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| April 19, 2026 Mango | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: You make the call Gavin5, My understanding is that the unreported defensive sub must make a play ( not just enter the game) and then the offensive team must protest before the next legal pitch, or the play stands and he’s in the game. This is outlined in rule 4.7 .2 on page 27 of SSUSA RULE BOOK. There’s a potential penalty if the unreported sub makes a play and the offense protests in a timely fashion. However the unreported sub becomes officially in the game at that time. |
| April 18, 2026 Mango | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: You make the call Thank you B. J. ! That’s what I argued also…Unsuccessfully. I also argued 4.7B1a. that he was in the game that way ( assuming the 1-1 count)since he hadn’t completed his at bat . I was unsuccessful in that argument as well. In fairness with the exception of that particular older umpire who’s nerves and inexperience showed at the coin flip ( king seat game of 60 major plus) we had VERY Good umpires in 5 of our 6 games. One particular umpire who was younger, named Jerry, did a very good job all weekend as did Rudy. And a fun time was had by all! |
| April 17, 2026 Mango | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: You make the call You make the call At the Southwest last weekend there was confusion on the unreported sub rule and penalty. Situation …. In the third inning we substituted a player listed as a legal player/ sub on our lineup card into the game during our at bat. For the sake of argument, although it was heavily disputed, let’s assume he didn’t report in. He has become an unreported substitute. He hits a 3 run homer. The inning ends. He continues in the game for 2 more innings and comes up again. In his second at bat After 2 pitches and player still at bat the defensive team appeals . The umpire calls him out. And lets him stay in the game. I’ve gone over the rule several times and am still confused as to what I’m missing for him to be called out. Here’s the rule section I keep reading and I read it as…after he hit the homerun in his first at bat, and there was no appeal and another legal pitch was thrown he is “officially in the game” ( 4.7 B. c. ) OR during his second at bat , 2 innings later, since he already had 2 pitches ( 4.7B.a) he was officially in the game. In neither of those situations do I see an out called. Section 4.7. B.b is the only place where an out is called and it states the appeal has to be AFTER he has COMPLETED HIS AT Bat and before the next legal or illegal pitch. He was called out BEFORE he completed his second at bat. Was the call correct? |
| Sept. 17, 2024 Mango | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Vegas 60 Major Tournament Hi Dave, For some reason the scores and results for all the 60 divisions are incomplete. They seem to have only the first day seeding games scores.. The 55 scores are complete. In the 60 Major Plus the results were: 1) Sommerville Softball (CA) 2) Florida Top Dogs 3) Texas Crush 4 ) Dudley Lightening Missouri |
| March 25, 2024 Mango | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Doesn't it just take a couple of clicks and a little typing? Wondering, You are probably suffering from the same affliction many seniors like myself suffer from…technological impotence. However I discovered a cure for this particular part of the problem that you and others on here sometimes experience. To see the updated scores: when you are on the tournament page that shows the brackets simply look at the top of your browser and in the little box you will see a lock and seniorsoftball.com followed by a curved back arrow. Simply Click on the arrow and the page will refresh with all the individual game scores. I promise that St. George scores are in there at least for the 2 divisions I was interested in. Thanks for all you do DD! |
| Dec. 29, 2022 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Thank you, SSUSA 100 percent agree with Webbie’s post! This is the time of year many of us count our blessings and I am thankful for SSUSA’s existence as a well organized organization that provides a high quality product for us. It’s the best Senior game in the country. And Dave Dowell is the man! He’s not only smart and well organized, but he’s also pretty funny as well! Hope everyone has a great 2023! Mango |
| Dec. 12, 2021 Mango | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Coin flips Doak….shhhhhh! Don’t let this out. Actually I agree with you that in slow pitch softball there are more advantages both psychologically and strategically as visitors. The biggest one strategically is in a close game with the home team trailing you know where the tying and winning runs are and can manage accordingly. Psychologically if you’re visitors the home team is always chasing you. I’ve been preaching this for years. Likewise not everyone on our team agrees with me but we’ve had many converts on our Sommerville team over time. Mango |
| March 19, 2021 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: IS Cathedral City happening this weekend Does anyone know if Cathedral City Spring Nationals will be happening this weekend? |
| Nov. 8, 2020 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Registration Renewal Dave, Sorry to hear you have "a very small staff". I remember a guy in gym class that had that problem too. I am assuming from the perpetual smile on Fran's face that you have found ways to overcome your shortcomings. Thanks for all you and the rest do for Senior Softball. Cheers, Mango |
| July 26, 2019 Mango | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: 2018 TRIPLE GRAND SLAM WINNERS Albie 34, I'm trying to remember all the way back to last year and before so I may not be 100% accurate. But I dont think you get anything extra for the Triple Grand Slam itself. What you do get is a prize package for each event. One for Western Nationals, one for the World Championship(a free ring) and a separate prize for winning the USA game (it has varied generally from cleats, to shirts to backpacks). But again I could be wrong maybe one year we got cleats for the Triple Grand Slam on top of the others.Dave could probably answer this for sure. Regardless, if you were due something you should have received it by now. |
