Feb. 12, 2025 DBLB32 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Baden Softballs Dave, What was USSSA reasoning behind making the Onyx Energy ball non-conforming? |
Feb. 12, 2025 DBLB32 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Baden Softballs JohnO28 gave you a list of better balls. The Onyx Energy is a much better ball than the Baden Fire. It also stays clean throughout the game. BTW, it flies too. |
Jan. 15, 2025 DBLB32 | Topic: Bats Discussion: Miken/Rawlings Johnny Bailiey 2024--defective bats? Quite a few years ago. I bought 2 Miken Ultra 2 Bats. I was breaking in one of them. It still had the wrapper on it. I took less than 20 swings and it broke. Not only would they not replace it, I told the I wanted to return the second one. It still had the wrapper on it with zero swings. They refused to take it back. To this day, I refuse to even touch the crap that Miken makes. I know some players like them. But really you do not see many players using Miken bats. I do not understand why they are still in business. |
Dec. 30, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Bats Discussion: Bat Holder Sorry, here is the full Description: "Hanging Baseball Bat Bag Bat Caddy with Hanging Hooks, Holds up to 12 Bats Nylon Reinforced Baseball Bat Holder Dugout Organizer for Baseball and Softball Teams". If you do not believe what I am saying, here is the Brand (Simgoing) I invite everyone to look it up for themselves. Look up Baseball Bat Caddy. |
Dec. 30, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Bats Discussion: Bat Holder Is a BAT HOLDER that hangs on a fence and holds 12 bats considered a Bat Warmer? NOWHERE IN THE DESCRIPTION DOES IT STATE OR APPLY THAT IT IS ACTING AS A BAT WARMER. It is just to keep the bats off the COLD Ground during cold weather games AND KEEP THE ORGANIZED. |
Dec. 14, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Definition Please Dave Dowell, I do not understand WHY ASA/USA Softball has anything to say what goes on in SSUSA? ASA/USA softball members are anywhere from 18-40 years old. My Nephew is one of them. They are STRONGER, QUICKER/FASTER and more FLEXIBLE not to mention more DARING and have better reaction times than players in there 60's-80's. There are a lot of Senior Players that are on fixed incomes, they can NOT afford to keep buying bats at these prices. Also, players in the 65-85 age bracket using a SOLAR WARMER probably do not break bats as often as the younger players do. Senior Softball USA can modify any rule these please. All we are asking is to ALLOW the older age brackets to use a SOLAR WARMER. NO ROLLING of BATS, NO SHAVING of BATS and NO PROPANE HEATERS of ANY KIND. PERIOD!!!! ASA/USA changed their pitching heights a few years ago. Which made it more dangerous for a pitcher. It is obvious they are thinking things through either. A few years ago SSUSA allowed 65 year old's to have 11 defensive players. WHY? We did not ask for it. A lot of players still do not like that rule. PLEASE talk to the COMMITTEE again and let them know that it's membership whats the use of some kind of SSUSA approved Solar Warmer for age groups of 65 and up, ONLY. As a board member. Don't you feel obligated to bring this to the Board knowing how it's members feel? You can do it with a conference call. OR, at least post a survey on the message board and let it's members vote. SSUSA can change any rule it wants. |
Dec. 11, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Mikelmart. That is what I have been asking. That is ALL we are asking for. Make the use of a propane heater a SUSPENDABLE offense. |
Dec. 11, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Scott, Last year during Worlds our teams bats were tested TWICE. I was at the table with my Bat still in my warmer. My bat has had over 700 swings on it. I took it out of the warmer in front of the testers and handed it to them. My bat passed with 190lbs compression. Not one of our teams bats failed. The lowest test result was 175lbs. I did had one of those. They tested 3 of my bats. The only bats of mine they did not test were the ones still in their wrapper. Here is are a couple questions for you. Why do they test bats AFTER you use it? What if it failed testing before the game? They are testing randomly. That is not beneficial or accurate to find the results they are looking for. Every bat should be tested before the teams first game. I wonder how many bats would have been deemed illegal if they tested them ALL |
Dec. 11, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Scott, It is good to know. BUT, If a player uses a bat warmer and it still passes the 140lbs test, WHAT'S the problem? If it fails, they take the bat. If it sits for a period of time then they retest it and it passes you get it back and can use it. If it does NOT pass they keep it. |
Dec. 11, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Dave, I started what has turned into a train wreck. All I meant to do was have a thread that allows players to have a voice on this subject. It seems to me, the players that support SSUSA and have made it as strong as it is today are overwhelming against the Bat Warmer rule. You said in one of your threads it will come up again at 2025 Committee meeting. It would probably take LESS than an hour to get the committee members on a conference call. Let them know that this is very unpopular with it's players. I have NOT read a thread form anyone that they like this rule. It is just a suggestion. |
Dec. 9, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Sorry Softball players. In my last post I put a thumbnail-7.jpg. It will NOT open.But I found this that will open. www.batwarmer.com The PYROFLITE website will open. look across the top and click on ENDORSEMENTS Scroll down to the bottom. it is very interesting and worth your time to read. |
Dec. 9, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers I just happen to be browsing the internet tonight. Look what I came across INTERESTING thumbnail-7.jpg Hopefully you can open this. It's worth opening. |
