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Nancy Allen
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| April 7, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How would you call this one? Neck10, well, you hid from me when I was in Michigan, but in your defense, there were no gates. Miss you. My best one on this was Sunday afternoon men's league. The runner stayed on 3B. The runner from 2B hits the inside of 3B (who does that?) and heads for home. I call him out. What? I motioned him over to me and had him look at 3B. You just passed and didn't notice a 220 pound man; so do you want to talk about my judgement or yours? I love this game. |
| April 2, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: New rules and changes Now this is one of the reasons that I love you guys and consider you framily. |
| April 1, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: New rules and changes Webbie25, you know that there are some people who don’t know how to use a calendar that will get high blood pressure over this. Let the debates begin. 😉 |
| March 27, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Cancellation of Tournaments due to weather IDon'tKnow3rdBase, the tournament that they mentioned does not show as a TOC event. TOC will be in front of the tournament name in the list above if is one. |
| March 27, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Grayhitter59, is there pessimist baseball? The catcher should have extended her arm to get the out of the base path call. At least there with these kids no one probably went running to a director. Maybe a valuable lesson learned if anyone is thinking about it. My dear friend Johnny G used to call a game for travesty about once a month. I suspect because he would rather have a chili cheese dog than officiate the rest of the game. I dearly miss him, but I learned a lot from him and taught me to do the opposite. Never once have I said "You are out and stupid for trying to push it to 2nd". If I ever do that, I am officially done in my mind. |
| March 26, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Grayhitter59, I saw this play this morning and thought about this discussion. I will bet that no one cried verbal interference on this and definitely isn’t someone calling a word from the dugout. https://www.wsaz.com/video/2023/03/23/video-softball-player-creatively-evading-catcher-goes-viral Look over there. |
| March 25, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching Net BJ, I think that your rules are well thought out which is what you do. I am pleased that you referenced what the outcome of hitting the screen on a thrown ball would be. I do agree that it is for the pitcher’s safety, and they should get behind it and eliminate themselves as a fielder. I have concerns about the screen for anyone that uses it in leagues that also plays tournaments. I worry that they are conditioning themselves to be too relaxed after pitching a ball and worry about their safety. Part of this probably comes from a few decades ago when a young pitcher was killed by a hit ball in a league game here. We did a lot of research at that time and found that more pitchers died during batting practice with their teams than during play. I suspect that part of this is because the players swing at pitches that would not normally but also because the pitchers are more relaxed. I won’t talk on here about that incident because there are people still emotionally charged about it. A friend of mine was umpiring the game and believe him. My point though is because of that research, I worry about any time that a pitcher is too relaxed that their safety may be compromised. |
| March 25, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Grayhitter59, my stupid joke has always been that they need a glove on their foot when they have a boot on their hand. Boot to you as well. 😎 |
| March 24, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching Net B.J., in the leagues that I have seen, the ball hitting the screen is either a dead ball strike or dead ball out depending on the league. I think that the latter is a little harsh unless it is already the 3rd strike. |
| March 24, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Well, gentlemen, I won't say what my words always were, but if anyone comes to me and says that the offense yelling tricycle made the left fielder miss the ball after it had already passed them, I promise not to say what I am thinking to them. |
| March 23, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Grayhitter59, just remember that putting anything on the message board does not mean that will get an official answer. I know that Dave likes to answer these, but he has a tournament situation that is probably taking more than most of his time. Interference is one of those things that I call heart rules because people tend to get pretty bent over them. Honestly when I read this and your explanation, I had the opposite view that for someone to say that a ball wasn’t fielded because someone said boot in the dugout was kind of lame. I know that you were in the dugout and not in their face. I am pretty noisy during a game. I hope that no one ever thought of me as being bush league for that. Again Tim and I had different takes on it just reading about it. If we had seen/heard the situation, maybe either of us would change our mind. Maybe you should think about writing something up for consideration by the rules committee since it sounds like you have had this issue before which might settle it for you finally. Best wishes. |
