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Dave (Mango) Meggison

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Orange, CA

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July 8, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What was to consensus on DBO Homerun rule after Rock N Roll Reno?

Ok Tim, Iíll bite. Only because its summer time and Iím a bit bored..

We have a guy who has an over the line swing- heís really good at it at it. Spent years working on it. He has been successful with that swing at an .800 percent (8 hits every 10 at bats) success rate over the course of the last 9 years. I've played with and against some very good seniors and I donít know of a player that hits a homer 8 times out of 10.

Our very best home run hitter has a success rate of just over .333 (1 homer every 3 at bats). Who does the rule penalize here? The .333 or the .800 percent success rate player?

Would you propose a rule limiting the number of dink hits a team can have? After 8 dinks they have to hit the ball hard? Sounds kind of silly doesn't it? But itís the same logic.

More importantly the dbo rule takes defense away from a game where they already devalue defense (5 or 7 runs an inning devalues defense). When fair balls hit really hard go over a fence for an out-that is one less out defensive teams have to record. At the 50 major plus level this season, the home runs rule has put less defense in the game!

June 3, 2014
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Reno results

Sommerville Softball won the 50 Major Plus Division going 8-1, with 5 straight wins on Sunday(without a break). This included double dipping an excellent North West Legends team by a score of 29-13 in the Championship game followed by a 32-28 win in the ďifĒ game. Respect and camaraderie among the plus players, accompanied by excellent competition, great fields, and very good umpiring provided a very enjoyable weekend. As always, Dave Dowel did a great job as TD.
May 9, 2014
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ROLL CALL FOR "ROCK N RENO"

Hey Rev,
Saw GSC is going as an "exhibition" team. What's that about?
Mango
Jan. 7, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Teams leaving SSUSA?

Hey Stick,
All is well! Sorry I can't help you out on the costs but OKI would be a great team for a tourney like that. I'm not sure what your travel plans are but some of the west coast teams ( AZ Elite, East Bay, MTC, GSC, NW Legends and Sommerville) have been collaborating via email to try and shape our schedules so that we maximize tournament participation.

If you guys want in on the email loop and can come to one more west coast tournament other than the SSUSA Vegas worlds let me know.

We also would be interested in hearing from any other eastern 50 major plus teams that have an interest in collaborating schedules.

Sommerville is looking to play east and would like to go where there is the most participation. In the past we've gone to SPA but heard there might be some problems with the impact players list. We are open to suggestions.



Jan. 6, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: All the hate on DBO with senior bats...how about this?

Welcome to the board Mau-the bats are way to hard to control(altered bats) the best way to control it is with the balls-then only home run hitters hit bombs. By the way- as hard as you hit it, if you hit the ball down you could kill a pitcher. Just the thought of it -Yikes!
Mango

Jan. 6, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Teams leaving SSUSA?

Hey Marv19- Sommerville Softball (50 Major Plus)will definitely play in your "Smasher" tournament barring schedule conflicts. I would also think that would be an easy tourney for Nazzarino, GSC, AZ Elite to make and perhaps we could get some Eastern teams(Adiktiv?OKI?) to come out and visit California.
Thanks,
Mango
Jan. 5, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA shares DBO rationale Senior

Thoughts comments and observations and suggestions on the lack of logic and consistency in justification of the DBO rule.

The DBO rule does nothing to emphasize defense. IN fact it can be argued it does just the opposite. A team being awarded an out for NOT making a play is not more defense. Thatís like saying the 5 run rule emphasizes defense. In fact its conceivable a team can win a game without ever recording and out. Think about it. A team gives up 5 every inning then in the open inning they watch 3 balls hit over the fence for DBOís. Thatís not defense.

Suggestion- If they want to emphasize defense expand the runs per inning from 5 to 9 at ALL levels. Then when you make an error it hurts.

Another question- when giving an equalizer of 5 runs without allowing the plus team to even have a chance to stop those awarded runs- how does that emphasize defense? Perhaps the weaker team should always have to use the extra fielder.

If they want to narrow the gap (I believe the real reason for the rule) between plus and major by further restricting the more skilled plus players then are we to assume that they will be moving quite a few major teams up? How many major teams is SSUSA going to bump now because of the dumbing down of plus?

Finally- I believe the real problem is the Rock ball being used in Vegas. The ball just flyís there and is too lively for that venue. If plus players hit that ball down it is a recipe for disaster- there wonít be more plays made by defense- just more injuries- to fielders and base runners alike. Change the ball in Vegas- not the rule. Just a suggestion.

Dec. 13, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: players please respond to rule changes

And btw- that no vote above actually is 16 no votes because there is not a player on our team that wants this rule.


Dec. 13, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: players please respond to rule changes

Dave meggison
Sommerville Softball
NO

Btw- I would still love an explanation from SSUSA for why the rule change- I agree with mike- dbo in every division EXCEPT major plus... There's no sandbagging in major plus!
Dec. 12, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: players please respond to rule changes

It seems like an overwhelming majority of plus players donít like the DBO rule.

