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Oct. 30, 2017
Bman63
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Appeal From Vegas

Wow, no integrity to answer the direct question. Instead Mr. Moreno chooses to spin the question and insult everyone's intelligence.

It's very clear that SSUSA rules (which in this case are clearly black and white) do not apply to everyone. They pick and choose when, how and to who they apply their rules.

Very sad commentary SSUSA. Where is the integrity of the organization?

I also emailed SSUSA asking the same Re-Rating question when "SSUSA Staff" suggested it be done in that manner...to date no response from SSUSA.


Oct. 5, 2017
Bman63
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Any results yet for the 50 major?

r4pitch I agree.

I sent an email this morning and I am awaiting the answer to my original question. It is certainly a legit request.
Oct. 5, 2017
Bman63
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Any results yet for the 50 major?

SSUSA Staff and/or info@seniorsoftball.com you have mail.
Oct. 5, 2017
Bman63
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Any results yet for the 50 major?

Tim Millette, on the other "big boy" message board, also said the following:

"our roster was not changed from the beginning of the year"

SSUSA Staff you were kind enough to respond as to specific players and rankings. Thank you!

SSUSA Staff, can you now respond to my original question as to how they were able to appeal and be re-rated after only playing (1) Major Plus tourney? Apparently, there was no change to their roster. They didn't drop to below 6 players. On the surface, there seems to be a double standard unless you can explain otherwise. Please be transparent!

Again, I think this is a fair question!
Oct. 4, 2017
Bman63
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Any results yet for the 50 major?

Nor am I hiding behind my keyboard. My name is Brian LaSalle and live in Massachusetts. I know about 6 or 7 of the guys on Elmwood. By the way.... great job guys!

After reading the post I did some simple research on the tournament page and saw what tournaments Thunderstruck played in and saw the teams most resent ratings change. In all it took me about 10 minutes to sort thru the info.

They were Major in June got bumped to Major Plus in June/July. Played in (1) Major Plus tourney in July, they must have appealed in July/August and were re-rated back to Major on August 30.

I am in no way speaking for or on behalf of Elmwood.

I am speaking on behalf of myself. I believe that my question is fair and see no reason it can't be answered "in a public forum" as opposed to a "private email or letter". My question is: I don't understand how they can be re-rated after playing in only (1) Major Plus tournament. A very similar situation happened to my team in 2015 and the timing was almost exact as this situation. I filed an appeal and was told we had to wait, we did not play enough tournies at the "new" classification to warrant a re-rating. I was told we had to wait until the following June to be considered. The Thunderstruck re-rating seems to be contrary to the ratings appeal process posted on this website.

Again, just curious as to how this was allowed? SSUSA?
Oct. 3, 2017
Bman63
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Any results yet for the 50 major?

I understand that Thunderstruck got bumped to Major Plus after winning NorCal Championships in Major division (end of June). They then played in (1) Major Plus tourney (Western Champ. At end of July) and then get bumped beck to Major on August 30 (1 month before Worlds.)

My understanding is that ratings appeals can only be heard in December and June. However SSUSA reserves right to make changes at any time. Secondly, my understanding is teams must play in minimum of 3 tournies before you can be re-rated to a different classification. They played(1) tourney and were re-rated?

SSUSA, can you please give your input and clarify this situation.
Oct. 3, 2017
Bman63
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Russell Road Rec Complex

I understand that Thunderstruck got bumped to Major Plus after winning NorCal Championship as a Major team. They then play in one Major Plus tourney (Western Championship at end of July) and then get bumped back down to Major on August 30 (1 month before Worlds).

My understanding is that ratings and appeals can only be heard twice per year: December and June, however SSUSA reserves the right to make changes at any time. Secondly, a team must play in at least 3 tournies before an assessment can be made to re-rate them to a different classification. I know this from personal experience. A team that I played on 2 years ago was bumped to Major (after winning our 1 and only tourney ever.) After playing in Northeast Champ as a Major team (where we got hammered). We appealed to be moved down and we were told we have to wait, it's too soon for an appeal process, wait till next June.

SSUSA, can you please educate us all on the appeal guidelines as it relates to this specific situation. I think this is a fair question! Is there something that may be missing that we are not aware of?

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