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Nancy Allen

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Aug. 20, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Jeffersonville Indiana Senior Softball

Thank you to everybody that has helped me with this. I have gotten to talk to a lot of interesting people, and of course talked about my favorite subject, senior softball. It is really nice to know how much is going on in the Louisville area. I still need a contact for St. Bernard if anyone can help me with that.
Aug. 20, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pitchers safety

Enzo19, at least SSUSA requires face protection and recommends other protective gear. Not all associations do that like you saw last weekend. I have to disagree on the batter hitting the middle though. I have seen too many times that with 2 strikes that the pitcher may throw a pitch to the outside, and those almost always go right back where they come from. Coachie ended up with stitches like that, and it was a friend of his that went for that pitch rather than taking strike 3. The flat pitch is also a little riskier of going back at the pitcher. I have never in senior softball heard anyone say anything that led me to believe that they intentionally hit the middle. Believe me I have heard young guys talk about buzzing the tower or watching your Chiclets or other sayings. I have never heard anything like that in senior softball. I also remember when SSUSA had a rule on the pitcher being hit, and I had it happen in a game which caused a dead ball situation, and he was mad because he thought that was making him just a stand there and look pretty field ornament rather than a defensive player and taking away his ability to make a double play. I understood what he meant. I would never pitch because I know that that I could not adequately protect myself or get the out. I do remember looking at statistics years ago, and most pitchers that got killed had it happen during batting practice probably because they are really comfortable and not in defensive mode, and batters hit pitches that they never would in a game situation. I also do not like the screen for pitchers that play tournaments because I think that they might have developed a false sense of safety or just forget that the screen is not there during tournament play.
Aug. 20, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitter Not Running

Looks like someone needs to learn how to use a Venn Diagram. Not all SSUSA representatives have journalism experience.
Aug. 20, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Rocky Mountain Less Than a Week Away

NYTX, there was a link below the flyer for Scrap Iron Softball, but I think that Ball4 has answered the questions. I would guess from what he said that you might use your own pitcher. Some of the younger guys here have hit those Launch softballs and said that they are extremely hot to hit. Have fun, and good luck on winning that.
Aug. 19, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Rocky Mountain Less Than a Week Away

NYTX, I looked on the tournament page. There are a couple of links on the left. My guess would be that since it says that the skills competition is sponsored by Scrap Iron Softball that maybe the contact in that link might be able to answer your questions.

Aug. 19, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitter Not Running

BJ, excellent point. You made me realize that I forgot that there were people who didn't know slow pitch softball reading. The jewelry rule that I referred to was only in force a couple of years in one major association. The rule as written and enforced was immediate ejection of any offensive or defensive player if we saw it. Yes, I thought that it was a stupid rule, and it caused lots of bad situations, but I enforced it because it was the rule. I have never said that I was a great umpire, and I don't remember you ever saying that you were. We both have excellent resumes, but we are not the ones tooting their own horn. I am proud of us for enforcing the rules as written. Anything else is imaginary. These associations work very hard on writing and changing rules, and rules are worked out in meetings with discussion. SSUSA has one of the better written rulebooks as there are people with journalism experience doing the writing and editing.
Aug. 19, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitter Not Running

BJ, there have been a lot of rules over the years that were written wrong or were maybe even just stupid, but you are correct that it is our job to call them exactly as they are written and not do our own thing. A good example is a major softball association recently changed a rule that if a runner is hit with a batted ball while on base that it is a live ball now. I hope that it never happens to me when calling one of their games. Someone gets hit with a ball, and now you want them to run? Crazy. They still have it as a dead ball out when the runner gets hit off the base. This was after I thought that they got smart by eliminating the courtesy foul which over all of their games that I did only wasted time and made for some dangerous foul ball hits. To be fair, the two other major associations had/have rules that I didn't think were right, a short lived automatic ejection jewelry rule and allowing metal cleats while advocating bat and ball safety. I still enforce those rules because my beliefs are not important, enforcing those rules as written is.
As far as the SSUSA rule that we are discussing, it would have to be submitted as a proposed rule change for it to be considered. Bringing up a dropped third strike in this discussion further illustrates a complete lack of understanding of slow pitch softball.
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Jeffersonville Indiana Senior Softball

I have information about the winter indoor league in New Albany, Indiana, and I have some initial contacts with the list that T.C.Sr provided. Apparently there are some players that are kind of playing in a circuit between some of the list above and Camp Taylor. I will keep working on this until I have information for any leagues that I have been given. If anyone has any organizer contacts for the churches above, that will help. I have been given a couple of clues but am not there yet. Are there any other senior leagues anywhere else in Kentucky besides the Louisville area?
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

