http://www.seniorsoftballstore.com

 
SIGN IN:   Password     »Sign up

Message board   »Message Board home    »Sign-in or register to get started

Online now: 1 member: juniorbp; 46 anonymous
Change topic:

Details for Omar Khayyam


Real name:

Location:
,

Division:

Messages posted by Omar Khayyam »Message board home   »Start a new discussion

, March 12, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: New ball ?

I thought there was an incident a few years ago when teams were throwing in a ball that had been stored in a cooler. It was a legal ball by description and definition, and had it been in a spring tournament when temps were in the 40s, it would have been normal. But I seem to remember that this was disallowed (the pitcher, of course, immediately realized that the new ball was colder than the other balls in the 90º heat}.
, March 12, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Female pursuing action to join all male league

Yes, leagues do differ. Our league allows women and we have several women players who can keep up with most of the men (we also have players up to age 93 and we integrate them into teams by ability).

A more interesting question would be: can she join an SSUSA team and play in some tournaments?
, March 11, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Bats
Discussion: shoes

The best turf shoe is one made by Tanel—wear like iron, including the cleats, lightweight, high-top—but sadly, no more. I noted the coming end of that company and bought a couple of extra pairs, but the day will come when I will need new turf shoes. I'm interested in responses for current shoes.
, Feb. 28, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Approved bats

The fee is obviously up to the company negotiating it with SSUSA and other associations. I suspect it is not onerous, not as challenging as having thousands (tens of thousands?) of potential purchasers shunning their products because they can't be used in tournaments.

The question of what the insurance covers is interesting. It can't be for replacement since, with rare exceptions, these manufacturers of composite bats don't cover replacement anyhow. The exceptions would be obviously abnormal manufacture differing from normal bats.

It can't be for liability of injury to other players, since these bats have all met certification criteria and approved as "standard" and thus as safe for use as any other composite.

It must be for liability in the case of abnormal manufacture: e.g. a bat shatters on hitting the ball because of a defect and one part strikes and injures another player. I would guess insurance on this potential would be very inexpensive because the risk is so negligible.

In any event, posters on this board should be bombarding the two major manufacturers, Easton and Dudley, to get this resolved. Does anyone know the appropriate phone number and email link for Easton? I'll send something in to protect my beloved Combat backup bat.
, Feb. 18, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: A True Equalizer

Here's the challenge with doing away with the equalizer:
In northern California in 2016 there were an even 100 teams registered for the association. Of those 100 teams (from 50 through 80) there were 10 Major Plus (counting two Major in the 80 bracket). So, 10% of the teams are elite in terms of skill, athleticism, perhaps balance, and experience at high quality competition. That means 90% of all teams are not at that level.

Northern California has about 40 tournaments a year. As a result, most teams never play out of state (if you take away Reno, then a big majority of teams only play locally). If there were no equalizers, how would those teams realistically hope to ever succeed against the elite? They wouldn't, and eventually either half of them would not play at all, or they would form an association that excluded elite teams.

Most of these teams are formed on the basis of friendship. They might be motivated to practice a bit more; maybe take batting practice before tournament games; get in better shape; but realistically, they will not dump friends to add superior players and thus will never be elite teams because there are too many holes both in fielding and lineup. Realize that a great majority, maybe almost all, of AAA teams over 60 have no one on the roster who is capable of hitting a home run under normal conditions.

There are teams who aim to turn the roster over every year to improve, and that means dropping great athletes who are not committed to staying in shape as well as updating the quality of athlete. But where are these new players to come from? I suppose if you were to take one or two great players from the Major teams, you might be able to form a couple more Major Plus, but that still means there are going to be one or two teams maximum in every age bracket who will dominate when there are no equalizers.

The result will be the demise of tournament softball and will contribute to the already diminishing senior softball sport. In California, with its better than average health statistics, and its influx into the 50s of thousands of men each year who were once (and some are) softball players, the growth of teams has plateaued. In other words, the sport is shrinking compared to the potential players. Saying farewell to all AA and AAA players who have no hope of competing and winning, will hasten the decline.

