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| Jan. 30, 2025 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Batting Box Rules; Front Foot Quicksilver, The only part of the Batters Box you can step out of is the FRONT Line towards the pitcher, AS LONG AS YOUR BACK FOOT IS EQUAL TO THE FRONT OF THE MAT OR WITHIN THE MAT. If you step out of the Box to the side, you will be called OUT. Try to stay away from the front of the MAT. It is an Umpires judgement call. Do not give Him/Her a chance to call you out. Have a GREAT Season |
| Jan. 20, 2025 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Bats Discussion: Rolled bats Gary & JohnO28, I'm all about playing fairly. In ASA (USA) and USSSA you do not get band. The only association that bands it's players is SSUSA. They really do not care if you are trying to be honest. They just want to catch players and make an example of them. I know of at least 6 players that have ordered the G4 SSL Bat Compression Tester from Bat Testing Solutions LLC that SSUSA is using. This way they can test players bats before they enter the complex. I'm thinking about it also. By trying to do the right thing, SSUSA does not want to hear it. Every player, Men and Women should receive 1-ONE-UNO warning. I do not want to use the word (CAUGHT) If a players bat fails and it is that players second failed test, there needs to be an independent testing site. Before the player is SUSPENDED, he should have the option at his cost to have the bat tested independently. If his Bat PASSES, he does not get suspended and SSUSA should reimburse said player. If the Bat is found to be altered "SAYONARA" player. In SSUSA's eyes, you are GUILTY until proven INNOCENT. After SSUSA sends your bat to be tested there is a good chance it will be cut open and examined. That means when or IF they return the bat to the player HE or SHE will not be able to get a second opinion. |
| Jan. 20, 2025 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Bats Discussion: Rolled bats lb16, do you realize that you just accused everyone who's bat that dropped below 140 is a CHEATER? You really need to do research on bats before you make such an asinine comment. Composite bats can break down on the inside without showing cracks on the outside. That makes the bat much softer and will not pass the compression test. You owe all the players you just insulted and accused of cheating an APOLOGY!! |
| Jan. 5, 2025 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Bats Discussion: Paint chips on bats In the past umpires have let us use bats with paint chips missing. Those bats are NOT ALTERED. Just the result of hitting the ball. BUT, It all depends on the Director and the Umpire. There is always that one umpire that will refuse to let you use them. Just in case, I would bring a bat without missing pint chips. But also if they do not allow you to use your bat, I would have it compression tested. If it passes, it's legal. That issue came up a couple times in Worlds last year. Umpire said it was illegal and the Director over ruled him. Good Luck |
| Dec. 31, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Bats Discussion: Bat Holder ET, from what I understand, those are illegal |
| Dec. 15, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please NATURELY |
| Dec. 15, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please Dbax.. Got it. Bats will get to hot MATURELY by the Sun. |
| Dec. 14, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please Dave, Why wait? Knowing what you are hearing from your members, knowing it is an unpopular move by SSUSA, WHY WAIT? You do know you are going to hear about this from players all year long. But if SSUSA changed it to allow 65 and up age groups to usa a solar warmer you probably won't hear a word. Merry Christmas |
| Dec. 14, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please Dave Dowell, Please do not close this thread. A lot of your members want to be heard |
| Dec. 14, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please Dave Dowell, Thank you, you just proved our point. A WARM BALL DOES NOT TRAVEL AS FAR AS A COLD/COOLER BALL. Nobody, I mean NOBODY was complaining about the use of a Bat Warmer. Why is it now an issue? |
| Dec. 14, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please Yankeesfan, I have a pair of NON HEATED Thermal socks (Just THICK SOCKS). I can use one just to keep my bat from getting colder and staying at a consistent temp. |
| Dec. 12, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please Dave, Not trying to be funny. But what is your definition of a BAT WARMER?? |
| Dec. 11, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Thanks Dave. A lot of us have always known the bat warmers were not legal. But we also know that that was ONE of the rules that's in the rule book that was NOT enforced. The assholes that used propane heaters wrecked it for everybody. They should be suspended for life. Thanks again Dave |