| April 29, 2019 Mango | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: THANKS FOR A WELL RUN TOURNEY DAVE AND THE SSUSA STAFF AT SUNSET PARK I concur with ODIE. The tournament at Sunset was well run. Directors were very good...knowledgeable, helpful, and available. The officiating ranged from good to excellent. Special shout out to umpire Tom (extremely excellent) who did our seeding games on Friday not to be confused with UIC Tom (always excellent) who did our championship games on Sunday. 50 platinum division was exceptionally competitive and featured great sportsmanship, respect and camaraderie. A very positive experience. |
| April 18, 2019 Mango | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: LVSSA/SSUSA SOUTHWEST CHAMPIONSHIPS 2019 Marc, You are obviously new to the board and perhaps SSUSA. If you knew Dave Dowel you never would have leveled such a personal attack questioning his character and integrity. I'm sure if you ever meet him or get to be around SSUSA for a while and begin to grasp the enormity of the job he has as well as his professionalism you will think differently. You were out of line. Hopefully you will see that and apologize. |
| March 6, 2019 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Cannabis topical - non THC I was guessing Gunny got the Extra Strength THC as opposed to the non THC. |
| Jan. 14, 2019 Mango | Topic: Players looking to join a team Discussion: 65 Major Plus Players from Texas Looking for a Team Wow. I'm surprised this post is still up. Someone should have grabbed these 3 as soon as this was posted. Joe Read and company are good old boys that can play the game. They will make any team an immediate top tier team and you'd be hard pressed to find better guys. Some team is going to be very happy when they get these guys. Mango |
| Aug. 16, 2018 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Major++ Can anyone shed light on the following rumors? Next year Golden State has to spot all NBA teams points and a 6th player. Tim Mollette(sic) has taken over a controlling interest in SSUSA. |
| June 28, 2018 Mango | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: WORLDS AND NEW 4 DAY FORMAT We too will be missing players for the first day of a 4-day tournament model.And it would be nice to see the teams from back east that we dont see very often at full strength , their teams as well as ours. I was thinking along the same lines as the real deal. I dont know if SSUSA has the staffing to use multiple cities but it sure would solve some of the problems and I think add a bit of excitement to move it a little bit like the superbowl,world cup world series, all star games etc. Now there may be some contractual obligations left over from the merger of SSUSA and LVSSA. And SSUSA has to be pretty happy with the success of their current business model (600 plus teams) so probably no pressing need to change anything on their part. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. |
| Feb. 9, 2018 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Spot the Major + player Hey Stick, You make a good point! Our Mavericks and Sommerville 50 Major plus teams did go about 15 deep with Major plus players (type C). And that’s probably why we did experience some success. And contrary to the stereotype of Major plus players being prima donnas our guys were “team first” players or they didn’t last with us. Hope to see you out there some time this year. Best, Mango |
| Feb. 8, 2018 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Spot the Major + player Webbie, Nice post and I agree with what you said without saying it specifically. That is the Major Plus player is different depending on age group. OZ What I have seen in the last 14 years in the 40/50 Major Plus division and last year in the 55’s -The 40’s, 50’s and even 55’s typical major plus player is neither player A nor B. Let’s call them player C. They are a player that hits 750-825 with called on power. And they can play defense. They are bigger, faster stronger and play better defense than the typical AAA players. There are usually at MINIMUM 6 to 8 players that fit this bill on a typical Major Plus team in the aforementioned age group. And on the better or elite teams you will be in the 8-10 player C’s . There are no 650 hitters with power that cant play defense in 40-55 Major plus unless they’re a sponsor. Lets face it with these bats and balls everyone can hit homers in this age group. It’s a joke There may be a few 700 hitters but they better be able to really go get the ball, be an exceptional pitcher or a great short stop. Webbie I don’t know about the older age groups but since everyone can hit with these balls and bats (75 year olds hitting homers) I’m going to guess, as you said, defense would be a premium and those types of players would be recruited more heavily in M+ at that age group. I watched a couple 60 tournament games last year and the biggest drop-off I noticed was on defense and running. Mango |
| Aug. 10, 2017 Mango | Topic: Website comments Discussion: MONEY Omar, I agree that the Rock is way too hot a ball especially for Vegas where the ball flys. I prefer the Stote. We played in Sacramento a couple weeks ago where it was 103 degrees at game time. There were homeruns. But only by home run hitters. The games were much more enjoyable than hitting super balls. Get rid of the Rock. In my opinion only fake home run hitters want the Rock. Mango |
| Aug. 3, 2017 Mango | Topic: Bats Discussion: Outcome of GSC Ed, I'm sorry that you and many others lost money to Steve Mckinlay and his CPA wife Kristi. I know he was sentenced to 5 years in prison and believe he is still in prison. I'm not sure what happened to Kristi Mckinlay. Last I heard she was trying to get home confinement. Do you know if she went to prison or jail?Or did she get home confinement? It seems she gave Steve an air of legitimacy with her CPA license and was perhaps as complicit as Steve. Mango |
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