I enjoy beating a better team straight up (usually in seeding rounds) as much as anybody. I don't do a victory dance when we defeat a better team because of a multi-run handicap. But I do want to keep playing and eliminating any kind of equalizer would probably be the end of our team who are drawn from enough distances that we don't socialize much, if at all, outside of tournaments. We are held together by the chance of winning against our equals.
, Feb. 17, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: A True Equalizer

Davy, an excellent point. I am in the same age group as the mighty San Francisco Seals, multiple World Champions. This means that my teams have played the M+ team many times over the years, especially in northern California which has about 40 tournaments a year. We ALWAYS receive an equalizer when playing the Seals. Over the two decades, we have triumphed about 3 times which is about 5% of the time.

Yes, we have played them when they had injured players, when they didn't try their best (due to players skipping a lesser tournament), when they even forfeited a tournament win by not playing the championship game because they wanted to get home, etc. This doesn't include a few out of state tournaments when we also played them, sometimes in an exhibition or seeding game. We still count it a significant victory when we are able to defeat them with the equalizer.

This is just a personal anecdote, and maybe my memory fails and we have beat them 10% of the time with an equalizer, but Davy's point is that it isn't an "equalizer" when lower rated teams consistently lose to higher rated teams. An equalizer should mean the lower ranked team should win 40-50% of the time.
, Feb. 7, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batter Throwing a Bat

Can't believe a guy is playing senior softball and still throwing his bat. I learned this rule in sand lot baseball about 65 years ago! How many times has someone shouted DON'T THROW THE BAT! whether that be the umpire, the batter, the catcher, or the coach. Usually takes about a month of thoughtful attention to relearn a new habit of not throwing the bat. As to tying it on one's wrist, I wouldn't want to be a first baseman as the batter comes stumbling down the line with the bat whipping every which way. I'd fee safer if he just carried the bat and didn't drop it. For that there is also no prohibition as we learned on this forum a few years ago.
, Jan. 26, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: National Senior Games In Birmingham AL

Senior Games is a national movement. I also played in Palo Alto/Sunnyvale a few years ago. There are several challenges:

If you don't have a TD knowledgeable about skill levels, there can be some very lopsided games. Few TDs ARE knowledgeable about teams from other regions. The result, even with handicaps, can still be lopsided.

If you do have such a TD, the entry fee is much higher than most more local tournaments. In California, the entrance fee was about 50% higher than the typical tournaments in the area. We attended once and never went again.

As a result of high fees and potential mismatched teams, the number of teams is much smaller than one would think. The result: mismatched teams not only by skill but by age. Last year, I believe our regional Senior Games mens softball tournament was cancelled for lack of interest and too few teams.

I think that in addition to the medals, participants also receive T-shirts. I wore my Senior Games long-sleeved shirt just this week! And I don't think we earned it by winning our bracket.
, Jan. 18, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Courtesy Runner From Home

taits, here are a few reasons why SSUSA might not allow such a runner:

1. Some guys don't even want courtesy runners, much less from home. Ignites the controversy anew.
2. Setting rules is difficult because of lack of agreement (one base only? all CR can get? doctors' s note? disabled placard? disabled placard "in the mail"? restriction on CR eligibility? start from where?, etc.)

And some reasons leagues do allow it:

1. Most leagues are controlled locally with their own specific rules to fit the league and its players.
2. Most disabled runners are friends with other league players who are willing to give them a break.
3. Most guys play with less intensity in league play than in tournaments. For example, I usually hit the first pitch close to the strike zone, rather than wait for a plum. It is good training for tournaments when you have two strikes on you. Some guys in our league refuse to walk and will even reach way out for a pitch. Try that in tourney play and your manager will soon have you on the bench.



