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| April 18, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Infield fly rule B.J. Doesn't really matter one way or another if you agree with me or not. Those are the written rules and need to be followed by the umpires on the fields. Regardless of whether or not you think they're right. |
| April 18, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Need help on a ruling for when a bases loaded walk occurs Tim, As someone who's been an ump for over 30 years I agree that umps that take pride in their work, make the right calls, don't try to make the game about them, and know not only the scenario prior to every pitch but also ones who know the actual rules. I'm glad that you witnessed all of that last weekend but that doesn't make my statement any less true. I'm sure you've been around the senior game longer than I have but I can assure you that umpires more often than not try to speed the game up exactly how I said. Hell we've had guys that were injured and had no subs but had to stand in the box and occasionally taken walks and the umps have said you don't have to walk all the way down there just tell me the number pinch running. Not all umps follow all the rules as is extremely evident by a few of the people commenting on this and other posts claiming to be umps. He'll some umps tell you in SSUSA a HR is hit and sit while some make everyone advance a base and that is a fact. |
| April 17, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Need help on a ruling for when a bases loaded walk occurs Dave, I would assume the runner on 1B didn't advance because most of the time in situations like that the umps tell you that you don't have to advance to save time. Rarely do we get to play a full 7 innings so in order to save time when things like this occur and there is zero chance of an out taking place we are just told we don't have to advance. I get it rules are rules but the runner physically walking to the next base or even running should have no bearing on the outcome. |
| April 17, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Ranking and Rosters Dave, I can see how it would be harder to keep track of player ratings themselves but why can't rosters be posted? Since you brought up Medical exemptions I have an honest question for you. 2 years ago Crawford Contracting was 50 Major and following Vegas were bumped to Major+. Upon getting bumped the team disbanded so shouldn't every player should have carried a Major+ ranking for 2 years according to what you posted in here? Every member of that team was granted a medical appeal and spent all last year playing either 50AAA or 55AAA? How does that happen? I can see a player or two getting exemptions but every single player is crazy. |
| April 16, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Ranking and Rosters One Nation is another that lists player rankings as well as team roster. ISSA publishes team rosters and I believe NSA does as well. |
| April 16, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Infield fly rule BJ, You're still missing the point. regardless of whether or not a player attempts to catch it or just lets it land it's still an IF and batter is out if there are men on 1st and 2B with fewer than 2 outs a player "CAN" make a play with "Ordinary Effort" doesn't mean the player has to attempt it. It should be called every time that scenario presents itself because that is what the rule states. If the ball is popped up and those circumstances are present you know damn well every player in the field will be calling IF along with you because it's the right call as well as the base runner so he doesn't get doubled up. The call is based on the base circumstances, ball flight and number of outs not what an umpire thinks of the players abilities. |
| April 15, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Infield fly rule TheScreamer5, Where has it ever been stated at any level that the intent of the rule is not to excuse the fielders from making an honest attempt to catch the ball? It's not like this is a SSUSA the IF rule from Little League to MLB in my experience is consitently the same in every organization. I have never seen another variation of the rule to reference players having to attempt to catch it. The only judgement part would be IMO if the 1B, 3B Catcher had to sprint to get to a little blooper and make a diving play which the term "reasonable Effort" would negate anyhow. |
| April 15, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Ranking and Rosters Why doesn't SSUSA publish player rankings and rosters online like other associations do? They are the strictest around when it comes to players jumping teams so just curious why they are pretty much the only assocation(i know of) that doesn't post rosters at the very least. |
| April 15, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Infield fly rule GMCinCOS, That rule says "can be caught by any fielder with ordinary effort" it doesn't say any fielder has to make the effort. |
| April 2, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: Senior Bats FTP, How many swings did you get out of it? |
| April 1, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: Senior Bats FTP, Honestly don't see many broken SP bats. SP makes bats for all types of swings, they have bats for older players with slower swings, medium barrels for guys that have above average swing speed and hard barrels for guy that hit hard. What 2 bats did you break and what would you say your swing speed is? General rule of thumb if you're not a HR hitter then you have a slower swing speed. If you can hit a HR on occasion you'd fall into the medium category and people who can hit HR's at will or bombs would be considered a fast swing speed. |
| March 30, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: Senior Bats I can't speak on the FG BP bat but they are vastly different bats. The Maximus is a 2 piece hard barrel and takes a long time to break in but is a very good bat. The FG BP bat is a softer barrel and a 1 piece bat... |
| March 19, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Score updates Here we go...... |
