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Horace "Jeff" Jefferson

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Palatka, FL

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Men's 50

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Feb. 16, 2017
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: A True Equalizer

SSUSA Staff,

Thank you for getting involved in the discussion. As I stated, my discussion was not of a whining purpose; I was just pointing out something that I had been pondering. Now that I know that this has been discussed and apparently corrective suggestions have not been presented properly, I will do so in accordance with the directives you've stated. Again, thank you for informing us (ME).

Horace Jefferson

Feb. 15, 2017
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: A True Equalizer

It's been awhile since I've responded to or got involved with any of the conversations. And this my brothers, if I recall correctly, is the first time that I have initiated a conversation. Here goes!

Like most of us, I started playing senior softball when I became eligible. I have been very blessed to have played with some great players at the highest level on 50 and 60 teams. We, Hollis Appraisals, won the triple crown last year. As you are probably aware, we won the 2017 TOC. There aren't many teams in the 60 Major Plus class in the country, which brings me to my discussion - A TRUE EQUALIZER.

During the 1980's and 90's, Pittsburg, KS, had its annual JOCK NITCH USSSA tournament. It was called an equalizer. It was a great tournament. The higher class team had to give runs to the lower class team as done in senior ball today. However, there were other rules that were enforced. The lower class team would always be the visiting team, the lower class team would be required to use their homerun limit while the higher class team had theirs, and the higher class team could not be run ruled. To me, that's equalizer!

Im not whining; I'm just pointing out something. Senior softball seems to put the higher class team in a somewhat inferior position. Equality isn't really there. The higher team is faced with a double whammy--not only are they giving up runs or playing against an extra fielder but also giving up homeruns that they could potentially hit.

I wonder what the outcome would be in the preliminary games if these rules or concessions were allowed. JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

Aug. 18, 2015
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Favorite Baseball Movie

Hector, I was about to list two movies. "Bang the Drum Slowly" was one. You beat me to the punch; it could be considered a tearjerker, but it is an awesome movie. That was a good choice! The other movie I really enjoyed was "The Stratton Story". In case none of you have seen this movie, it was about Monty Stratton, an amputee pitcher. The movie featured James Stewart and June Allyson. I just love that pair together. I can hear her in every movie saying, "honestly". It's a classic!
Dec. 8, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What are some of your favorite Famous quotes, lines or sayings?

Just a few quotes that I like.....Each day before my basketball practice, I give my players a thought for that particular day. The one I used today (December 8, 2008) was by Dwight Eisenhower....."The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." As Jimmy Valvano said...never give up; never give up!

Here's another by Plato.....Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something.
Oct. 28, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: dead ball out

Pitcher......I was teaching my english class while I be typing hahahaha
Oct. 28, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: dead ball out

Dr. Einstein,

I just read your post. I think playing with a screen would be ideal. If the ball hits the screen, it should be a dead ball. This may sound crazy but it could possibly be a ground ruled single or an out.

Dirty, this is senior ball. For obvious reasons, players reflexes have diminished. Yes, a picture should be able to field his or her position. We must be realistic too.
Sept. 22, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: new Manceko senior combat

Joe,

Yes, I have finally recovered from Cincy. Playing there was like attending a family reunion. It was awesome. Like I said earlier, it's always a thrill exchanging words with you. I also enjoy watching you between the lines. You are one heck of a ball player.

You are right, I am an easy going guy but taking crap is not on my agenda. I would say that I can throw down with words or a little physical activity hahahaha.

As for your weekend with the Stoneman, I wish I could have been there. As I said, I think I am going to have to plan a weekend to SF, and perhaps the Stoneman can be there too. We could hit some balls and have a few adult freshing beverages. If that's not to your taste, you can drive and watch me and the Stoneman.

I will not be in Phoenix. I will be putting my attention towards another sports between the lines......BASKETBALL. No, I don't play. I am the coach. I haven't ran down a court for a loooooooooooong time.

I love the way you stay on top of things when it comes to softball. You always have words WORTH reading.