I agree it makes sense that they do have a DBO in the lower divisions- if you want to hit a bunch of home runs we have a place for you- the plus division.

I'm baffled by this ruling for the plus level.

SSUSA can you explain your reasoning?

They're time limits on all games except the championship game so its not like the plus games go longer until the last one.

All the plus players I've spoken with except Tim seem to be against it.

Is it because the umpires would get confused remembering two sets of rules?

SSUSA can you please explain?
Dec. 10, 2013
Mango
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: New rule

I too would be interested in hearing SSUSAís rationale for the rule change for plus.

It seems like an overwhelming majority of plus players donít like it.

It also makes sense that they do have a DBO in the lower divisions- if you want to hit a bunch of home runs we have a place for you- the plus division.
Oct. 23, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: New for Vegas

Hey Rev,
Sorry to hear you guys aren't going to Phoenix Worlds. I know it has been on your schedule all year and as recently as a couple weeks ago you you guys were planning on going, It has to be disappointing.

Call me when you get squared away and we will try to coordinate some local stuff this year.

At Ed- will do, look forward to meeting you as well.

Mango
Oct. 21, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: New for Vegas

Will the GSC bat and softball team be at the Phoenix Worlds?
Oct. 19, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Suspensions

Wasn't there didn't see it. If it happened as described above (a few players got into it and other players on these teams broke it up) then to paint everyone with the same punishment brush seems illogical and unfair. The players that were the peacemakers or non-participants should be exempt from punishment.

Food for thought- the umpires and tournament director Iím assuming tried to break it up. Their behavior was the same as the teammates who tried to break it up or actually broke it up. Should the umpires and tournament director be suspended for a year as well for their behavior? Wouldn't that seem silly?
Mango

Sept. 17, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 50 Major Plus

Hi Guys,
Just curious- who is going to Vegas and who is going to Phoenix in the 50 major plus this year?
Mango
July 20, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

Hi Kandi,
I just sent you a team picture of Shubins from the California ďAĒ state championships as well as a couple of action shots from a 4th of July tournament in Albuquerque. If you donít get the email let me know and I will try again.
Mango

July 19, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

KNDKCOOK
In the 1980ís I played with your father on the Shubinís team you mentioned as well as Rebs and the The Breakers. I have a picture of one of our Shubinís Teams on the wall in my game room that has your father in it. If you would like I can scan it and send you a copy of it if you give me your email.

I played with and against him starting in the late 70ís through the late 80Ēs. Your father was an excellent pitcher and fierce competitor. He was a bit of a character as well.
Mango
June 30, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Major Plus

Suggestion- 3 divisions per age group-AA, AAA, Major.
AA- no homers,dead ball inning ending out
AAA- no homers, dead ball out
Major-7 homers,one up walks,6 runs per inning ( the run per inning rule should keep most games close)

The defending Major World champs play the following year (that year only)in all tournaments as a "Plus" team giving an equalizer (either runs or fielder)to all major teams that want it until they get to the world. In the world the only equalizer allowed would be an extra fielder.

These suggestions could be tweaked but you get the idea. The biggest culprit in the current system is the home run rule in the lower divisions ( current major and AAA). That is where the tube of toothpaste needs to be squeezed.


Mango
April 10, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: P413 revisited

Point of clarification- I was hitting the GSC farther than the white combat, but not farther than the red Ultra.

April 10, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: P413 revisited

So let me preface this by saying that I have no financial stake in GSC. However, I have known and been friends with Steve MacKinlay for over 30 years. And it is BECAUSE I know Steve and his, how shall I say Ö. over exuberance and tendency toward hyperbole, that I viewed all this talk about his ďsuper batĒ with a great deal of skepticism. I hit one of his prototypes about a year and a half ago (that he told me was fantastic) and it was terrible. It didnít break, but it was dead.. Somewhere in the past year and a half they figured it out.

After yesterday I am no longer a skeptic. I hit Macís bat for about 60 swings, then used my bat of choice for the last 4 years. I put my red Miken (because I was afraid it would break) back in my bag after using it for about 10 swings to gauge the distance of the field. I also swung a white combat centenarian ( another bat I break between 75-100 swings). I was hitting the GSC bat farther.

For me, Macís bat was not better than the bat Iíve used for the last 4 years (red Miken) in terms of distance. But it was very very close. However, in terms of durabilityÖit appears to be not even in the same solar systemÖwe put over 500 swings on it today and I was told it had 500 plus when we started. Iím ecstatic if I get 75 to 100 swings on my red Ultras, often times breaking them in under 50. I would never even consider putting an Ultra through what we did to that bat yesterday.



If he gets that bat approved, and I donít see why it wouldn't because it is not hotter than a red Ultra,players will no longer have to sacrifice durability for performance.

To quote Softball4BÖ it will be a game changer.

Mango

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