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, April 16, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the call? Fair or Foul

Dave, which bizarre flight plan that I made up...lol... I agreed with you that if after the deflection the ball went foul yes 2 base award... but are you saying that it doesn't matter if the ball after the deflection goes over the wall in fair territory and lands foul its still a 2 base award?
, April 15, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the call? Fair or Foul

SORRY....didn't pick up on the part of ball going into foul territory.... then it would depend on if the ball went over the fence in the air in fair territory and then landed foul...this would be a 4base award...but if it hit off his glove in fair territory then bounced foul and out of play it is a ground rule double
, April 15, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the call? Fair or Foul

forgot to add....in softball it is considered a 4 base award
, April 15, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the call? Fair or Foul

Dave I see the rule you posted.... I guess deflecting off the glove is different than off the head of the O/F ...they awarded Carlos Martinez a home run when his batted ball deflected of Jose Canseco's head and over the fence.....one of his better fielding plays
, April 9, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: First Base glove

Dave, since SSUSA does not allow mitts except for 1st base and catcher what is the call...is it the same as ASA...Thx
, April 8, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: First Base glove

also this play was just discussed a few posts ago "the do over" and Garocket had the correct answer for the penalty of an illegal glove catch
, April 8, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: First Base glove

I've never seen a SSUSA rule on this but the ASA rule is that the offensive manager has the option of taking the play or having the runners return and the batter go back to the plate and hit again but start with the same count he had before the hit
, April 8, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: First Base glove

im not sure...a few years ago
, April 7, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: First Base glove

not in SSUSA...only 1st baseman and catchers...I know in ASA they allow it
, April 5, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitch that hits the ground before home plate

ques. 1)yes and yes 2) yes
, April 5, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ejection

It depends on the age bracket...if it is 70s or older yes ..if it is 65's and lower you can play with 9...ejected player is an out every time he would have come to bat
, April 2, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

Stick, you keep citing UTRIP rules and in many cases their rules are different...but these are senior softball questions and senior softball rules should be used...you are correct in that it doesn't matter between equipment or player....what matters is whether a play could be made on any runner...in any scenario of a ball that gets by a fielder that ends up hittng a bat/player it is considered a blocked ball... if in the judgment of the umpire it impeded a fielder from making a play then the runner being played on is called out ... if the throw was way off line and no possible play could be made then I would have a dead ball return all runners to the last base touched at the time of the blocked ball. to answer your last question on the ball that skipped by the pitcher again if no possible out could have been made i'd have a dead ball return the runners ... here is the EXCEPTION RULE from the SENIOR S.B. RULE BOOK PG 49 this fully explains when you can get an out or when you return the runners

EXCEPTION:
1. If the ball becomes blocked because of offensive equipment not involved in the game, the ball is ruled dead and runners are returned to the last base touched at the time of the blocked ball. If the blocked ball prevented the defense from making an out, the runner being played on is called out.


, April 1, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

Stick, I thought the way you worded your original scenario that it was a trick question...yes, bats from the OFFENSE just lying up against the dugout that impedes the catcher from making a possible play I would have an out... and in the rule above it says OFFENSIVE EQUIPMENT nothing mentioned about defensive equipment ... on your play throwing the ball to 3rd, this is a TOTALLY different situation instead of the ball hitting equipment it hit a player and I assume that there was more than an on deck batter out in front of the dugout...yes I would have an out.

Remember with equipment it becomes a judgement of the umpire call...if a player has no chance of making a play on a bad throw then the runner(s) should be returned to the last base touched at the time of the blocked ball.
, March 31, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

stick...that is not at SSUSA RULE..nor is it an automatic out call on the lead runner it's a judgement call by the umpire whether or not there would have been a play on the runner... on your scenario... I have umpired many fields where the bats hang on racks outside on the dugout fence in foul territory...as far as the lead runner being out...if the throw was that far off line then there probably would not have been a play on the runner... below is the FULL rule read the EXCEPTION

8.4(10) WHEN RUNNERS ARE ENTITLED TO ADVANCE
Runners are entitled to advance without liability to be put out:
D. When the ball is in play and is overthrown (beyond the boundary lines) or is blocked. EFFECT: All runners will be awarded two bases, and the award will be governed by the positions of the runners when the ball left the fielder's hands. If two runners are between the same bases, the award is based on the lead runner.

EXCEPTION:
1. If the ball becomes blocked because of offensive equipment not involved in the game, the ball is ruled dead and runners are returned to the last base touched at the time of the blocked ball. If the blocked ball prevented the defense from making an out, the runner being played on is called out.
, March 31, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

Stick 8's scenario could be handled a few ways....the way Stick worded it that the bats were LINED UP outside the dugout...if they were in the designated spot for bats not being used then you could have a live ball play on... if they were just lying in the foul area on the ground in front of the dugout then I would go with IB16's answer

with Sisavics scenario I'd have to see the play and the travel of the over thrown ball ...but the field conditions/dug outs should have been discussed pre-game with the managers....if they don't fit all the players then they should have been told stand outside them but in the out of play area
I always tell both managers before the game I'm not baby sitting you...keep your gates closed and only the on deck batter and 1 more outside the dugout if there are more (and usually are) and a ball goes "NEAR THEM" I'm killing it and punishing you by sending runners back...
, March 18, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the only situation where, after the play is over that a "do over" or "mulligan" can be implemented? (at least that I'm aware of)

i think Dave has it....but on the outfielder in SSUSA with a 1st basemans mitt that makes a fly ball catch I thought that after the catch and appealed by the offense that the catch was ruled illegal the batter was awarded 1st base and it went as an error in scoring??
, March 18, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Two bases from release of throw or one base from the base last touched

Stick... yes SSUSA rules...sorry but the runner from 1st would not get home he'd get 3rd...because the B/R had not obtained 1st base before the throw....ALL runners must obtain the next base before the throw in order to award bases FROM THE TIME OF THE THROW... other wise its 2 bases from where the runners are at the time of the pitch .......


1. When the first throw is made by an infielder, two bases shall be awarded. The award shall be governed by the position of each runner at THE TIME THAT THE PITCH WAS MADE; .... HOWEVER, IF ALL RUNNERS INCLUDING THE BATTER/RUNNER have advanced at least one base when the infielder makes the wild throw, on the first play after a pitch, the award shall be governed by the position of the runners when the wild throw was made.


, March 18, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Two bases from release of throw or one base from the base last touched

when you award bases all runners get the same award...since BOTH runners did not obtain the bag before the throw the award is 2 bases from the pitch which would be home plate for the B/R...so he goes to 2nd and runner on 1st goes to 3rd
, March 18, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Two bases from release of throw or one base from the base last touched

Randall...3rd base... since the batter/runner had not yet reached 1st before the throw the award is 2 bases... and you use the position of each runner at the time of the pitch ... read 1. below

1. When the first throw is made by an infielder, two bases shall be awarded. The award shall be governed by the position of each runner at the time the pitch was made; however, if all runners, including the batter-runner, have advanced at least one base when the infielder makes the wild throw, on the first play after a pitch, the award shall be governed by the position of the runners when the wild throw was made.
, March 17, 2017
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: obstruction

yes he can... this is a judgement call on whether or not the on deck batter made an attempt to move out of the way and that a defensive player would have been able to make a play ... also the call is interference... obstruction is called on the defense
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