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Dec. 15, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: new rule 6.16 WIND OR SUN AFFECTING BOTH PITCHERS

@#$%^????
Dec. 15, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

Hey LeeLee: Careful or you won't get your cookies - LOL. Your facts are not correct (Tim??). I won't get into everything all over again. But, just to demonstrate, I was the starting pitcher, and I WAS NOT - REPEAT... NOT an add (committed last year, played league, and made first practice in Spring), nor were there the number of adds that were rumored. With that said, you're right, let's leave a sleeping dog lie.

I stand by my post above. In fact, I more than double down on it. I would rather play a team with a bunch of adds, than a team that has been together and developed chemistry like your great team has... and Cornerstone did. I will let the readers out there learn... or never learn for themselves regarding the specifics... but, it's not adds... I know you know what it takes... You have been there... more than once. I'll play a bunch of adds and beat them most of the time... and so will you.

By the way, how is chocolate chip?
Dec. 15, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: new rule 6.16 WIND OR SUN AFFECTING BOTH PITCHERS

Somebody had no commons sense - Why not move to a different field if it is available?

"Sun safety" should not be exclusive to the pitcher. If you have a field where the sun is unobstructed and directly in ANYONE'S eyes, something should be done. More specifically, if ANY defensive player is confirmed to be "blind to the batter" because of the sun, play should be stopped. With that said, if it is possible to "get and angle" which allows reasonable safety, not necessarily a comfortable or easy play, then play ball.
Dec. 15, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

Hey, great debate guys. We all agree that "dropping" players specifically to load is FLAT WRONG. I would like to think managers have more ethics than that (with few exceptions), AND SSUSA, as a neutral party, would fairly screen that.

While we all support the rules and trust SSUSA to keep the above under control, you are spot on as "we will have to agree to disagree" on the following point based upon my personal experiences at all levels:

"Throw together" teams generally have no chemistry. While they may beat some of the "middle of the pack" teams, USUALLY, they can't beat a "solid" team that has been together long enough to have good chemistry (comfort, trust & belief in one another). Most good, solid teams, worthy of winning a world championship, will almost always beat a throw together team. Many of the new guys will have off tournaments, gag in critical situations, and press as they try to get comfortable and prove their great reputation to a bunch of others.

DON'T FEAR THEM!! They are NOT all the hype is suggesting. Go at them with all of your potential... Beating them is very, very doable and adds to the fun... It gives more meaning to your wins.
Dec. 14, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

L: No... I meant only to make the following three points:

1 - The rules are written well as they are. It's not easy for teams from some areas to fill rosters, and the rules leave a degree of flexibility for that.

2 - Someone must write and enforce rules. I trust SSUSA to administer the rules consistently and fairly for all teams.

3 - My experience is that I would rather play a team composed of all new guys, rather than a team that has played together for a long time... You can't beat chemistry. Some people give too much credit to a bunch of new guys thrown together at the last minute. They will NOT have good chemistry and will be VERY beatable... most of the time. Adds don't worry me at all.
Dec. 14, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: new rule 6.16 WIND OR SUN AFFECTING BOTH PITCHERS

Curveball: Perhaps I don't understand. But it seemed that the batter had the choice of which side the pitcher moved to. Therefore, my sarcastic post above. I am doubting that the Mesquite tournament was a SSUSA tournament as that move is not in their rule book.

The SSUSA rule seems reasonable as written below:

"In significantly windy conditions, if, in the judgment of the umpire, the wind is having a discernible adverse effect on the accuracy of both pitchers, the umpire may declare that only strikes count.

In the case of sun interference potentially affecting the pitcher’s safety, the umpire may invoke a short suspension of play. EFFECT: Softball is an outdoor game played in the elements. Sun position affecting the batter is not a potential safety issue and shall not be the basis for a suspension of play."
Dec. 13, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: new rule 6.16 WIND OR SUN AFFECTING BOTH PITCHERS

Let's see... If I move the pitcher to my left about six feet from the rubber. That ought to put him right into the center of my power zone about half-way to the shortstop... OUCH!!

The pitcher would most likely be "requested" to pitch from the batter's strong side. This will put the pitcher on the batter's "hot side" right smack between the sun (behind the rubber) and the foul line. That seem's pretty darn tough on the pitchers.

I don't get it...
Dec. 13, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

SSUSA has done a great job. They have rules on everything being spoken of... And, they are quite fair as they apply to everyone. They take into consideration "the big picture" for all teams, whether from a highly populated area with plenty of players or from a sparse area where it's harder to fill a roster.
Dec. 12, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

I am not supporting massive roster changes at the end of a season. However, don't forget about the importance of "chemistry."

My experience is that a team with too many new guys rarely plays well together. I have observed this with players on my teams as well as against my teams.

Back in the day, we took our Friday night league team which had played together for many years to the annual "open" tournament. We beat two "A" teams who had picked up all of the area ringers. With our "chemistry," we won the tournament. I also experienced the same with my tournament team in an ASA 45+ National tournament where it was rumored a sponsor paid two guys $10,000 apiece to play - We beat them.

There is pressure being on a new team - much more so in a big tournament with guys you have not played much with. A bunch of new guys on the other team worries me less than a team which has been together awhile.
Dec. 9, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

gott2play: Thanks... and you're right that I don't manage as I would not want to. But I do like to "generally" know what's going on. Now, I get the picture about the "Master Roster." In regards to appearing at the Worlds with ONLY players from the original Master Roster:

While a manager does his best to begin the season with whom he believes will finish with him, things happen. We are now at the age when people have issues which are more important than softball (health, family, work, other priorities, etc.). Also, some players just don't fit. That's why the rules allow teams to add and delete... Teams are not stuck with what they start with.