| March 20, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Well, I obviously wasn't there, and I have zero idea what the person that went to the director said to them. Neither that director or I saw or heard any of it. What I will say is that I would back the umpire. If they did not think that it was anything, then I have to side with them. The word verbal is in the rulebook twice pertaining to verbal statements which are not recognized officially, and verbally once for complaints (applies to SSWC only). In the 2022 and 2023 rules summaries, the word verbalized is in them in regards to umpires calling illegal pitches. There are some things about artificial noise makers, but the last time I checked you sound and look real. Have a good season. |
| March 20, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Thank you for the rest of the story. I was having a really hard time imagining what the supposed outcome was of that with the few details given. So you were on the offense, and they actually tried to say that you yelling boot caused him to not field the ball. That really does not make any sense at all then. A fielder does not miss a ball because someone yells boot, bull, tricycle, whatever. Yes, you have been doing that and playing quite a while. |
| March 20, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Verbal Interference Well, I was always a noisy scorekeeper and catcher and was definitely never called on me. Of course I never said anything that should have made a difference in play. I am going to guess that the person in the dugout was offense and not defense? Not being judgmental, but that is definitely not the worst thing that I ever heard. Are you saying that the batter stopped running because they heard that? I certainly never called anyone on it in the games that I have done but also do not have rabbit ears. I did have a coach lose it once when I was at the plate. The ball was a dribbler towards 1B. It hit 1B player's cleat and went slowly towards 2B. I am pointing fair (my joke as loud as I can pointing with both hands). Someone yells foul ball. The SS was a smart man and watching me. He runs and grabs the ball and stomps 1B for the out called by my partner. The offensive coach comes flying out of the dugout. You yelled Foul ball. Sir, does my voice sound like a man's? Well, then your partner did. No, sir, it is not his call, and he didn't. Well, something needs to be done. Yes, I agree. Would you please go talk to your 3B coach and let him know that yelling that caused you an out? The expressiona and reaction were priceless. |
| March 3, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: 16' inch Tournament Arizona Just a thought, the person posting asked to contact them at an E-mail address. Did anyone follow that contact instruction? With only 2 posts, they are not a regular poster. That is certainly an interesting place for 16” softball. I like watching it in the Chicago area. |
| Feb. 15, 2023 Nancy Allen | Topic: Bats Discussion: For Dave Dowell This site has lots of information, and if you look at Bat Policy above, you should have all of the information available that you need. Since you did not list a manufacturer, model, etc, more information would be needed, but you have all of the information now. |
| Dec. 26, 2022 Nancy Allen | Topic: Players looking to join a team Discussion: 65 over leagues Did you look at the Leagues link above? I do not know how accurate it is for California. I try to keep the one in my area up to date but is a moving target. |
| Dec. 21, 2022 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Moving from Volunteer Umpires to Paid Umpires in our recreational yet competitive Senior Softball League Dave, thank you, much better than me trying to paraphrase what my accountant said. I know that you know this field most likely better than anyone else on this board given your background. Basically nobody rides for free when it comes to getting paid. Appreciate you. |
| Dec. 21, 2022 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Moving from Volunteer Umpires to Paid Umpires in our recreational yet competitive Senior Softball League Dave, thank you. I know given your background that you give the legally correct answers. I also know that you "appreciate" the situations here. You know that my area of expertise is definitely in another field. Stick8, there really is no such thing as tax free money. I will tell you what my accountant says and would value Dave's input as well. The IRS only knows about money that get a 1099 or W-2 for. So you have to file on those. Other money such as cash is considered taxable, but a person makes the choice if they do not file it. If the IRS finds out about it somehow, then there is no argument with them that is tax free. I go with my accountant's advice in what I do on my business of softball and do file all of my expenses. Lots of umpires get into trouble because they do not do what they need to with the money earned umpiring and can tell lots of stories about that of others' situations. Just take good care of you in the situation, and be careful in categorizing some payments as tax free. Merry Christmas to all from the smallest but maybe loudest umpire. |
| Dec. 18, 2022 Nancy Allen | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Moving from Volunteer Umpires to Paid Umpires in our recreational yet competitive Senior Softball League Dave, this is more for you than anyone else especially because you understand taxes and know the park here that starts these trends. So what they are doing here is to charge the players the umpire fees. Then before the game, the managers have to go to the office to collect their fee to pay the umpires. So the park gets out of the tax business, and the umpires are basically being paid cash. As an umpire I do not like it and rarely do those games. I do not like having to chase both coaches down to get money before can start a game (I could list all of the side issues). Also I may be one of the few that actually runs mine as a business with reporting and expenses. I do NOT recommend this as a way to pay umpires but know that you would appreciate this. |
