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| May 28, 2010 v55lrv | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: TEAMS GOING TO JIMMIE CLARK MEMORIAL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TEAMS ARE GOING TO THIS TOURNAMENT IN JUNE? |
| Nov. 4, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: pitcher safety thought! I was reading some of the replies as I also pitch and have been hit a few times. They are saying that the pitcher should suit up and not complain, but that would just encourge some to come up the middle more as they would say oh they have all that equipment and it wont hurt..All I can say I was a cather in college and It Still Does Hurt And If The Player is a Hitter He Does Not Have To Use The Middle. |
| Sept. 14, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: Players looking to join a team Discussion: Phoenix World Tournament I believe that the only way that a team should be allowed to pick up a player for a national tournament would be if they only had 10 players and he would be the 11th. But the team should be checked during the tournament to make sure that they dont have more than 11. If they have more than that the team should be disqualified from competion this would keep teams from just loading up when they have enough players to play. I know that it is not the players fault when a team disbands or just cant go but it isnt fair to teams that keep there same rosters for the nationals. |
| Sept. 13, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Concerns for game with M & M+ separately or a merge. I have just one more question? There are always people that want to play in this tournament and that but I thought that you could only play on one team unless they gave you a release and only 1 time, but it seems as if you can change teams on a whim and play at any tournament as a pick-up. I would like to know if you are picked up in the winter nationals you must be released from that team before you can play for a different team the next year is that correct? So when you are released from that team you can go back and play with your old team I guess and then next year you can load up a team and do the same thing. I just see this as another way around the system and something should be done about it. I understand that it is a new year but if you put a team together for the winter I would hope that it would be one that would stay together as most of the teams that come are putting together something for the next year but by doing the 1 time release maybe this will slow down on the people picking up players as long as the organizations really keep up with it. |
| Sept. 13, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Concerns for game with M & M+ separately or a merge. Taits just an idea what if you had to attend at least two tournaments a year in order to attend the nationals such as the qualifiers they have now. I understand that in someplaces there may not be as many tournaments as others so travel is hard but that could be taken into consideration. I would think by doing this that each organization would try to make an effort to put on a tournament that would be convient for the players to attend. If for some reason this could not be arranged then the roster would still be registerd with another organization so they should share so a team could not load up to come to that tournament. I know that this is probably a pipe dream but would it be nice if people would not be so greedy and take into consideration us low people once in a while. By having the two that you have to attend this would help on number of teams that would attend if they want to play in that national and I dont agree that a 55 team should be playing a younger team than a fifty major or major plus. I understand it was probably because of number of teams but I would have looked for another weekend to play and by doing this on qualifiers you should have more teams to play as it is a required rule. You talked about the higher end and the lower end in each division, but would the top 4 or 3 winners in nationals moving up help. This would help everyone for a year. If they dont win then move then down to next level this gives everyone a chance. An as I said before about teams splitting up and keeping a 5 players and picking up more just to stay down and beat up on teams again is not right and by rating players this could help the lower teams to compete. |
| Sept. 13, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors I was just talking to a guy and he said that he thought you could keep 5 off the winning team and pickup the rest of a team, but what good is that if you pick up the guys off another team that finished in the top 4 of other tournament so you are back to the same problem you had before not trying to solve the problem of getting teams in the right class. They just keep changing every year in order to stay down. That is part of the reason you have alot of the same winners in nationals each year and teams are getting tired of spending money and not having a chance to win a national championship that we all love to win. I would hope that in the future there will be some kind of way to police this procedure of rating teams. |
| Sept. 13, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors Wow what a discussion. I think that all that any senior want is a level playing feild but they dont want some one to be able to play 250 feet because the ball is so soft it wont go father. But I also know that there are alot of players it would not matter if they hit a pair of sock it would go out. But for a base hitter the ball needs a little more hop to get in the gaps. I would like for the organizations to consider opening up the upper divisions by extending the time and not putting a limit on homeruns. I really believe they would pay the umpires more for the extra time as the cost for most tournaments is already pretty high. I would give them all the same balls and have balls at the park so they could purchase additional if they wanted them, and let them be responsible for retreiving there homers. I would also just let major plus get anyone they wanted and if the sponser has the money let them decide who they want. As far a major I would limit them to 1 or 2 major plus as long as they have not played any in the current year and they would be locked into playing major for that year unless the team disbands. This would stop players from getting picked up to play in other tournaments for other teams and would keep teams more equal in the major class. A major plus player would never be able to play AAA unless he had not played major plus or major for 2 years this would create a barrier between the classes. I still believe that if you win or place in the top 4 in a national that has at least 6 teams you should move up for a year this would give other teams a chance and inprove competion in classes. I know that if you win a national that the winner goes up in to the next class for a year but alot of teams disband and keep what is ever allowed so they can stay down so this is not right and if you had a rating system these players would be rated into the next class the following year so if you have limits on the class of players that a team can have this would help police the classes. I think that the major plus should be a class by its self just like in the 80s when back porch belcore ken sanders and alot more teams that could be mentioned played and had there own set of rules when they came and played this would be good for softball and maybe get younger guys involved. |