In many cases, especially in the states with smaller populations and shorter playing seasons, teams don't have the "network" to effectively add and delete. As the Worlds approach, they may have a diminished roster, requiring some late adds. If they are lucky, they find some guys, get approval, and participate. Otherwise, they fold. If I had to guess, I would say that a lot of teams go to the Worlds with players whom were not on the original, early-season roster.

There are plenty of criteria in place. Good managers understand the roster spots and the rules for filling them. That's part of the fun for managers... part of the challenge... part of the strategy... one of the many games within the game.

Personally, I appreciate the best competition possible - Winning means more. I encourage teams to try to make it somehow and with the best team possible - As long as they COMPLY WITH THE RULES. Thanks again...
Dec. 8, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

gott2play: C'mon.... It's settled. Never-the-less, why limit yourself? Everyone is meeting the same criteria. Get qualified players from wherever the rules allow. We all have a Player Card. You will meet more friends while getting better.

It is defined regarding what level the individual players must play, and teams are limited in how many out-of-area players are on the roster. Please explain the "Master Roster" you believe that 546 teams should be bound to. When it is supposed to be presented, and when does it become binding. Sorry for my ignorance.

Oh, one last thing, I would also like to know how a team keeps going if too many of them have issues.
Dec. 7, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

Bballer: I think we're in basic agreement. In regards to mid level teams, or those which are there for the first time:

Hey, I've been there. That's what it's all about... Seeing where you stand (testing your metal), learning, and then, FOLLOWING THE LAST FOUR SENTENCES OF SLAPPY'S POST (just above your last post - starting with "Challenging yourself...").

Practice, Practice... And guys that will work together and continue to learn... Attitude...
Dec. 6, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SCREENS IN TOURNAMENTS

Tmac: We are on the same page. My 11/29 post lists reasonable rules which allows a pitcher to participate.

Although undecided, my "knee jerk" reaction is to agree that a pitcher should be able to get back as far as he can. With that said, I like to think that I can pitch, but I'll say, "I can't hold a candle to you if you can consistently throw strikes from 20' behind the rubber - WOW!"

The further back you get, the harder it is to throw a "good" strike. That's why I don't necessarily disagree about letting pitchers try from farther back... If they can...
Dec. 6, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

Bballer: I get your point, but here is some food for thought for you (or more spin):

When I played 50M+, we had to spot 55M+ teams runs, and we always beat them - rather easily. Similarly, when we aged to 55M+ and played the local 50M+ team, we always lost. With that said, a 50M team which places in the top two or three at the Worlds is assumed to be ready to play at the 50M+ level, being the best the Majors has to offer. And the rules of bumping teams agrees.

Expecting to get bumped, shouldn't the potential 50M+ teams have been able to beat the 55 teams? I will add that either of the last four teams we faced could have (should have??) won the tournament. But they made a few more mistakes and/or did not get the breaks.

Never being able to please everyone, SSUSA did a pretty good job of keeping things reasonably even and highly competitive.

Lastly, I did not mean to "short" L.A.F. in my last post. They took us to extra innings in a very tough, well played game. THEN, came the remaining back-and-forth come from behinds - All tough, all even...
Dec. 5, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

I gotta stick up for LeeLee a little bit. I take him at his word that Tim is a good teammate if he says so. I'll go a little stronger than LeeLee in regards to Tim and say that he went about it in a crappy and offensive way. With that said, Tim believes he is doing the right thing There comes a point though, when Tim must learn to use common sense, good research BASED UPON FACTS, and present them in a logical manner in the appropriate arena. Tim didn't do that... Yet.

Some may disagree, but if you know the TRUTH of how things went down this year, I don't think it was as bad as some are saying. If you look at the bracket scores, MTC DID NOT "pound" their way into the finals. Also, Cornerstone came from behind in all of their games after playing L.A.F. Either team could have lost,and MTC did... Once.

Please don't be offended by this next part. It is meant to help those who don't get it. And it made the difference in all of the close games:

Neither of the two teams composed primarily of 55+ players imposed total domination. After watching other games, including the national, and fighting through our games, I know that most of the front running Major teams shot themselves in the foot, a bunch of times - Solo homers, DBO;s, defensive blunders, and poor decisions on the field.

It was not "physical superiority" on the part of the 55 guys. There were many, many ... er ah... not so smart plays by the losers. Every team we played was, overall, faster and stronger. And that's a fact. Think about it, at the Major level, people should start to figure out how to quit making the simple, but big mistakes, time after time, after time!!

Again, no offense meant.
Dec. 3, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

Most of these posts are right on the money in regards to trusting SSUSA and wanting to move on, and I appreciate that. It is always better when level heads prevail.
Dec. 1, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

Like the others said, you have proven SSUSA to be extremely patient and willing to allow players to express themselves. With that said, two months of intense negativity and disparaging remarks was more than enough. Thank you for ending the nonsense!
Nov. 30, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Balanced vs Endload

Makes sense...
Nov. 30, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SCREENS IN TOURNAMENTS

I think the rules stated in my first post would be great for the older brackets.
Nov. 30, 2015
TheCat43
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SCREENS IN TOURNAMENTS

Tmac: Also as a pitcher, I am with you. I will not use a screen anytime within the near future. With that said, I would not object to a pitcher, and team which allows it for him, to use it.

If a screen prolongs a person;s career on the mound by keeping him safer, what's the harm. At our age, some people who can still pitch have naturally declined. While still tough competitors, they lack the speed to adequately protect themselves. They need it.

Again, a screen would hinder the defense much more than the offense. I just would not want it to be a blanket rule which is forced on everyone else. That would be wrong. It must be an OPTION or it gets a "NO" vote.
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