| Dec. 11, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Donna, Again your comment does not hold water. I looked up "Has ASA tested bats that have used Bat Warmers". I pasted this from the website. This what ASA says; These are quotes No, the ASA (now known as USA Softball) does not specifically test bats that have used a bat warmer; their certification process focuses solely on the bat's construction and performance characteristics, not external factors like warming devices. This is what it also says: Another quote (Many times you would see people using bat warmers when it was in the 70-80 degree range.) After testing, ASA decided to outlaw bat warmers. There is a misconception that bats break because the bat gets cold. Testing shows that it is the ball compression increasing and the ball getting "harder" causes the bats to break. When it says 70-80 degrees, that's outside before using a Bat Warmer. We as players already understand that if you use bat warmer at that temp it will get too soft to be legal. That's why we are just asking for Bar warmers be legal as long as it is under 70 degrees. They are talking about the Balls getting HARDER in the COLD. That's been our point from the beginning. ASA just VERIFIED it for us. Since you are saying it is based on ASA results and you are incorrect CHECKMATE |
| Dec. 11, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Dave... Can you please answer the question that I posted yesterday about using a THERMAL NON-HEATED SOCK or TOWEL? |
| Dec. 10, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Dave, I have question for you. When it is below 70 degrees. Can we put our bats in a non heated, just a regular Thermal Sock or wrap it in a Towel to try and keep it warm? I look forward to you response. |
| Dec. 10, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Thanks for the bantering Dave. To bad SSUSA and it's players can't work together to solve whatever the ongoing issue is. I do not hold a grudge and I have NO hard feelings. |
| Dec. 10, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers I love you Dave, But now you are being ridiculous. The Bat Manufactures tell you NOT TO USE YOUR BAT IN WEATHER UNDER 64 degrees. If you like, I will send you their recommendation. You are right, we do not know how much longer a bat will last using it in warm weather only. But we DO know a bat will BREAK faster if used in COLD weather. That is also what the Manufactures even say. NOBODY wants Rolled or Shaved to be legal, except the EGO Cheaters. I have integrity. I would never do either and I would not play with a teammate that does. Even though common sense tells you on the positive side, all rolling a bat does is break it in faster. On the Negative side, your bat wouldn't last very long and you will be buying another one. How many times have you seen a player tap two bats together? How many times have you seen a player tap their bat even slightly against a pole? I see it in EVERY Tournament that I play in. The problem is, now that bat becomes an Illegal Bat. By doing either of those two, you are altering the bat and not breaking it in NATURALLY. Yet NO UMPIRE has ever removed the bat from a game. WHY??? They probably think it's a ridiculous rule. I hope You and your Family have a Merry Christmas. |
| Dec. 10, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Dave... What about the Balls that are being ALTERED due to having to play in COLD WEATHER compared to playing in WARM Weather? Playing in COLD weather MIGHT be a minor change in the balls, but its enough to make a difference to be noticed by all players (Balls are HARDER). But yet, it seems SSUSA keeps saying Cold weather does not have an effect on the Balls. IF that is True, Why can't we put them in a COOLER? You are correct, Players/Hitters would be very upset if you reduced the Hardness of the Ball. As it is now, player/Hitters look forward to playing in COOLER Weather because the Cooler Ball travels Further and Quicker. BTW, You have already done that by no longer using the Rock and now using the Baden Fire. You asked about a PREFERENCE: Allow Bat Warmers in games that are started in under 70 degree weather, for 65 and up Divisions. Do NOT change to a worse Ball than we are already using. OR, Suggest a way to keep our bats from breaking. |
| Dec. 10, 2024 Mason's Grandpa | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers AZTOMC, You are correct. Because of the COLD Weather and WET Fields, it does contribute to making the balls COLDER and more DENSE (We ALL know SSUSA can NOT control the wet fields or the temp). Yes, it can or will cause your bat to CRACK or BREAK. That is WHY we are asking SSUSA to allow us to use some kind of SOLAR WARMER for any game that starts under 70 degrees to HELP prevent our bats from CRACKING or BREAKING. There is reason SSUSA or any other Association does not allow you to put Balls in a cooler. The ball becomes more DENSE, Travels FASTER, FURTHER and the ball is HARDER. Also, as we ALL know, when we play in cold weather your body's reaction time is slower compared to playing in warm weather. Especially if you are 65 or older. So, if you put ALL these factors in play, defensively players are put in HARMS Way. WARMING a bat does NOT contribute to this factor. ALL it does is HELP prevent your bat from CRACKING or BREAKING. IF, SSUSA wants to allow Bat Warmers for age groups of 65 and up, just like when they added the extra infielder (Without players input) a few years ago for the 65 age group. I'm quite sure that would be acceptable to the players. |
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