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Nancy Allen

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Indianapolis, IN

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Men's 55

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Jan. 16, 2019
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 65+ any NY teams looking for players??

yankeeFAN, I remembered seeing this one a couple of months ago https://seniorsoftball.com/?messageboard&viewby_thread=151074&message_topic_id=wanted_players&keywordsfound=york
Jan. 10, 2019
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: drop down box for rules under the title TOURNAMENTS

I know that we talked about this a few other times. It just won't work on some devices; so enter https://seniorsoftball.com/?page=7, and you will see the rules page.
Jan. 9, 2019
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Moving back to the area, looking for a team

I a message out to a couple of coaches. Are you moving back soon?
Jan. 8, 2019
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Moving back to the area, looking for a team

MBIndiana, we have a couple of teams in Indiana that might work for you. Just so you know, there are also some leagues in Columbus and Shelbyville where you might also meet people. Do you have a thought on what level of team you are looking for?
Dec. 27, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Courtesy runner

No need to apologize. You started a couple of threads on rules that have been thoroughly explained to you numerous times but refuse to understand. So your goal is only to argue. I get it. If you were really serious about rules that everyone else comprehends when they read or have them explained to them, you might have been at the rules meeting or submitted a proposed rule change. Did you? You just like to argue what everyone else understands.

So scorekeepers are old bags, liars, and cannot write legibly? I am glad that you did not say that to me when I started scorekeeping for my wonderful senior softball husband when I was 40. Experienced umpires are yoyos? May I remind you that you are not an umpire?

Since you have zero respect for professionals or women, would you please just call me the name that you want to? It's ok; get to it.


Dec. 26, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Courtesy runner

BJ does it most correctly by making notes on the runners; I fail on the part of adding extra administrative work and time to the officiating job. I admit it. I make the runner and courtesy runner announce their numbers to me. I request it always and teach my umpires to do the same. I have called two out this year on the automatic out that it is (even if someone refuses to understand the printed words). One was as plate umpire, the other as base umpire. Hearing the numbers keeps my head in the game on it. I cannot ever remember calling one out on an appeal, but if the scorekeeper showed me a well kept book on it, I would give it to them. If the offensive coach had the nerve to lie to me, they deserve the out even more. So when you touch that bag as a courtesy runner and shouldn't, you are out on my field, guaranteed.

I was a scorekeeper for over 20 years for Coachie. I was in the dugout always because I was much more involved with the team than most scorekeepers. However that being said, some of the best scorekeepers that I have encountered sat somewhere between the bleachers and the backstop. I did get quite a few outs on the courtesy runners that the umpires didn't notice when I was a scorekeeper; I earned other outs for the team as well. I could show them with my book which was very detailed and accurate. Our players were not allowed to courtesy run unless they checked in with me. I take offense to anyone who insults scorekeepers or calls them she as a hidden sexist remark.

Dave, I totally agree on the "bs" out for the last one of the game. None of us like extra innings or IF games, but my ethics make me enforce the correct call. I actually have only been in that situation once, and the catcher caught it before I had to ponder on it; so it was the right call but a horrible ending to a game even though it was the correct call...another adult beverage story.

So on this thread, I have one giant lump of coal and a lot of good holiday wishes to those who actually understand and love the game.
Dec. 25, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: MERRY CHRISTMAS

Merry Christmas, Bruce!
Dec. 25, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: MERRY CHRISTMAS

Merry Christmas, Coach! Have a beer or five for your scorekeeper.
Dec. 21, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: co-ed

Marty, thank you for sharing that. Coachie could not get me out of the ballpark. He left me a legacy of softball for which I am grateful. He would have been 70 this year and too young to play with you. It is in the 40s today in Indiana. Warm winters are welcome up here where you and I are. I am not sure if I will ever be a snowbird. Merry Christmas, and keep your lovely wife happy.
Dec. 20, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: co-ed

Marty, that is kind of a cute angle on your part. In my experience softball has ruined more relationships than it has kept together. I was lucky with Coachie that we played together and coached together. It was very good for us. Good luck. The winters get pretty cold and lonely in Wisconsin for sure.
Dec. 17, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: co-ed

Hi, curty. Dave did post in the rules committee information above that SSUSA adopted ISA coed rules with the some revisions where appropriate. I did read a little about the games in Las Vegas and noted some differences relating mostly to ages. Dave could give a lot better answer. I have not had a lot experience with the coed.
Nov. 30, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Pahrump NV

If you click on Ratings above, click on the age group, and then click on the State heading to sort them, you can see the teams in Nevada. Since I am not sure where your town is without a map, hopefully you will see one or more teams close. Good luck.
Nov. 23, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking for Midwest 65 team