| Feb. 27, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: e-mail update on bat testing Big Unit, I suggested that multiple times already and it's fallen on deaf ears. If it's truly about safety which I believe it is, then the testing needs to be done prior to someone getting hurt with a bat that fails compression. There should be no penalty for bringing a bat to the park that is unaltered but fails compression and by testing and stickering prior to game play will prevent a lot of bats that don't comply with compression to not be used. Not everyone has access to a tester to make sure their bats pass before bringing them to the fields. . Lot's of bats fail the 140 compression before they break so sometimes you just don't know what it tests at. I won't knock SSUSA because they do appear to be trying to get cheaters out of the game and make it safer but that doesn't mean they have to completely reinvent the wheel. It's been said many times as you suggested that the best way to go about this would be to test bats prior to being able to play. That being said, it puts more work in the lap of the directors and the field directors. It will require having a tester as well as having a designated person(s) to do the testing before the first game. Both of which will cost them more money but they are the ones that implemented the testing so that's on them. Like you said take a page from pretty much every association across the board for the younger guys tourneys and do testing on day 1 prior to every playing. If you bat passes it gets stickered and you can use it for play. If it fails then it's kept until the end of the day/tourney at which time it can be retrieved and taken home. If player comes to bat without a stickered bat at any point in the game it's an automatic out and the bat gets taken to be tested. If it passes it gets stickered. If it fails then they can take it and have it opened up to see if it's been altered. The difference between going in the barrel if it fails and taken is that you didn't comply by having it tested first. It's a simple process but it's more work and less profit for the association but they will then be sure they did everything they could to test bats ahead of time. |
| Feb. 26, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: A wild suggestion for the 12 ft pitching height yankeesfan12, As I said to Nickname36, reading is fundamental.. You should try it sometime, where did I say it bothered me? I never said it bothered me, I made fun of the fact he called me that because I've been hearing it for 40 years. I wasn't the one calling him out for name calling. |
| Feb. 26, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: A wild suggestion for the 12 ft pitching height LC7, The most ironic and best part of all this is I have been an electrican for the past 40 years so I've been called "Sparky" for 2/3 of my life. He resorts to name calling becuase that's all he knows... Nickname36, For my last interaction with you in any way shape or form, reading fundamental you should try it. I never said you swung shaved bats try to follow along... You were babbling on and on in another post that I think you might have even started about teammates swinging shaved bats and asked people if they would continue to play with a person knowing they swung shaved bats and if you would out them if you knew they did for sure. It's not worth my time to go back and look but you not only said you wouldn't say anything about them swinging shaved bats but would also continue to play on the same team with them and hang out with them. All 3 show you are everything that is wrong with this game.. |
| Feb. 26, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: A wild suggestion for the 12 ft pitching height Wow you got me there with the Sparky thing. That's just a soul crushing comment. But in all reality I've been called worse by far better people than you. I have no time for someone like you who would willing play ball with someone they knew shaved bats like you've already admitted to. |
| Feb. 25, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: A wild suggestion for the 12 ft pitching height Nickname36, I've probably gotten more rings than you ever will. The most laughable part is you start EVERY comment with "EXACTLY" and have absolutely no idea what the word means. You type "EXACTLY" and then argue every single point the person you're quoting stated.. The only time you should use "EXACTLY" is when you agree with the poster your quoting. As far as making in game adjustments it's impossible to do with most umpires because they don't know how to consistently call games. Besides a good pitcher won't give you a good pitch he'll just make you think he's throwing a good pitch. But I get it you know everything about nothing. Keep working on that use of the word "EXACTLY"... Some day you'll knock it out of the park. |
| Feb. 24, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: A wild suggestion for the 12 ft pitching height Yankeesfan12, while I agree with you that the idea of using a beeper isn't the best idea but this is one of the most laughable things I've seen written on here in a long time: If its not broke dont try and fix it, the umpires are not the problem there all human and do make mistakes which is all part of the game learn how to make adjustments in the batters box. The fact that you think umpires aren't part of the problem is absolutely ridiculous. The simple truth is MOST umpires have no clue was a 12' pitch looks like and even less know how to call it. Hell some of them can't even tell when the ball hits the mat let alone what height it came in at. Then you go on to say that a batter needs to learn how to make adjustments in the box. There isn't a batter alive that can make up for poor umpiring. You can't adjust to an ump that can't tell pitch heights.. They are paid to do a job and many put in the least amount of effort as possible then say things like I'm only one person after having never come out from behind the plate a single time during a game. Now that isn't saying it's all umps because it's not but overall the vast majority are so inconsistent at calling illegal pitches in not only sticking to a certain height but also calling it in a timely manner. Hell I've had umps call illegal as it's hitting the mat. It's not easy and I ump myself and make mistakes but at least I put in the effort, umps are paid pretty well for a part time job to not be better. |
| Feb. 20, 2025 JohnO28 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Team and individual players ratings From everything I'm told essentially player rankings don't really exist in black and white. The player ranking is based on what team they are playing for. If you're starting out your player ranking in AAA as long as you play for that team. If you jump up and play for a Major team then your ranking then becomes Major. You player ranking will be based on the level of the team you're playing on/played on. Unless youre a Major+ player then drop down as one of the 3 chips, you will still carry that Major+ ranking for 2 years from leaving the Major+ team. If you stay with the Major team after 2 full seasons your ranking will then be Major. As for the AAA players once they play on a Major team they are then considered Major players. I don't know exactly how many tourneys a AAA player must play on a Major team before that happens though. I've heard it only takes 1 tourney but have honestly seen it both way, not always enforced the same for everyone. Assuming some slip through the cracks. |
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