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Nancy Allen

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Indianapolis, IN

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, July 26, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: 65 AAA Outfielder

I have a friend who is a coach that wants to attend the World Masters Championships in Las Vegas. He is one outfielder short of being able to do that. He asked for my help, and I have come up short with my resources here. He would make the arrangements with the office, but what he is needing is a man eligible to play outfield as a 65 AAA that would be available for Las Vegas. You must live in Illinois or one of the states that border it. You can call me at 317-372-1234 if this would be something that would interest you. I can give you details and put you in touch with him. Thank you.
, July 24, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pictues/Articles of my son...

OldTimes, if you cannot find it, we can talk offline. It looks like any of us on it can invite new members. My husband played and coached for years in the same area and was friends with Roger New. I have a very funny Riverside Paving story from a tournament in Seymour. I wish you well. It is good to keep our lost ones alive in this way.
, July 22, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pictues/Articles of my son...

There is a Facebook group called Softball Community Talk, and I know that many of the guys on there played for or against those teams, and they share old pictures in it. Since I know those teams listed well, I probably met your son before. You are in my prayers.
, July 19, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule Joke

DBurke23, I know that I have seen it in baseball and fastpitch softball, but it was just too funny for the coach to try and tell me that this was a SSUSA rule; he should have picked a different association to blame this on. Then especially to say out west when who knows when the last time they played west of the Mississippi was.

Neck10, I missed you so much at the Brickyard. I actually did think about you because I was not at Midwest, but a thrown ball wedged into the bottom of the gate where I was. The 1st baseman held his hands up wanting a ground rule double. After time was called we had a nice discussion on how the ball was playable, could pick it right up. It was not outside the field, and a poorly thrown ball is never a basis for a ground rule double. I wish that you had been there. Where are you playing in the next few months? I would like to try and catch up with you and your guys.

I love this game.
, July 19, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Calling time out

JJ, thank you that makes sense if you are player/volunteer umpires and not formally trained. As a base umpire, you should never be the one to call time. My partner and I will slightly raise one hand for the partner at the plate to know that there is nothing going on where we are at. The plate umpire sees the entire field, and they should be the only one to call time except in the situation that I described above when they cover 3rd. Everything that BJ said is also correct. Have fun.
, July 18, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Calling time out

JJ, this would probably be a good one to talk about, and if you like, I would be glad to discuss it with you. I do have a couple of thoughts though. I am curious why the plate umpire is not calling time. In our mechanics, the base umpire only calls time when the plate umpire goes to third, and base umpire covers home based on where the tailing runner is at. There are some players that always call for time; I will not call time until the ball is in someone's possession in or close to the infield, and runners are not moving. This does not work 100% of the time but is my thinking of when to call time. I am curious why you mention the pitcher. In slow pitch there is no need for it to be in the pitcher's possession to call time. I work with 10 year olds in slow pitch, and I stress to the coaches that as long as they run it in that there is no need for it to go to the pitcher. A throw in 10s can start total chaos; so even if an outfielder runs it in, there is less chance of problems than trying to throw it to the pitcher. Anyway that is my take, and if you want to discuss it, just let me know, and you can call me.
, July 18, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Western Nationals

...and our coed rec league starts at 5:30. Oh, you will not be able to play your championship game after all. Dave, you're the best. I know that you saved our bacon earlier this year. Thank you for all that you do.

, July 18, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Equalizers

DCPete, I have seen leagues here make the better team bat off handed (the opposite of the way that they normally bat). I did have a league situation once where a men's team from one diamond and a coed team from another diamond both had forfeits, and I offered to do a combined game for them (I think this is important when they pay $3 to get in the gate). The men's team was being gentle but was way too much for the coed team. So the coed team had 18 in their dugout. I asked the men's coach if he cared if all of them played the field. They all had fun, and you would not believe the number of double takes from players walking past the diamond. "What is going on?". So perhaps if you could allow the weak team an extra infielder and outfielder that might help too defensively.
, July 18, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule Joke

Mine was 83 and sunny. I know in wet conditions that I have told players to be careful on the bags, but I believe that I have only ever told anyone to not touch anything but the plate because they can become like ice in that situation, and I can see it clearly in a one ump situation. The car, thank you, we all know that it was a pretty weak attempt from a team that is from way east of the Mississippi that almost never travels west. Omar, I am pretty confident. Bruce, I have often thought about writing a book of all of the funny things that I have encountered over the years, but softball players probably wouldn't read it. Yes, your game in Georgia that I officiated would definitely have a couple of paragraphs. God bless the Pensacola Hitmen and that experience. Never has a team accidentally found so many technical outs. I do have a title, Sliding into Third. We can talk about that choice in a non-public forum the next time we meet up.

I love this game.
, July 17, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule Joke

Omar, thank you, that is wicked awesome compliment.
, July 17, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule Joke

Omar and B.J., that is interesting to extend it to the runners too and probably only fair given the coach's logic. I don't ever try to be rude to players, but if I was, I guess that I could have explained that as a girl that I have no idea what 6 inches is. By the way, he was more than 6 inches inside the bag.

If anyone suggests bigger bags as a rule change, it did not come from me. I just could not believe the coach was trying to pin this on SSUSA to me. Let's just say the team was from east of Indiana; so I am at a loss how they came up with that given that they only go west maybe once a year.
, July 17, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule Joke

I am mostly posting this for the amusement of Dave, but I think that quite a few others might find this amusing or possibly even want to argue the point for fun. I was doing bases in a game, and the 11th fielder clearly missed the bag at second, no foot swipe, just stood to the inside of the bag and threw the ball to first. So I called the runner safe at second. During the half inning, the coach came over to me, and he said that he was not going to argue that his player did not touch the bag, but he said the reason that the runner should have been out was because SSUSA out west gives the fielder six inches on any side of the bag, vicinity, to get the force out. I did not give him my resume, but I told him that I really was not too interested in what he perceived other umpires as doing or their rules, but if he ever saw me in a game that the fielder would have to touch the bag to get the out. I was polite but fairly amused by the premise that he presented. I would love to hear what SSUSA umpires out west think too.

