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Oct. 11, 2021
SS11
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

Terry/Dave,
I think part of the issue on why the number of Major Plus teams will continue to decline is because of the roster changes being allowed from a couple of years ago. I hope this trend does not continue.

It was 2019, I think, that you went from 2 players from non-bordering states (same side of Mississippi) to 4. That caters to big money teams that can afford to strengthen an already competitive team into one of 2 or 3 dominant teams. Players that otherwise might play from a local team (strengthening that team) now play on out-of-area teams weakening the local team.

I recommend going back to 2 players from Non-touching states. Any team with more than that, can then be considered an Open division team (limit to 4 non-bordering players, of which 2 can be anywhere in the country). These teams will have to spot runs or fielder to Major Plus teams.

By allowing teams to add non-local players, you are catering to sponsored teams. The more money the team has, the better players it can get.
Sept. 8, 2021
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 2021 World. Championships - Dave or Terry

On the tournament home page it states that the XRock SS ball is the official ball of the tournament. Is that the only ball that will be able to be used? Will SSUSA have plenty to be purchased? If we have the Stote Microcell balls, can we use them? I know this year is a little different due to the issues with supply chains around the world, so wanted clarification before we get out there? Thanks
Aug. 26, 2021
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Looking for opinions and or thoughts

Here is another take, that may or may not be popular. They created an extra division this year, "Open". So now there is one "Open" team, and they feel that other teams of a lower division might take the 11th fielder or 5 runs?

The same question can be asked back, Should there be an asterisk if an Open division team wins a Major Plus World Championship?

It is great that there is 1 sponsor at that level to pay for players from the other side of the country to represent their team, and would be an honor to be asked to do that. There might even be another sponsor or two that could do that, but choose to build a Major+ team instead. By that same philosophy, why have any divisions? Why not have 1 division and best team wins? How does a Major+ team with no sponsorship, or vary limited sponsorship, compete with the All-Star teams made up of players from across the country? Why not just let teams choose the division in which they play?

I think it was a bad call to increase the number of out players from non-touching states from 2 to 4. It caters to teams with sponsorship money, and makes it more difficult for teams that do not have that money to compete. Because it was the highest division, it was pretty competitive. You end up like USSSA Conference where you have 3-4 Major Teams that have the largest budgets. This is building towards that.

According to the announcement from earlier this year, in Seeding games, the equalizer is required or still optional? "the Open team would be required to give an equalizer per usual equalizer rules."

"SSUSA Rules Committee Approves Open Division for 2021

Jan. 1, 2021

SACRAMENTO - The Senior Softball-USA (SSUSA) National Rules Committee voted unanimously to create an Open Division on Wednesday.

In the online special meeting, Rules Committee members established an Open Division for ages 40+ through 70+ that would follow the same playing rules as the Major Plus Division.

Open Division teams would use the same team roster composition rules with the exception that each Open Division team may draw up to two of its four out-of-region players from the opposition side of the Mississippi River as the teamís home state.

As soon as a Major Plus team draws one player from the opposite side of the Mississippi River, it becomes an Open Division team.

The motion passed 8-0.

The Rules Committee confirmed that Open Division teams would need to qualify for the SSUSA World Masters Championship by playing in at least one SSUSA tournament, and that in any pool games against Major Plus teams, the Open team would be required to give an equalizer per usual equalizer rules.

The Committee created the new Open Division, rather than just changing Major-Plus rules because they felt it would put teams moving up from Major to Major-Plus division at a distinct disadvantage. In addition, many Major Plus teams have already established their rosters under current rules.

The new Open Division and roster rule becomes effective Feb. 1, 2021.

Terry Hennessy noted that SSUSA staff still need to survey managers on the other roster rule topics presented to the Rules Committee in December. The committee will reconvene to consider any additional rule changes after those surveys are complete."

Aug. 26, 2021
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 2021 World Championships equipment

Dave/other SSUSA staff,

What balls are allowed for use at the 2021 World Championships?

Stote Microcell 44/375 (must have SSUSA stamp)?
Trump XRock with SSUSA stamp?
Any and all balls that have the SSUSA stamp?

Thanks
Jan. 15, 2021
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 2020 or 2021 Rule Change?

Was the rule changed for Major Plus teams to go from 2 out of region players (same side of Mississippi) to 4 to help sponsors build the best teams possible? Why not make it like USSSA and just let teams go cross country? That rule favors sponsored teams, and will lead to a decrease in participation in major plus over the next 2-5 years.
July 16, 2019
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Western National Field Assignments?

Wehn xan we expect to see the field assignments?
April 18, 2019
SS11
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SW champsionship

Vegas not south eniugh, nor not west enough for you?
Jan. 6, 2019
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Heavy Heart

It is with great sadness that we have lost a great man, husband, father, teammate, and friend. John Napoli (55) pitched for LB softball in 50AAA. Unfortunately after playing a double header, John began not feeling well. He returned home with his wife, and suffered a major heart attack. John is well known, and loved by so many in his community for who he was.he was a very passionate man, both on and off the field. John was always there for those that needed him. John helped numerous people in so many ways. He was really that guy that would give you his last dollar if you needed it. Prayers for his family, friends, and teammates are greatly appreciated.
Oct. 24, 2018
SS11
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: My conclusions from 2 prior discussions, what are yours?

Gary19- Run limits do multiple things:
1)Levels the playing fields. In USSSA, ASA (now USA), etc. there are 7 (USSSA) and 6(USA) divisions. Without run limits, SSUSA would need more divisions, or they would run the risk of losing teams due to an inability to compete. Guys that played major, AA, and A most of their career, playing guys that played C most of their career clearly have the advantage. That advantage is reduced when a team is capped to how many runs they can score per inning until the open inning.