Ho J
Sept. 22, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: new Manceko senior combat

Dirty,

Your comments remind me of two people. One is Spike Lee; he would always heckle Reggie Miller when the Pacers played the Knicks in the Garden. The other is that heckler who sat behind the Bullets' bench. That's okay; this is a free world. I think your comments are quite comical.

On a serious note, I do believe that 90+ percent of the players have concerns about the opposing pitcher's welfare. Contrary to one's belief, there aren't very many balls that are hit up the middle in senior ball. During the course of the game, one may see maybe 5-8 balls that are hit up the middle in Major Plus. If both teams have a combined total of 60 at bats, you are talking about an .08 - .13 chance of getting hit. That's not too high of a risk. Let me make this clear; I am talking about 5-8 balls total.

Also, I am not that much into NASCAR, but as the cars got faster, more equipment was needed. People talk about HOT cars daily.

I am sure you understand the importance of competing. I have read many of your posts, and I don't think you would drive a Pinto in the Indy 500.
Sept. 10, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Black World in Cincinnati

Joe,

Yes, Reedus is a very crafty pitcher. I can imagine what it's like to face Randy Johnson. Reedus pitches from the front of the rubber, and I stand in front of the plate. Heck, we could have reached out and touched hands. Something I hate because of our body lengths. However, I did survive his antics.

Joe, I used a 26 oz launch. I have not used the newest model as yet. It seems to work for me.

Joncon, I hope my reply didn't come off as if I felt that someone was bashing the worlds. I didn't take it that way at all. I was trying to shed a little light on a question that have been asked many times. It's like having a great block party with some great softball.

Back to my man Einstein, I don't know whether I will be in Phoenix; it would be nice though.
Sept. 9, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Black World in Cincinnati

"The atmosphere was friendly, warm, colorful and lively and made me wish more senior events were, too." Those were the words of Joe/Einstein. It was great seeing you. I wish I had a hairdo like the one you have lol.

Hopefully, I can shed a little light on the Black Worlds and their purpose. It is my opinion that Wagon487 seems to think that it's about exclusion. If that was the case, Einstein, Gary Deaton, Baer Chandler, Patty Mac, just name a few would not have been there. The tournaments are about inclusion. Actually, they are like fraternity and sorority parties with invited guest. The music is constantly going; the food is incredible, and the socialization is fantastic. Like I said, it's like an awesome party with great softball.

I can recall being invited to play in an Hispanic National Tournament in Colorado some years ago. I HAD A BLAST!

I really do believe that the tournaments were designed to get more African-American involved in the sport. Again, it's all about inclusion.

Don't forget that October is Hispanic Heritage Month.
Sept. 3, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: Bats
Discussion: New Combat Macenko Model

Walk,

When I read "I heard clear back here in KC.....", I made the assumption it was Bruce Walker (Tippy) as I once called him. If so, drop me a line at coachjefferson22@hotmail.com. I would love to chat with you. It's been years, but I remember the days.
June 23, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Description of a Major Plus Player.

Genius Einstein,

Thanks for taking the time to read my post. There were some things that could have been written differently. I will blame that on the cognac hahahaha. Hollis' plan is to play in Tulsa next month. I am looking forward to the tournament and seeing my new friends.

Have you seen the Stoneman?
June 22, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Description of a Major Plus Player.

I have read only a few of the post regarding placing limitations on the Major Plus division. Some have stated that disrupting a team/friendship is the result of a team moving up. It has probably been stated in one of the earlier responses, but teams have always been bumped up when they won a national tournament the previous year in the organization. If I recall correctly, Lilly Air won the 1984 ASA Major and had to play in the ASA Super the next year. I don't remember their results, but some of there games weren't pretty. Perhaps, those teams that have been bumped could bite the bullet for one year, and if they find themselves to not be competitive, they could asked for a review.