| Sept. 7, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors Taits I agree there is always a chance that each batch of balls are different but at least you know what they are suppose to be like. And you are right it was a double neg but I just wanted to try and get my point accross like everyone else. As for a union I am not looking for that just for us as indivuals to stand up and be counted. JohnBob is right ssusa does try and police senior ball and this is why they have so many teams play. I think that there attempt to rate players so there is a set of rules for how many players a team can have before they are rated higher is a plus. Once you are rated you play that class for a year and then if you place in the top 4 in nationals you are still rated that for another year. This may or may not happen but it would be a chance to get the majors and major plus a little more equal and same with all the other classes. I may be wrong but rating players will help senior softball. |
| Sept. 7, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors Taits you have good points but why is it not the tournaments job not to provied the information about what balls and bats are being used I know that when we played they have it posted no ultras so how hard is it to put out the informantion as to what they are going to allow? As you said if we dont like it stay at home and if more seniors get involved the better chance to change things. I know that is alot to ask people but what do we want better senior ball or just status quo? |
| Sept. 7, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors Just a short note this will also inprove the other organizations as they will understand that we are united in the way we feel and what is needed in the senior program. |
| Sept. 7, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors Jawood and Taits I appreciate your input but I still dont understand why we support the organization that is taking everything away that they possibly can. I know that there are other tournaments that we can go to at the same time these are. I just wonder if we think that if we dont play it will possibly be or last? If so I will not support this organiztion even if it was possibly my last. I will gladly stand up for the seniors as we are paying alot of money for the right to play with good equipment. I hope that seniors everywhere will have the gusto to say no to this organization and then and only then will they take there senior program serious. |
| Sept. 6, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors I read the replys and really dont think going to the meetings will accoomplish much as they will do what they want anyway. The only solution to the problem is not to play with the organizations that cheat us. There are plenty of good organizations such as ssusa, spa, nsa, isa, just to name a few that still use a good ball. It seems that at least they let you play and also have a good national tournamet. We must realize that most of us dont have the pop we once did and by taking a good ball away from us means that the ball dont get to the hole as quick or get over the outfielders head as quick so like I said before if you want to continue to support the organization that has and is taking everything from us be ready for the downfall of senior ball and all ball as we once knew it. |
| Sept. 5, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: fickel seniors I would like to understand when we played in the 80s and they took away our good balls and made us play with the gold dots we played with the organizations that gave us good balls and bats. After about 2 years this organization let us play with the balls that the other organizations were playing with because people did not play with them. Know the same thing is happening and you complain. This will happen to all organizations unless we step up and quite playing at this organization tournaments. So if you are going to support this organizations tournaments dont be suprised if what we know is senior ball will become nothing more than bloop ball because we wont have a ball worth hitting or a bat that will be worth hitting. We are letting this happen and all we do is complain and complain and not take action... |
| May 25, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Players Voice Our team plays almost all the different associations and I do alot of the pitching. We played major in phoenix and I was hit twice but most pitchers do not stay in the box so the ppr rule is not in play when you are as close as we are you dont have a choice but to try and get back. I would also like the rule for major plus to be unlimited hrs with a 1hr 45 minute time plus one inning and all games to be played on one field so there is not a problem with scheduling and pay umps more to umpire these games that way you dont have the ppr problem and be like old times. I think that majors should have 7 plus one up this also would eleminate the ppr rule. The people want this so give it to them and play ball this would possible open up money for the major and major plus players as more people would come to watch like when steele,ken sanders,back porch molten furniture,etc etc were in the area to play. |
| March 25, 2009 v55lrv | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Final information on Boaz al. Tournament will be on the June 13 Tournament will be on Sat 13 of June in Boaz Al. Entry fee is $100.00 with umpire of $10.00 per game use nsa 44 400 ball.The bats are nsa bats as this is an nsa park and rewards will be dozen ball and a 2 game round robin and then a single elemation tournament. Call 1-256-593-2074 for information. |
| Aug. 8, 2007 v55lrv | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: nsa fall world panama city beach fl We played in the NSA tournement in Alabama and had a great time meeting new people and the fields and umpires were very good. The tournament was ran well and hope that the one in Panama City will have a great many teams in all divisions and will also be a great vacation since all the kids will not be there. Hope to see alot of new teams and alot of our old friends at the end of September. |
| July 8, 2007 v55lrv | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: NSA Worlds in Alabama JTS2 had a good point about having major tournaments at the same time the porblem is this tournament in Alabama has been held the same weekend for several years except last year when it was moved to Rock Hill and then I dont remeber if it was the same weekend. But did not know that the one in St Louis was held at this current time I thought it was later in the month? |
| July 8, 2007 v55lrv | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: NSA Worlds in Alabama I thought that the tournament directors were to be checking this problem. If this is the case then why not play with the organizations that will abide by the rules this would make some people wake-up maybe. I am sure not all organizations let this go on. |
| July 7, 2007 v55lrv | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: NSA Worlds in Alabama My mistake you are right but what are your ideas about this situation with making a complete senior rules for all . You could pay in the area that you live but would be able to travel to different areas and know that you would be able to be on a level playing field with other teams. |
| July 7, 2007 v55lrv | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: NSA Worlds in Alabama I know that certian areas play in different associations so why not make each area have some many tournaments that you have to play in to go to the nationals like it used to be and all associations would be able to have a good turn out. This way you can control the sand bagging that goes on and control the ball and bats that would be used if you can set-up senior rules that would govern all these associations but I know it is all about the money for the associaions and not for the players which is wrong. I will give the spa credit for being more for the players than most.I would like to hear your suggestions on this. |