2)Lengthens the game. Better bats, better balls, and the fact that offense doesn't decline as rapidly as defense (speed, arm strength, reaction times all decline quicker than hitting). Without run limits, you might very often see 3 inning games or 2 hour games.

3)Rewards consistency - with the run limit in place, a team that consistently gets 4-5 (6-7 in major plus) every inning is in a better position to win the game. Scoring with this equipment is not difficult, and without the run limits, a team can throw up 4 zeroes and have (2-3) 20+ run innings and run away with it.

When you consider the parity that is in the Senior game overall, the run limits are a big reason for that. The game is different from USSSA or USA Softball open divisions, and that is also a good thing.
Oct. 24, 2018
SS11
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Stepping out of the front of the box?

DC Pete said - "Really can't understand why anyone wants to make a big issue out of this since having one foot step in front of the box doesn't give the hitter any real advantage"

Why would you step out of the box to hit the short pitch that will hit the front of the plate? So you don't have to hit it at your knees? Why? Because it is an advantage to hit the ball at your belt or higher. If there was no advantage, guys wouldn't do it. This is slowpitch right, where good hitters hit .750 and higher. So the advantages a pitcher might have is hitting the corners that might turn a .750 hitter into a .500 hitter. Batters that might whine over it, should just get over it. Do all umpires call it? No. Do all umpires call 6' or 12' the exact same? No. If an umpire is calling it, we as players need to adjust and not be disappointed that an umpire is enforcing the rules of the game.
Oct. 12, 2018
SS11
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Winter World Championships (Phoenix) TENTATIVE Field Assignments

Any 40 Major plus teams going?
Sept. 7, 2018
SS11
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Just Plain Wrong!!!

Curious as to why runs against is the first tie-breaker, when thereading are other factors that can play into it? Example, 2 teams playing on a field with the sun in the batters eyes or wind blowing in at 20 mph, the score will be lower, so a 9-8 win is a huge advantage over two teams playing the exact opposite fields (sun in fielder's eyes or wind blowing out at 20 mph). That game could be 30-28, due to the conditions. Run differential is a more fair evaluation than runs against.
Aug. 16, 2018
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

tattooball wrote:"Why wouldn't they address the real problem?

Take 2 identical maps. Cut Ca and adjoining states then flip the cutout over and place on the east coast. You will find that it is pretty close to east of the Mississippi. Allow the east and west to pick up anyone they like from east/west and no team will be dominate."


This wouldn't fix anything. This would make it worse. Then you would definitely have the teams with sponsorship willing to spend endless amounts of cash, could get the best players in the country and form national all star teams. You'd end up with the same classifications as USSSA has, with similar team quantities. USSSA- 4 major teams, 9 AA teams, 17 A teams, etc.. If you do away with regional restrictions (would be just fine if all players had to live in same state, or within a maximum number of miles from Coach/Sponsor, whatever). I would argue that those restrictions would help to increase competitiveness.

That is taking nothing away from teams building the best teams they can with the current guidelines.
June 13, 2018
SS11
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

I was referring to a play where IF is called and the defense let's it drop.
June 13, 2018
SS11
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

Tim,
I would argue that when guys are on 1st and 2nd, the IDB rule would be called on a line drive where IF is not called. So if a defensive player intentionally let's it drop and it kicks away and the runner advances, you're going to send him back because of the IDB? Once you call IF, the runners know they are free to stay put regardless of what happens after that.
May 7, 2018
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Somerville

Dave, is Summy's teams possibly the most successful "organization" in senior softball's history? It seems Top Gun has many team in different age brackets as well. Just curious what dynasty might be the most successful in Senior Softball history.
May 7, 2018
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Somerville

How many national championships have they won? What age brackets/divisions (50 major plus, 55 major plus, etc) has his teams won in?
April 9, 2018
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: WHY SO RESTRICTIVE

Why the run restrictions? Let's look at it a little closer:

Seniors typically slow down defensively before offensively (reactions, speed, arm strength go before offensive skills),
so naturally it becomes easier to hit against senior teams.

Senior players get to use better bats, and hit better balls (in Vegas at least) compared to "upper level" teams in non-stadium games.

In order to prevent 20 and 30 minute half innings, you have to have run limits.

With time limits, and without run limits, you'd have a lot of 3 and 4 inning games.

Homer limits adds value to players that can play great defense, and might only hit 600-650 (which isn't a great avg in Senior softball).

The best players are those that can do it all on both sides of the ball. Homers gone, they'll basehit it, and pick it defensively.
April 5, 2018
SS11
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Still waiting for a rational answer

If you were a major player as a 60 yr old (or even 63 or 64), you will be a major player as a young player entering the 65+ age group. You won't be considered a AAA player unless you appeal, however the team is ranked on a combination of players individually and overall team strength.
Feb. 12, 2018
SS11
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Safety of the Game

In the 5yrs, I've been playing 40's, haven't heard of anyone being killed. The first year the mask wasn't even mandatory (yes I pitched a couple of times). It is a fine line of giving the customers (us players) what we want (good equipment), and ensuring safety. With some of the 40 yr olds, these bats with the Rock, is about equal to the USSSA Men's Major with their 225 testing bats and Stadium ZN. As guys get older, they obviously don't hit the ball as hard (without the right "supplements" or altered equipment). Once we start playing with the new microelectronics ball, we should see if the Rock remains, and if so for how long. In other associations we use classic M's in 40s which works well too.
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