https://www.vspdirect.com/softball/welcome?utm_source=softball&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=partner

 
SIGN IN:   Password     »Sign up

Message board   »Message Board home    »Sign-in or register to get started

Online now: 0 members ; 73 anonymous
Change topic:

Details for mck71


Real name:

Location:
,

Division:

Messages posted by mck71 »Message board home   »Start a new discussion

Nov. 24, 2022
mck71
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pinch Hitter

Thx BJ.

I was thinking that according to OP, the manager realized EXACTLY what k man described (in a panic), he wanted to substitute for the pitcher (possibly a weak hitter) and then realized he might lose both pitchers? So my question: Pitcher B is substituted for Pitcher A in top of 5th, bottom of 5th Hitter A bats for Pitcher B. Once that at bat is completed, can either Pitcher A or Pitcher B come back into the game legally? BEFORE the substitute at bat, I have a legal reentry of Pitcher A for Pitcher B but assume that once Hitter A completes his at bat Pitcher B can reenter but now Pitcher A is burned (i.e. and Pitcher B has to finish the game without another legal substitute, meaning if you have another player, than Pitcher B would also be burned if substituted again by Hitter A or another Player that hasn't been in the game yet)?
Nov. 22, 2022
mck71
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Feedback

Sadly B30, this will continue because of smaller tourney's low overhead. With 6 teams, 1 guy can organize and run the tourney and still make money (1 day, teams don't have to pay hotel fees, etc). They use better balls because they can (only need a few dozen or have teams "hit their own"). Utrip has been trying to figure out the Senior game for a while now but I believe small pockets of TD's are doing what you described above in CA and TX and now AZ. FL plays tourneys in the FHC I believe twice a month so none of this is "new", just most 40's probably came up playing USSSA because most other associations are not strong nationally (ASA/USA or NSA). So been wondering when these guys would really start going after the 40's because those guys work and are used to weekend tourneys (Sat/Sun) where they don't miss time, this is also something that most SSUSA or ISSA tourneys don't do much of if at all.

I know that Tim has made tremendous strides with the 40's program in Mid-Atlantic the past few years and would like to believe he has talked about this with Home Office. ISSA's 40's program is almost non-existent honestly, don't believe I have ever seen more the 4 teams at any recent tourneys even Smoky which is one of their biggest.

Great info and excellent points but realistically, not sure how much will change (and I love this game as well, def not a Utrip guy, ASA was still going pretty good when I was younger).

My 2 cents. Happy Thanksgiving to all and wishing you all a safe and happy holiday season!
Nov. 22, 2022
mck71
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pinch Hitter

DJ - OK, so good question and I assume someone with specific SSUSA rules can state the actual rule for you but my contribution based on my experience playing is that this is NOT Major League Baseball meaning that while it's very nice that the team announces things (batter, CR, and pinch hitters) but until either the batter steps into the box and takes a pitch, they can do whatever they want (same as a CR announced but only legal when they touch the bag for teammate they are running for).

Some teams are very organized and do this stuff without issue but we are old guys/gals playing and we aren't perfect which allows the stipulation to announce but changes can be made until they take a pitch or stand on a base.

And I don't believe there is a rule where a player that enters a game has to bat before being replaced.

I have been wrong before but if I was umpiring that would be my interpretation.
Nov. 22, 2022
mck71
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: seeding games

Johnny23 - USUALLY yes if said player has history with your team from past or IF said player plays with your team prior to 2023 WC. BEST answer is to call home office or send an email with said player and your question to Ratings person so you know for sure.

Good luck!
Nov. 2, 2022
mck71
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: ow to appeal a call

Understood. We are old men stuck in our old ways. LOL

Simply let the league know that rule has been changed and dead ball appeals are now verbal but have to be stated as explained above by BJ ("I would like to challenge that x runner left y base early"). Pretty simple and again, another rule that was changed to help speed the game along.
Nov. 1, 2022
mck71
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: ow to appeal a call

JB - old dead ball appeal methodology required the pitcher to be on the rubber and throw the ball to a player manning the base of appeal IF time had been called (i.e. dead ball appeal). As BJ explained above, that is no longer necessary. If time has been called and pitcher has the ball (or whomever), simply state to the umpire that you are appealing x runner leaving y base too early.

The process for live ball is still the same (i.e. before time is called), either tag runner explaining why you tagged them or throw to the base you believe they left early on explaining why. Hope that helped.
Sept. 16, 2022
mck71
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking to play with 60's team from New Jersey

Frank - He doesn't have to be, you are allowed to pick up 2 players from "non-touching" states as long as they are on the same side of Mississippi. What team are you playing for? Contact info would help.
Sept. 16, 2022
mck71
Topic: Product review
Discussion: The new Senior Baden ball.

SKings - I am sure your opinion and review might be spot on BUT based on my math (and using what data is on this website), there are 587 mens teams competing in Vegas, each team get 6 balls, that is 3,522 (or 293.5 doz or 49+ CASES). Trying to make sure all balls are equal seems to be the priority and getting that many was probably a little harder then what you had to get for your tourneys this year (seems you had multiple sources?) Maybe not, but that is just the balls that come with registration, not the additional cases needed for teams buying more (also if you play a 7th game, you get a new ball, this is part of SSUSA rules).

