Nov. 14, 2016
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BATTERS BOX

Garocket, so are you saying that if he has 1 foot out of the box and 1 foot still in the box and he is in fair territory when the ball hit his foot he would be called out?
Nov. 14, 2016
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BATTERS BOX

The batter is in the box but he tops the ball out in front of home plate and as he is exiting it spins back and it hits him in the foot. When the ball made contact with him he had 1 foot completely out of the box and 1 foot still in the box. I know he would be called out if both feet were out of the box. What's the call?
Nov. 14, 2016
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BATTERS BOX

After hitting the ball, when is a runner considered to be out of the box? 1 foot completely out or both feet completely out?
June 6, 2016
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 2nd base RUN BY LINE

several years ago I played in the Fla. Senior Games and they used a rule for runners going into 2nd base to avoid collisions. If I remember correctly they used a "run by line" to the right of 2nd base and if a play was being made on the runner they had the option to either slide into 2nd base or run to the line, but if they went into the bag standing up and made any contact with the fielder they were called out for interfernece and the batter runner or runner closest to home was also called out. Does anyone have any info. as to where there would be a written version of the rule?
March 30, 2016
1jonsey
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: coaches touching a runner


had a runner round 3rd base and was held up by the base coach, as he was walking back to 3rd the coach tapped him on the shoulder and said nice hit, there was no play being made on him, the home plate umpire called him out for the coach "touching the runner" I'm confused in the wording. The umpire said he cant touch the runner at all, I argued the wording meant the coach cant touch him in assisting him back or forward, as in grab him or push him, but a pat on the back for a good hit was OK

I know the wording of the rule back in 2011/12 used to say when a coach touches "OR" physically assists a runner, then in 2012/13 it was changed to the rule below

2016 rule 9.2 V. When, in the umpireís judgment, a coach touches and physically assists a runner,

what is the intent of the rule??
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