...and you thought that you had an interesting day. At least I got a thank you from the runner because the fielder was not ever on the bag or near it. Fortunately he continued to the bag and didn't give up.
, May 25, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Got It Wrong - Loudoun VA

B.J., thank you. I already knew that I could not change anyone's opinion. I think the rule books are all fine as they stand. This hardly ever occurs, and all of the information is there if used correctly. You are right, and I admire pull and place hitters too. My dear Coachie's natural swing was to the left side, but he always placed the ball on the right instead. Crackerjack06 had probably the finest point on this about umpires not knowing rules or showing disrespect to players and coaches. The first could be helped by umpires attending clinics or having discussions with each other on situations or rules. Disrespect is an entirely different matter.

Yes, I have heard the joke swinging bunt when the ball ends up in front of the plate. If someone finds it in an actual rule book, I owe them an adult beverage and some good softball discussion.

Nancy
, May 25, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Got It Wrong - Loudoun VA

Gentlemen, thank you for validating for me again that there is nothing that a person with experience can say to change someone's mind on what I call heart rules because people have beliefs that are stronger than the facts. So a few more comments and you are more than welcome to argue with me if it happens on my field. I am very approachable. You are more than welcome to call me if you want to continue this discussion. Umpire clinics are valuable for helping understand these types of situations. Perhaps you could attend one and ask about this.

There is no such thing as a swinging bunt. Bunts are when the batter squares up and does not swing the bat. A half swing is not defined. This is true in any slow pitch rules that I have ever dealt with which includes probably anything that you could name. A slap hitter is a very smart and talented batter. I wish that I could have seen both situations, but from the descriptions both sound like a slap hitter. There are not very many of them, but they have a special talent and should not be penalized for that. I admire their skill.

That all being said in both slow and fast pitch breaking the wrists is used as a guideline for umpires. Guideline means that you will never find that language in a rule book, nor does it need to be there. Remember that a full swing is not defined, nor does it need to be (except for people who do not understand what a bunt is). Most of us use both entire arms in a swing. Very few of us have mastered slap hitting, but there is always someone in a game that thinks this is cheating somehow. I will think of you and smile fondly the next time that I have one on my field.

Have good games. Enjoy your season. Play like every at bat is your last because at our age it could be.

Nancy
, May 24, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Got It Wrong - Loudoun VA

Crackerjack06, I am sorry about how the umpires reacted. This falls into the category that I call heart rules because some people get really upset and cannot understand the scenario. I usually stay away from these discussions because I know that there is nothing that I can say to change the person's opinion. However, your last post had some inconsistencies that send up a red flag. What you describe as a girls' bunted ball is not quite correct. That is a person squaring up and not swinging the bat. This would be an immediate dead ball out in slow pitch. In my 30 years of softball, I have never seen a truly chopped ball although I have seen some desperate 2 strike swings that came close. What I am reading is about a perfect slap hitter. I admire them because they place the ball well and get on a lot. You will notice in discussions that a full swing is not defined. A batter can turn over their wrists, and it is a swing. Not many people can develop this batting skill, and often people playing against them get mad about it. You are correct that they often walk a little which is fine if they do not step completely out of the box. All the ones that I have seen stayed in. I think that it would almost impossible to walk on a bunt. Remember they square up and don't swing the bat. Bunts are not judged by the distance that they travel. 63 feet is probably much further than a bunt travels even men's fast pitch which I have watched here.

You are right about Tim being an awesome director.

Have a great season.

Nancy
, May 9, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Team rating Question?

Having run a team before, I can offer some advice. If you are a coach, and this applies to your team, call George, and give him details. If you are a random coach, player, or bystander, I would keep it to myself or only talk about with your local buddies. Speculating in a public forum on social media often has volatile results. Good luck wherever you play.
, Dec. 5, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

Since the parks here play Utrip, I know that even they eliminated the extra foul a couple of years ago.
, Dec. 5, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Sad news from Indy...Phil Grimpe

Mel, thanks. I have been out of town and had not heard this. I looked up the link to his obituary if anyone wants it. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/indystar/obituary.aspx?n=phillip-arthur-grimpe&pid=182972834&fhid=11921 Phil started playing 45s at Metro with Coachie right after he moved here and was on our senior team for a while. He also mowed grass for Coachie at the park. I am glad to see that you are still beating the odds and always look forward to seeing you.
, Aug. 17, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Retirement Ceremony?

I have never seen a retirement ceremony but have seen celebrations of life, marriage proposals, and weddings on the diamond. Relevant items were placed on home plate, first base, or the outfield depending on the event. I have had requests that I have honored before for me to ring up a player on strike 3 or to eject them posthumously. Either of those might be appropriate for retirement. I wish them well. Just have fun with it. I am sure that it would mean a lot to all involved.
, May 1, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

titanhd, they worked on the fields after the 1:00 AM finish and have been working like zombies all week. We did look in the small garage for anything like that. They don't have squeegees but use some kind of absorbent pillows. All of that equipment is in the big barn across the parking lot. The grounds crew took a couple of hours to rest until the diamonds were firm enough to support dragging. I hear the equipment doing diamonds between games now. Sorry, I am really proud of them for all that they have done on a challenging five days. I wish you the best of luck in your games. I compliment your team and the others for great play this weekend.
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