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| July 22, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: What's the call? Fair ball!! |
| July 20, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How to call a tag play when view is obstructed Nancy what both you and BJ correctly point out dovetails into another issue that I sometimes encounter. Rookie and newer umpires who are players commonly make the mistake of thinking like a player instead of thinking like a umpire. A lot of times they get themselves in trouble doing that. Experience is the only teacher formthst. |
| July 20, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How to call a tag play when view is obstructed BJ, he did come out. Whether he looked back to see if the runner that came in from third touched home I couldn’t say. |
| July 19, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How to call a tag play when view is obstructed BJ, I should have stated there was a runner on third, not first, my mistake. Good catch!! |
| July 19, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How to call a tag play when view is obstructed BJ consider this play I had last weekend at a men’s tournament. Championship game. 2 man system, I’m in the field. Top of the 7th, visiting team is down by 2 runs. Man on first, one out. Left handed batter is up who is extremely fast, a single is usually a double for him. He gets a base hit up the middle. Runner at third scores. I get to the infield side of second and turn to watch him touch first which he did. Here comes the throw, second baseman scoops it up and turns to make the tag. The batter runner is jogging and easily gets tagged out. I ask myself what the heck is he doing. I look at my partner to see if he had a delayed dead ball signal. He did not. Then the arguing starts. F bombs galore by the batter runner. He’s tossed, good bye. Coach (a good friend) comes out and asks if I saw what happened. I said I saw him touch first and I got into position fo call a potential play at second. He says can you ask your partner if he was obstructed going to second. Ok, I talk to my partner. He says he saw the whole thing. He wiped out after touching first and rolled right into the leg of the first baseman, nearly taking his knee out. I asked if was sure he didn’t run into him first. He said he was 100% certain. No obstruction. I didn’t see it happen but what my partner saw is not obstruction. The batter runner tried to sell an obstruction call. Whatcha think? |
| July 17, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How to call a tag play when view is obstructed Nancy you’re correct, you certainly don’t hear those ever mentioned at a clinic. It has happened to me less than a handful of times. I call it a bail out!! This dovetails into what BJ correctly pointed out about positioning. If you get into the proper position you should be able to make the call without any impediment. But saying and doing it can be two different things!! It happens to everyone but in some cases certain umps think like players instead of thinking like umpires. |
| July 17, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: commitment line LMR, that runner is out rightvwhen he recrosses the commit line going back to third. |
| July 15, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How to call a tag play when view is obstructed BJ, you’re correct. We say the same things in the clinics I’ve been to and have instructed at. I don’t believe franjan was necessarily wrong as long as he made a firm call and sold it. I agree if you didn’t see the tag you call him safe. He did have the luxury of having a partner he could defer to. If he was doing a one man he might have to eat that one!! I’ve never totally believed the idea that if the ball beats you to the base you’re out. |
| July 14, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: How to call a tag play when view is obstructed Franjan, the situation you describe is your call and even though your view was blocked you made the call based on what your judgement was. Nothing wrong with that. That being said I would not defer to my partner unless I was asked to ask for help. I will always ask my partner if im given something specific. Examples being: did he drop the ball, was he juggling it, did he come off the bag early, was he on the bag, and there are others. Simply asking if the runner was safe or was he out is not enough. If by chance you didn’t make a call on this play you can point to your partner to get help. Nothing wrong with that. In a one man you obviously have to make a call and like BJ correctly points out don’t say I thought, I think or I’ll add I’m not sure but... If that happens, “you’re gonna get crushed” like mr wonderful sometimes says on the show shark tank. Unfortunately, (you know what) happens but the objective is always to try and get it right. |
| July 12, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Courtesy runner established Correction: third line down should read bottom of the eighth inning. |
| July 12, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Courtesy runner established Nearly the same thing happened to my team earlier this year. Championship game, goes into extra innings. We’re visitors. Our batter who made the last out in the top of 7th starts off at second base in the top of the 8th. We end up scoring 6 runs. Bottom of the seventh: our opponent sends out a courtesy runner at second to start their half of the 8th inning. By rule that should be an out and they lose the runner. I’m playing middle in a 5 man infield and I casually tell the runner who was standing on the bag the same thing. The runner just stated “they told me to run for Sammy” Our two coaches are arguing with the ump at home plate. Apparently the ump then allowed our opponents to send out the proper runner. And we played it out. They scored 7 runs to win without making an out. I’m not saying they wouldn’t have scored 7 because they’re a strong team. But going into an inning with 1 out and no one on base is a different look then no outs and a runner on second. |
| July 8, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: What's the correct call? The strike mat is considered fair territory. Since the batted ball hit the mat and bounced up and then catcher caught the ball in the air that is a fair ball. The batter is out after being tagged. Since the runner at third came down the line and presuming he passed the commit line as you say did the runner go back to third and cross back over the commit line? Or did the catcher step on the mat with the ball in his possession? Sounds like the umpire may have made the correct call! |
| June 25, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rulling Titanhd I’m glad you argued that at the time. I hate it when people say it wouldn’t made a difference because as an umpire I maintain its imperative to get it right. Even if it takes time to call the UIC or get the rulebook on someone’s phone. I’m not certain what the ISSA rule is on that |
| June 24, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rulling Titanhd, recall the Bobby Chapp. Sammy made the last out for D & D in the bottom of the 7th. Score was tied. After we scored 6 in the top of the 8th, In Lance came out to start at second base (and he was standing on the base) where it should have been Sammy. That’s an out that should have been in the book. If it was then that’s correct. If not that’s on the umpire and us. |
| June 20, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Caught foul ball. Ruling on the play is the batter is out, then a dead ball when the shortstop went out of play. The runners on first and third advance one base. If in the judgement of the umpire the fielder caught the ball in play and intentionally went out of play the batter is still out but the runners advance two bases. In your scenario the runner at third scores and the runner at first goes to third. The shortstop (or any other fielder) cannot attempt to throw out any runners becausecits a dead ball. |
| June 6, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Umpires Making the Right (or Wrong) Call In all the years I ve played or umpired I’ve never seen or even ervheard of an umpire calling both managers together after an alleged bad cal. Sometimes bad calls are made and the umpire has to eat it. I’ve had several people tell me that umpiring is easier than playing. To them I say they have a major hole in their head. |
| June 3, 2021 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Ruling Senior ball. Stick makes the last out in the top of the 7th inning. (damn) BJ is put in as a sub for stick in the bottom of the 7th. The score ends up tied. The last out in the 7th starts off the 8th inning at second. Since BJ went in for stick as a sub some might believe BJ runs because it’s the spot in the order and stick is out of the game. I say stick has to run since he made the last out. Tell us what you think. |
| May 31, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: you make the call Sisavic, per rule, yes. Its a dead ball, batter-runner is out and the runner(s) return to the base they occupied at the time of the pitch. In your scenario the runner goes back to third. |
| May 31, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: How would you rule onthis one? Perhaps DD can shed some light on that if he chooses to. |
| May 31, 2021 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Another play I've never seen before Webbie a senior moment is the perfect excuse for a blunder type play! |
