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Oct. 8, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a double play

Tomar, thank you . This is no different ( unless Dave says so ) than a fly ball to the outfield, left fielder tried to catch it , it pops in the air , and left center catches it before it hits the ground , for an out . I think , as soon as Left fielder touches the ball , the runners can advance . If this is no longer the case in ssussa, news to me . Can Dave or someone advise on this or tell me who I should contact to get an explanation from my original post ?

Oct. 7, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a double play

Also , this was an extremely hard hit ball , and deflection , there was no time for anyone to react ( including the umpire ) until the ball was 50 up , we started yelling for the runner at first and second to take off ..... you can see as soon as the ball is caught the umpire is calling the batter out ( I agree with this call ) , but them calling it a double play based on the runners not waiting for the ball to be caught ( a legal tag up / advancement ) I donít understand .
we tried coveying to the umpire and site directors , we agree on the caught ball batter out , but not a game ending double play ..... no one would budge on that decision ( site directors or umpire )
Thatís why things got so heated , no one there would explain why a double play was awarded .... lol at the game on tape if you have questions
Oct. 7, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a double play

Thanks all , the only reason i put this is on the board , is the site director spoke to the umpire , and confirmed double play , game over . Told me that if I didnít like the ruling ( I also questioned why there would not be 2 umpires on a world tournament like this , and he said put on the message board , and ask why .they wonít have 2 umpires until final Sunday . Again , things were heated , and the director threatened to throw out players , but I give him credit , he didnít . What was explained to me ( my team , the double play was awarded because the runner at first and second base did not tag correctly and left the bases before the second baseman caught the ball coming Down , what we were trying to get the 2 site directors to at least discuss with the ump or ump with them, was we thought as soon as the ball wAs deflected up in the air , the runner at first and second could either stay or advance , both took off while the ball was was coming down . I do not understand how it was ruled a double play , neither runner left until the ball was 50 ft up in the air deflected off of the pitcher , we even asked if they would at least look at the recording to see what actually happened , said they canít look at tapes .
Again , my feeling is the umpire didnít know the rule, and maybe the site director didnít . Iím
Hoping someone from ussssa will clarify . Also if anyone wants to look the game, itís on face book live .....

On a side note , if you look at the game , listen to the umpire calling no pitch instead of illegal ( pitcher was waking up while pitching ). Tried to get the umpire to know itís not no pitch , itís illegal and a ball ...he stated itís ď no pitch ď and neither a ball or strike .... have not heard that rule either .....
Was a great tournament , well run and this is our 4th year playing in it , and hopefully again next year , Iím just trying to get clarification. On the game ending double play .....


Oct. 6, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a double play

Thank you bj , itís exactly as you state it . The umpire said the player on first left to go to second before the ball came down for the second baseman to catch it, I thought as soon as it was deflected by the pitcher , both runners could advance ..... as soon as the 2nd baseman caught it , the umpire called the batter out .... the site director agreed with the umpire , game over ..... never seen a call like this in a world tourney ....... part of the argument was our team was arguing the ball hit the ground before hitting the pitcher .... umpire said he felt it hit the pitchers foot before going 50 foot up in the air ( pitcher was wearing shin and toe guards ) .... in the umpires defense , it was a laser shot and very quick ( hit very hard ) , my point was that was a judgement call and I understand it couldnít be overturned , but then calling the runner out for not tagging correctly ( after the second baseman actually caught the ball ) is not correct , and I feel the umpire and site director got it wrong .... should have only been 1 out ( the batter ) ..... again was a good game , had good umps im general , but unless someone from ssusa can show me this is a wrong application of the rule , the umpire and site director made the wrong call and stuck with it ........ again , not taking anything away from Washington team , was a great game to play .......
Oct. 6, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a double play

This was a very heated discussion in the winners bracket game between gem City and Washington legends ( fun team to play against ) . Bottom of the 7th down 2 , one out . Man at first and second .
Our number 3 hitter hits a laser offf the pitchers foot , and goes 50 ft up and 2 second baseman . Iím yelling at the runner at first to take off to second . He does , the throw goes to first , umpire calls the batter out . Now here is my question , the pitcher said the ball hit his foot ( not the ground ) and it shot over to second basemen ( took forever to come Down ) Iím not questioning that it didnít hit the ground , Iím questioning why the umpire changed his call to a double play , saying the batter at first didnít tag up correctly . I tried explaining to him , and then the 2 directors that came over , that , yes if the umpire felt the ball didnít hit the ground and wAs a deflection 50 feet up , the runner at first could have started running as soon as it was deflected , no difference than if it was a bobbled ball in the outfield , as soon as the ball made contact with the pitcher , runner at first can advance and try to get second . Umpire said even though it hit the pitcher first deflected to second baseman never hitting the ground , the batter at first didnít tag correctly ( after the second basemen caught the ball .
The 2 site directors agreed and didnít overturn it . So , double play game over . Am I mistaken and missing Somthing ? Again Iím not questioning the original call that the ball hit off the pitchers foot and flew 50 ft straight up and over to second basemen , thatís a judgement call , Iím saying there should only be 2 outs.
Oct. 4, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 50 +