Yes, playing in tournaments with few teams does get to be repetitive. HOWEVER, the tournaments usually features the best of the best. Isn't that what competition is all about? I don't think that the ORGANIZATION would bump up a team if that team had not proven that they could be competitive at the next level. We see colleges all of the time go from NCAA Division I to Division II. Yes, that is their choice, but they still have prices to pay. To much is given, much is required. If a team gets bumped changes must be made. They don't have to happen immediately. Who knows, REAL COMPETITORS level of play will increase if they are playing against higher caliber players.

Back to the friendship disruption, new friendships may develop. Yes, I know that we are old as dirt, but you can never have enough friends. I am very fortunate; I like everyone one of my teammates. WE ALL GET ALONG. I have also played on teams where guys went their separate ways, but we had one common goal.....A CHAMPIONSHIP. This may sound callous, but if you are in it to socialize and have fun, don't play competitive softball. I do barnstorm on Sunday evenings with some buddies when I am not playing for a CHAMPIONSHIP; that's when I get to socialize.

Major Plus softball is designed for competitiveness. There is some socialization that takes place. Being that we are in our 50's plus, hopefully, you will remember this commercial. MAKE FRIENDS WITH KOOL AID, MAKE KOOL AID MAKE FRIENDS. I can't understand how a player or team that moves up can suggest rule changes, especially those requiring limitations.

Let's play slowpitch. If you don't want to score runs and hit homeruns, there's a game called fast pitch.

By the way, I am 6'5", 208 pound guy who can run and hit (most of the time). I am not a brut who can only hit the long ball. As a matter of fact, I was cut from a team because SOME didn't think that I had enough power. However, some of those same guys realized that I could produce. Again, let's play the game without limitations.
April 3, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Movie Trivia 7

It's about 1:30 a.m. eastern, and I am watching Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison on AMC. Go figure.
April 3, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Movie Trivia 7

Ken, you are correct. .....I'm a zit A Z I T. I have been wrong before; you may be correct. I will watch it again soon.

Ken, you are now hurling.
April 3, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Movie Trivia 7

Dbax, you are close but no cigar.
April 3, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Movie Trivia 7

Hopefully, I can talk about a movie that has already been discussed. Animal House.....one of the funniest I have ever seen.

There's a scene in an eating establishment where Belushi is stuffing his face grossly with food. The sorority girl tells him, "you are a pig...A P I G"; Belushi stuffs an egg in his mouth and pushes his cheeks. He said, "what am I now.....A Blank a blank blank blank".

Fill in the blanks
April 1, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Movie Trivia 7

Ken, your movie is Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison.
March 26, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: oppinion senior game hitting or fielding

Jawood, thank you for clarifying the percentage. However, 51% is still a little high. But, I looking at the map and where are you are from, I can see why our opinions differ. You are on the west coast, and I am on the east coast.....Left Coast vs RIGHT coast.....just kidding.

I hope our teams do get an opportunity to compete against each other. I am sure the teams will put on a show. Tell me, are you a catcher or extra hitter? I hope you found humor in that question. Also, what division do you participate?
March 25, 2008
Cognac Lite
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: oppinion senior game hitting or fielding

It's been some time since I have been to this site. Things have been pretty busy down here in the Cool, literally, Sunshine State. I couldn't resist expressing my opinion on this particular subject.

Jawood's comment really tickled me. I couldn't stop laughing. "Most players who think otherwise hit about .500 with no power." Most means majority. That's pretty far out there. If a team hits and make the routine plays, at some point during the game a player will come up with a big defensive play. That team usually wins the game. Usually, a BIG HIT comes after a poor defensive play.

If a team can't field, the 1/2 inning is extended. The gap usually widens which allows hitters to free swing---NO PRESSURE.

Jawood, there are teams that can hit the crap out of the ball. However, if you can't get anybody out, you may not get a chance to hit. I would much rather play on a team that can do both. It's very depressing watching an inning being extended because of poor fielding.

I am fortunate; I have the opporunity to play with guys who possess both skills.

Oh yea! They do hit for power....I AM TALKING ABOUT BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In order to win, you must hit. In order to win championships, you must do both and do both well.
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