Bottom line, these balls will perform better in Vegas with heat but no humidity and thinner air, maybe not very good in hot FLA weather but I also read in another thread that the composite cover similar to Tattoo is coming as well so my assumption is that will make this ball better. This is just my 2 cents worth.

Wishing everyone in Vegas the best of luck, not playing this year but know a lot of people who are, enjoy and stay safe!


Sept. 9, 2022
mck71
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Pitcher Catcher 1st baseman

Dodgers - The NSA senior tourney in Columbia was canceled this weekend. I will add a comment on here if they reschedule it, heard it might be next week in Rock Hill.
Sept. 5, 2022
mck71
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Pitcher Catcher 1st baseman

Dodgers - Sadly there won't be a practice prior to this tourney Saturday. Most of us play in the same league and we get our swings there. A couple of us might try and hit this week but with the weather forecast, not going to be easy. The team I am playing on already has a pitcher (1) but he couldn't make it this weekend so they asked "the old guy" to help them out and I agreed. As this is an NSA tourney, there are a few steps that I had to take to be able to play, sadly I don't know enough of the NSA Senior rules to say "bring your stuff and we will find you a team to play on". My suggestion was to come if you had "nothing better to do" as there might be at least ten 50AA and 50AAA teams (total) there and you might be able to connect with one that either you like OR they need a player. Hope that makes sense. Good luck!
Sept. 1, 2022
mck71
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Pitcher Catcher 1st baseman

As the 2022 season is winding down, not a lot locally for us. SSUSA has Vegas (multiple dates Sept/Oct) and then Ft Meyers in Nov. ISSA has Va Beach and Myrtle Beach in Oct, Sanford, FL in Nov. There is an NSA tourney in West Columbia next weekend (Sat/Sun) that we are playing in, mostly 50 teams (I think there are 11 listed?). Looks like a couple of hrs away from you but if you weren't doing anything, worth taking a look at.

Another cool option is Softball Magazine runs a senior camp at the USSSA complex in Vero Beach, FL the weekend before Thanksgiving. Its a great place to try new senior bats (most manufacturers are repped there) and make connections. I have been there a few times, always enjoyed it.

Good luck!
Sept. 1, 2022
mck71
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Pitcher Catcher 1st baseman

Where is SC? There is an over 50 league outside of Charleston.
Aug. 4, 2022
mck71
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Am i wrong to think this way

All, I agree this is a silly thing that we are discussing, a 305' HR is not far enough, needs to be 400'?

Benji, I also agree that coming up with a number for compression testing sr bats won't be easy. I had "heard" a rumor that a pitcher had been hit in Eastern Nationals, bat was confiscated, cut open and plyer rec'd a 5 yr ban, I was ESTATIC! I called Tim and he confirmed the first 2 items were indeed correct but the bat was not cut open and was given back to the player at the end of the day.

Me personally, I pitch and anyone on my team knows if I get hit "unusually", please grab the bat and I am one of those guys that would be more than happy to pay the freight on this "cut/replace if not" theory you have described (fair or not, has to start somewhere, right?).

And before the huge debate starts, we know as pitchers mistakes happen, it IS part of the game is hitting middle and there is def a possibility of getting hit (most of us are simply mad because we all think we should CATCH a ball going over 100MPH 50 ft away! LOL) BUT I also can pretty much tell the different sound a "hot" stick makes or how fast the ball travels past me :-)

Finally, I agree with Tim, what does it say about a person who has to cheat to win? Simply stated, player lacks CHARACTER which is pretty sad but worse, it will continue until someone gets seriously hurt!

My apologies but can't remember who used to say this all the time on here: Senior Bats are STOOPID!

Good luck to all the rest of the season, play and stay safe!
Aug. 3, 2022
mck71
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Vegas Worlds

Mark, I believe SSUSA TRIES to move teams up and down based on the "body of work" when they do their bi-annual moves (June and Dec) but Vegas has ALWAYS had automatic bumps (winners and % based of total number of teams, you had 75 so I believe they bumped top 3 or 4?). I have to agree with Mike, I personally believe it's better to play well ("lightning in a bottle" as you stated) and move up then go 0 - 5 to stay in your happy place? It happened to us in 2015, won AAA in Vegas and then first tourney as a Major team in 2016 we went 0 - 5 but didn't get beat bad enough to warrant a request to get put back down in AAA. LOL

My suggestion is to play the year out and in December, if you are still struggling, then appeal and if you aren't playing well enough to actually compete, then I believe you will get your appeal accepted. Please make notes of the games you get beat where the other team only beat you by 1 run because that is all they needed to win (SSUSA uses aggregate runs for or against as PART of their determination of an appeal).

Bottom line, takes at least 10 guys (us was 12) to play and do well in Vegas. Not all 12 guys were the same level but without all 12 playing well (some above their normal play like Mike said) we don't win and I wouldn't give back my ring for all the 0 - 5 weekends from that day to this one (and we are still rated Major, we just just kept playing, added a few guys and got better).