Contact me at
Tbgobucks@gmail.com
Oct. 3, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 50 +

Afternoon , who did you play with in major this year ?
May 18, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 50's outfielder looking for a tournament team

Who do you , or did you play for ? And your name
May 5, 2019
timmyb
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard

Iíve played in this the last 3 years , will be my last time . With the tremendous amount of rain this week , and the amount yesterday all day , why not cancel and let teams at least recover a hotel night and rental car , especially when nothing was done or could be done with the amount of standing water , I know itís ď a game day decision at the fields ď but common sense should prevail
Dec. 5, 2018
timmyb
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: New 50 AAA Ohio based tournament team looking for a couple committed quility outfielders. will consider other positions also

Good luck , hopefully see you guys around Dayton , we need more teams ...
Tb gem city merchants
Oct. 22, 2018
timmyb
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: Atlanta Monarchs/Miken 50 OVERHAUL for 2019

A classy well run team ....
Tb gem city merchants
Oct. 4, 2018
timmyb
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SUNSET PARK (50 Major) start times for FRIDAY

I donít know if anyone knows , but we have to be able to get our Gabe times somewhere fir tomorrow
Oct. 4, 2018
timmyb
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SUNSET PARK (50 Major) start times for FRIDAY

There is no way for us to know that , is there a number we can call
Oct. 4, 2018
timmyb
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SUNSET PARK (50 Major) start times for FRIDAY

How do we find game times for national league ?
July 29, 2018
timmyb
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Isa world series

Mot sure of the other divisions , the major was won by
Dudley ,1
Gem city 2
Bad Boyz 3
May 5, 2018
timmyb
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Get rid of the 1-1 count

I donít care either way , I will say this , the last 2 years I can count on 1 hand the games going full 7 Iíve played in , only played 2 tourneys so far this year , no one brought up the 1-1 in a negative way and every game has gone 7 ..... I dislike changeing the game , but so far sigh my limited application itís been good , mynold cosch said weíre playing a kids game anyway
Good luck to all ,
Timmy b
Oct. 3, 2017
timmyb
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Time limit

Thanks all , we did my play well , only won 1 game , but we also never played more than 6 innings in any game , had time limit on all of them ..... it did not change the outcome of the game , but in the game I mentioned above , they absolutely were slowing down to get the time limit .... when it was close , and our batter was up for the 7th run , their coach called time to go out and talk with the pitcher , our coach told the umpire what they were doing to get to the time limit ....... I'm not saying what the coach did for them was wrong , not at all , I feel the less you have teams or players using the time limit as a part of the game the better, if the next inning starts with the last out , or the 7th run before the timer goes off , this would eliminate that problem....... we had 2 games it did not ....... thanks for the explanation. All ....

Dave , one last thing , and I know I'm being petty , but the umpires were quick to start the timer ( we were at 67 mintutes while warming up , not even made a pitch yet ). ..... did not know the ump started the timer , our coach , or their coach new it ...... we questioned it and the umpire said he had to stay on schedule ........ travel a long way to play quick games like that
Oct. 3, 2017
timmyb
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Time limit

I've tried to post this , not sure why it hasn't showed up . When does the time limit go itn to effect ?
Is iit the last out in the existing inning , or first pictch of next inning ?
Scenario :
We were home team ( 4th inning and we were losing ) we hit a home run for our 7th run , had 1 mintute left on timer , coach had us hustle out to field , we were in our position , ready to pitch , batter at the plate , timer goes off , ump
Calls time and says the existing inning would be the open inning , we asked and the umpire said the 5th hadn't started yet as a pitch had not been pitched , is this how the time limit rule works ?
Was a fun , well run tournament
Aug. 31, 2017
timmyb
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Pitcher looking to play 50 and over in 2018

Do you have contact info ?
Thanks
Tb
July 13, 2017
timmyb
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Results of the SCSSA Beach Bash 17

I see what your saying , Ask the major and aaa teams we played in the other 5 tourneys ,this year , and did not win 1 game if we even remotely are drastically above them . It has nothing to do with not wanting to compete or play . We new going in to this year , it would be a challenge . It has everything to do with major and major plus teams being so close in ability and paring ( I do see a drop in aaa ) , you add giving 5 runs on top of it to the major teams , and play by their rules , it gets a little tough . I'm not saying we shouldn't play major plus , but name me another major or major plus team this year that has won zero games vs aaa and major , and inly 2 games all year in isssa , zero wins in spa or usssl . At no time did I say we were breaking up or not playing , we are committed to playing , I just see a lot of major teams playing year in and year out as low as they can

And again , playing major plus , in 5 spa and usssla tournaments , zero major plus teams playing other than us....
Timmy b
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