DW_7, thank you for explaining that. You are correct that new teams start at AAA. I don't know how many are actually moved down after forming. I know of a few cases of teams that were moved down almost immediately, but I am most aware of what happens here in what we call the Midwest. I do know that teams from this area go to tournaments and often play AAA teams which is good for improving competitively, but often they win AA in a field of 1 - 3 teams. This is not much to brag about winning. That is the great thing about SSUSA; in their World Championships and a few other of their tournaments, there are more AA teams than those teams ever see anywhere else. I have lots of stories on this subject, but I know that SSUSA is the best for AA teams to compete in.
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: LONG ISLAND JAGUARS 75AAA

just joe, I am guessing that this is in response to what I asked you. I gave them your information to call you, and they know their current ratings. They are from Indiana, but they have played with Monkey Joe's in the past.
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

grayhitter59, I have to admire your compassion for a team that is not your own. Too many people only care about themselves; so this is a nice exception. Thank you. Also did you lose that fake Snowbird card? Have fun playing this game that we love so much.
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking for a 40+ team in northern California

I know that 47 is relatively "young" for some senior leagues, but sometimes locals are the best source of information. If you go to Leagues and click on California, there are many leagues listed, and some may be near you. Even if they are older guys, they might have sons your age and know of something going on with league or tournament teams. Also here in Indy some of the senior leagues allow a couple of 47 year olds, but they cannot use senior bats until they turn 50; so maybe there are provisions like that there as well. As far as tournament teams, you can go to Ratings and select 40+. Click the State column which will make it easier for you to read, and you can get some kind of idea of what teams are in your area. I wish you the best of luck.
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

MurrayW, thank you for explaining that. Perhaps DW_7 will give us his thoughts on the low end as well. I honestly have not followed what is going on in the Recreational tournaments and probably need to become better informed on that. My goals are to always be receptive to learning about this sport that we love and to increase participation. I am sure that I posted this before, but at the ISA Worlds, it made me feel really good to see guys that I got involved in senior softball. Yes, I recruit "old guys" out of league play. Timmy used to laugh that Coachie approved of me collecting phone numbers of guys for that purpose.
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: 75 year old players needed

Just joe, what is the team rating? I may know a couple of guys that might be interested, but I want to make sure of the level before I ask them about it. Thanks.
Aug. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitter Not Running

Stick8, in the scenario I gave, it was an NSA game. We had talked about that rule in clinics. After it happened I reviewed the rule again and talked with my UIC who verified that this was correct at that time (probably 20 years ago). I cannot say for sure that this was an ASA rule ever, but since NSA and SSUSA had/have it, I would guess that was where it originated but don't have an ASA rulebook that old to check that.

Perhaps this would be a good rule for someone to submit to the rules committee for a proposed change.
Aug. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitter Not Running

Stick8, as I recall it used to be in both ASA and NSA, I but checked both, and neither is worded that way now. I only had it happen once (last century). He thought that he hit it out. I just didn't think that it was going to make it. Bang, off the fence, he's in the dugout, dead ball, out.

BJ, thank you for pointing out again that we enforce the rules as they are written. Our personal feelings on a rule have zero bearing on making the correct call. The rules are the rules.
Aug. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

MurrayW, I agree with that. So could you tell me what you were thinking on the low end to increase participation? Thanks.
Aug. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

MurrayW, if I read his post correctly, I think that he means like a step down from AA like A or AA- or whatever you want to call it. DW_7, do you agree?
Aug. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hitter Not Running

Stick8, this is just a guess on my part because all associations used ASA as a "blueprint" when building their rules way back when, and I clearly remember when NSA did this too. I think that it was the becoming a baserunner instead of a batter-baserunner that was the intent, and that if you never attempted to go to 1B that you did not make that transition. Of course that was long ago and far away.
Aug. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

Benji4, thank you. I was pretty sure that it was the same team, but you know how official names are sometimes. I don't think that you actually said it, but you sounded like your team is now Major++ also. I was only aware of the one because my friend told me about their team. You are very fortunate to have a sponsor. When I first started playing (last century), companies were willing to sponsor teams at all levels, but with prices of leagues/tournaments/jerseys going up, and companies having to tighten their belts, it is really hard to find anyone willing to do that. I cannot tell you how many times Coachie and I made up the difference when there was not enough money put in by our team. We were very fortunate that Pike Collision paid for a few of our tournaments, and I always made sure to get the owner a shirt for appreciation. I like your attitude on playing within the constraints of the rules. That makes you a wise man because just complaining never does much constructive good. I hope that I get to watch your team play some day. It sounds like a good group. Good luck in your games.
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