Probably NOT the answer you were looking for but as much as I hate losing, no where near as much as I hate NOT PLAYING! :-)

Good luck!
July 11, 2022
mck71
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Midwest Championship seedings

Steve, possibly look at the message with the heading "Midwest Championships Session 1 results" a few posts below this one? I doubt you will get all the games scores but at least you will get top finishers until the game brackets get posted. Hope this helps.
July 11, 2022
mck71
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Syracuse Northeast

How about some results? Don't expect bracket sheets filled out but at least top 2 in each division, Tim does that and Donna did that below for Midwest. Thx in advance!
June 30, 2022
mck71
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player ranking

Mike - had to go back and read the email again but I BELIEVE this is NOT a new rule, what the email says is that it was NOT ENFORCED the past 2 yrs due to COVID and short staff (Dave or Tim will correct me if I am wrong).

So my belief is (and as stated by G), that say your team has 12 players, not all 12 are equal; some are better hitters, some are better fielders, some can run, some can't but all 12 were necessary to win the tournament. So player 12 (who doesn't even play the field on the weekend, maybe runs mostly?) is Major same and Player 1, is that fair, probably not but how else are they supposed to figure it out? In this case, I would do what Dave says ALL THE TIME, "Please call the Sacramento Home Office @ (916) 326.5303 between 9:00 AM and 4:00 PM PDT and ask to speak to an eligibility specialist" (thx Dave, easier to copy and paste! lol)

H Sq and bond - we have done that before, we just didn't have enough guys who were 55 so we picked up a few 50 yr olds (2) and played 50AAA the whole year! I believe skill wise we were pretty good but we didn't win 1 tourney that year but we also didn't get blown out either, guess it depends on the team?

Bottom line, it's THEIR rules so you have 2 choices; play by their rules or don't play (not trying to be a d#ck about it, I agree it isn't fair to everyone but it's what has been established before I started playing so I roll with it!)

Wishing everyone a happy 4th of July weekend!!!
June 29, 2022
mck71
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player ranking

I am confused G, what "new rules" are you referencing?

I believe SSUSA has used the same rules for a while now, they use the Rating Index as a team guide and IF you played at least 2 tournaments with the same team in a calendar year then you accept the Rating of that team, not complicated.

It does get a bit confusing when you CAN play down (50 - 40, 55 - 50, 60 - 55, etc) because the Rating Index changes. AAA in 40 is RI of 8, it's 7 in 50's, 6 in 55 and 5 in 60's. The easiest way I can remember it is you CAN'T PLAY DOWN 2 LEVELS from your HIGHEST Rating, pretty easy once you know what that is (call SSUSA Home Office during West Coast hrs and ask for your history). EX. if you are a 55M player, you are a RI of 7 so you can't play 60AAA at a RI of 5 or if you are a 60M player, RI of 6, you could still play at 65M but since that is a RI of 5, you would count as 1 or the 3 higher rated players allowed but you can't play 65AAA (RI of 4).

Hope this helps!
June 29, 2022
mck71
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player ranking

I believe you are looking for Dave or Tim to confirm Mike but yes, that is correct. Once you play "down" in 2 tournaments, you are accepting that teams rating for that year. 55AAA Rating Index is the same as 65M+ so to continue to play 55AAA, you would only be able to play on a 65M team as a chip or a 65M+ team but you would NOT be able to play 65AAA unless you stopped playing for the 55 team and stayed at the 65 age group (though Dave, Tim or call Home Office would have to confirm that IF you already played 2 tourneys this year at 55AAA, can you even play at 65AAA at any point until this "year" is completed (after Vegas))?
June 15, 2022
mck71
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: player ratings

That is correct CB unless you give up playing 40M as Dave alluded to above. Once you age up, you carry you personally carry the rating of the last team you played with so if you played 40Major, you are now a 50M player. IF you keep playing 40M while still playing 50M, yes you Rating Index of 9 (40M and 50M+) are the same and you CAN play 50M but count as 1 of the chips as you stated. Happened to me, was 55M, aged up to 60M. I was asked to play with a different 55M team and I did but luckily only 1 time and then simply stopped playing down for fear of not being able to play with my current team (luckily we did not have any other M+ players at the time). Understanding the nuances of the rules helps, took me a while and I am still learning! lol
Older messages »
Senior Softball-USA
Email: info@SeniorSoftball.com
Phone: (916) 326-5303
Fax: (916) 326-5304
9823 Old Winery Place, Suite 12
Sacramento, CA 95827
Senior Softball-USA is dedicated to informing and uniting the Senior Softball Players of America and the World. Senior Softball-USA sanctions tournaments and championships, registers players, writes the rulebook, publishes Senior Softball-USA News, hosts international softball tours and promotes Senior Softball throughout the world. More than 1.5 million men and women over 40 play Senior Softball in the United States today. »SSUSA History  »Privacy policy

Follow us on Facebook

Partners