Is there a reason that you did not list Illinois? I may know a team from there that I can talk with.
Nov. 19, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BJ

I think that the response of "I've got nothing" is perfect from someone that is not an umpire, doesn't umpire, and has zero slow pitch experience. Acknowledging the delayed dead ball is all that is necessary unless something needs to be done. Signaling the delayed dead ball is sufficient. All of those extras mentioned are totally not necessary. The play is not completed; so why signal safe or say a bunch of totally unnecessary words? I keep my arm outstretched the entire time until I call time. Umpires don't need to be noisy in an obstruction situation; interference they do.
Nov. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BJ

BJ, so she potentially made one mistake? I do make mistakes, but I try to use those as learning opportunities. I have no problem admitting when I make one. I emphasize to my umpires to be approachable. I also encourage them to do coed league games because if something odd is going to happen, you will see it there. I tell them if they are learning and make a call that they are not sure of to look it up afterwards to learn what is correct, also to talk about it with us old "guys". It is better to boot it there than in a major tournament later.
Nov. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BJ

BJ, spot on as usual. I am sorry if I didn't pick the rules out that you posted, but with all of the "static" in that thread, I think that it is understandable. I am here to learn and educate not to fight like "a girl".

The rules always say He because we girls never make those mistakes base running or fielding...really. ;-)
Nov. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BJ

Coop, I always like talking softball with you. In my scenario if he had continued to 2B, I would most likely have had him out. With 58 feet to go, proceeding to 2B is not the best decision even with obstruction. I had him safe back to 1B if tagged.

I don't know if you saw my post about Johnny G. He passed recently and is how I got into umpiring. I learned a lot from Johnny because I didn't always agree with his methods which is what got me into umpiring (a good adult beverage tale). If the ball beat the runner, the runner was always out even if the runner was clearly in contact with the bag...vicinity. Of course the best part was his comment which you will never catch me saying. "You are out, and you are stupid for going the extra base." You had to love him though.

Neck10, yes, that was the umpire in the gate incident. You were his last senior softball game. He said that he had it after that one.

Garocket, I will pull my USA Softball rulebook. I do not remember a rule change, but my memory is not what it used to be.
Nov. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: BJ

stick8, I respectfully disagree. I will use an example of my thought. I have obstruction, delayed dead ball signaled. The runner starts to break for 2B and goes about 12'. He turns around and runs back to 1B because the ball is close. I have him protected to 1B. If he gets tagged there before getting back to 1B, he is safe in my judgement unless there is any other strong evidence against that in what I observe. People always ask in obstruction if they get the next base. They do not; it is not an awarded situation. It is only in the umpire's judgement (which at times might be questionable for any of us) what base the runner is protected to.
Nov. 16, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Obstruction

BJ, the only thing that I have ever seen you wrong about was that high school players only average 70 - 75 MPH in their pitching throws. 90 - 95 is incorrect. I do not believe that this individual was ever really an umpire very long or at any level. I love baseball but don't care about it in relation to senior softball. His professionalism is very questionable. If this is a more disparaging remark than what he has called you, Dave, or me, then I am willing to be banned. You are really good in my book. You explain rules and situations very concisely and in an easy to understand manner. I am surprised that you listened to it this long. He is consistently argumentative and often wrong. I don't want him near my umpires or yours. Moderator of an officiating forum? Poor guys. I am extremely approachable as an official. While I use more words to explain rules than you do (one of the things that I admire about you), you and I both have excellent resumes spanning several decades, and we actually umpire. We are both known for being approachable and helpfule. I am beyond even giving my opinions on rules with this kind of Gary19 on here. I have NEVER learned anything from him except the patience not to retaliate when I was called undeserved names in front of thousands of people. You are what all umpires should strive for in understanding and enforcing the rules of our game. You have my respect.
Nov. 14, 2018
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: out of play

grayhitter59, do you really believe that the runner intentionally let the ball hit him in the head to be safe or get an extra base? The runner has the right to the base path unless a fielder has or is fielding the ball to make a play. So I guess that you are trying to equate this situation to interference? I didn't see the play, but in my mind if a runner gets hit in the head by a throw that is most likely neither interference nor a great throw. I can tell that you are passionate about what you believe, but the defense caused the situation by throwing the ball and hitting the offense in the head. Was the player hit in the head with a hard throw alright?

Neck10, once you have already established a base, the direction that you are running does not make a difference. It was one of our local director's favorite clinic situations. I hope to catch up with you next year. Butch continues to improve.
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