Dec. 9, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers garyheifner, thank you for your post. You are proving / supporting one of my points. It is a recommendation in writing from the Bat Manufacturers that you do not use these bats under 64 degrees. It seems that SSUSA is IGNORING the manufactures recommendations and is forcing you to put our expensive bats at risk. Maybe everyone that ends up with a broken bat because of having to play in COLD weather and using COLD BALLS because they are not allowed to use a Bat Warmer and their bat breaks SHOULD send a bill to SSUSA. Their address is on their website. 2 Questions for ALL: 1) If you use a Bat Warmer and it STILL passes the Compression test what is the problem? 2) If you do NOT use a Bat Warmer in COLD weather using Cold Balls and your bat breaks prematurely knowing that a warmer could have prevented your bat from breaking, now what do you think? To me it is quite obvious that players are in favor of the use of some kind of SOLAR Bat Warmer. But again we are being IGNORED |
Dec. 9, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Banditos180, , it seems that you agree that because one person brought a propane heater to heat there bats everyone else is GUILTY by ASSOCIATION. SSUSA will not allow it's players to have a say in rule changes. They are afraid that they will find out that the player will vote against them and they will get embarrassed. |
Dec. 8, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers Yes when the Balls are COOLER they travel much better and quicker. How many of you have played the first game of the day and it is in the low 50's and the field is WET? Using a COOLER Ball AND playing on a WET field puts EVERYONE in danger of getting hurt. When a ball skips off the wet field we all know it picks-up SPEED. Personally I have seen MANY players get hurt because they cannot react fast enough to prevent an injury. Is that not making it unsafe to play also? We ALL know as players that we have to give a little to play this game that we all love. SO DOES SSUSA. LISTEN TO THE ONES THAT PLAY IT. NOT THE ONES THAT SIT BEHIND A DESK or DIRECT. |
Dec. 6, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: Website comments Discussion: Bat Warmers It came to my attention that the RULES Committee voted 9-1 yesterday to make Bat Warmers illegal. I see a HUGE issue. I use a bat warmer and have for over 20 years. Last year they started compression testing bats (Randomly). I had my bats tested (TWICE) in Worlds. It was the same bat that I have used for a couple years now. I took it out of my warmer, handed it straight to the Testers, IT PASSED at 190 compression pounds. The bat probably had 700+ swings on it. I had ALL (5) my bats tested. The lowest one was 170. The Highest was 200. ALL WERE WITHIN RANGE. THIS RULE IS STUPID §3.4(4) • ALTERED EQUIPMENT – Proposal to ban the use of bat warmers was presented, adopting the USA Softball rule that states: “[T]he characteristics of any approved equipment cannot be unnaturally changed. Examples include icing, cooling, or heating of any equipment. In addition, approved bats shall not be rolled, shaved or modified to change their characteristics from that produced by the manufacturer. Warming devices for bats are not approved.” • PASSED: 9-1-0. Anyone that purchased a NEW bat, probably noticed under the clear wrapping, there are instructions on how to use and maintain your Bat. You may not have read the instructions. On that instruction slip it states that you should NOT USE THE BAT UNDER 64 DEGREES. How many of you have played the first game of the day when it is in the 50's or lower? Under 64 degrees you have a good chance of breaking your bat, without using a bat warmer. If that is the case, players will NOT be using their bats until it reaches at least 64 degrees or higher. Will SSUSA be supplying bats until it reaches the minimum temperature? IF, you are forced to use your bat and it breaks, Will SSUSA buy you a new bat? We spend a lot of money for these bats. By using a warmer your bat will last much longer. I know what a lot of you are thinking. "IS SSUSA IN CAHOOTS WITH THE BAT MANUFACTURERS" to sell more bats? I am NOT saying that that is true. But it sure looks like they are. I can see it being illegal if only certain TEAMS or PLAYERS are allowed to use a Bat Warmer. But that is NOT the case. Anybody and Everybody can get a Bat Warmer. That puts everyone on the same playing field. It is YOUR choice to use one or not. If SSUSA wants to enforce the rule. They should only enforce it once it reaches 68 degrees. IF, it is under 68 degrees (looking at the temp on the UMPIRES phone, during the coin toss) you can use your warmer during the entire game. If they are NOT really going to enforce the rule, but just have it in the books to cover their butts, then it's no big deal. SSUSA has a number of rules that they do NOT enforce even if it's in the rule book. I do NOT know how many players use bat warmers. I do know that there are a lot of you using one kind of warmer or another. What happens to ALL the Manufactures out there that Sell Bat Warmers legally? Now they are being told what they can and cannot sell? |
Aug. 26, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: ONYX BALLS Has anyone out there had the opportunity to use the New ONYX BALLS? We used it in Oregon over the weekend. Very good Ball. PRO's, Great Distance, ball JUMPS very well off the bat. One of the best things about this ball, it remains CLEAN the entire game. Will NOT get dirty. CON's, The ball has a very weak cover. Tears real easy. Over all, it is NOT as good as the ROCK. But much BETTER than the Baden Fire that SSUSA is using. |
Aug. 9, 2024 DBLB32 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: 69's playing 70's SSUSA Staff, I have some questions. 1) IF, a player is 68 and he will not turn 69 until AFTER Worlds, Can he play on a 70 Team? 2) Next year are you going to continue allowing three 69's to play 70's? It seems to be depleting the 65 teams. I look forward to your answers. |