, Jan. 16, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Courtesy Runner From Home

Our league allows a courtesy runner from home because we have a few players (300 members over 50 up to 92 in our Club) that are permanently unable to run at all. They play home or first, usually. In addition, we have some players who for awhile can't run for themselves (usually a hamstring or a groin).

We have never bothered with where the batter moves after hitting the ball. It is usually good for a laugh when a temporarily crippled player starts instinctively to run down the line to first after hitting the ball. They never reach first. It never interferes with a play. What is the problem?

I understand that in tournament play a courtesy runner is not allowed since a player probably shouldn't be on the field at that level of play unless he can get to first, and some courtesy runners are very fast. But in league play? Why so tight to say a batter can't leave the batter's box? What is the possible interference?
, Jan. 10, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Looking For Some Feedback

southpaw,

A Baptist Pastor who talks too much?! Tell me it isn't true! But I do believe that you, sadly unlike some managers, do communicate the team style when the team is forming and thus avoid many problems.

I played on a team once where at the beginning of the year the TEAM decided what their style would be for the season. Didn't work any better than when the manager does it, because there are always some guys who have a higher opinion of their skills and feel overlooked or under appreciated. Either way, these "overlooked" players will still be grousing about the manager and his "poor judgement".

I like swing's statement about expressing appreciation, whether for your manager or fellow teammates. It is very healthy for the team. One year I was out of action a couple of months for rotator cuff surgery, but I could still run, so I went to every tournament and became a rabbit. I never fielded or batted or pitched, but I was available off the bench every inning. My manager more than once expressed his appreciation as did some teammates who were gassed and enjoyed the rest. I enjoyed that period of time even without full faculties because I was still recognized for my contributions.
, Jan. 9, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Looking For Some Feedback

southpaw, it must be a pleasure to play on your team. Good guidelines.

As to winning at any cost, I think the solution is to be upfront when forming the team. If you are a win at any cost, then marginal players from the start will know they will likely ride the bench in important games. In my experience, there are such players who enjoy being part of a winning team or playing with friends or just the joy of the friendships, who will not complain about being skipped in order to bat the best 10 in an important game. There are also players who will rebel at this (and usually they have a higher opinion of their skills and worth than do their teammates and manager) so they should play with a different team.

I have been on both types of teams. I enjoyed both experiences. I did not enjoy when managers were not clear at the beginning about how it was going to be, and the dugout suffered from disgruntled passed-over players or irritated good players who saw lesser talents in their position in important games. Communication of your expectations is vital.
, Jan. 3, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: New age eligibilty rules for 75s and 80s - Reactions?

Fred S, you are absolutely right. As younger guys can join a team (you can be multi-rostered in northern California), then some of the older, slower, declining guys no longer have a team to play on. Understandably, the younger, faster, stronger guys will take the starting positions. This leaves older guys, some of whom have been on the same team for decades as it aged, shut out as they realize they will not get much playing time. There are a couple of teams I know of that refuse to upgrade with younger guys and continue to play with the friends they have enjoyed for years. They don't win many tournament games, but I admire their commitment to each other.
, Jan. 3, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: New age eligibilty rules for 75s and 80s - Reactions?

I have many friends who are on 75 and 80 teams. For the many on this site who are youngsters (I'm talking to you, 50s and 60s), they likely have no idea of the toll that age takes on these teams. Most of these older teams carry the maximum roster of 22 people and it is not uncommon that they find themselves with a tournament looming and they do not have 12 healthy players to compete!

Also, it is a rare tournament that one or more players is able to go with faculties intact as the tournament progresses. Muscle pulls, dizziness, injury bleeding, and stamina often cause a player to be unable to go full strength, or even to continue to play. Thus, again, the need for a large roster.

With the ability to have more younger players on the roster, as well as picking up subs at times, these teams will have a more successful season. I personally do not see the need to add so many younger players to a 75 team, but I do think it is necessary for an 80s team. I would have argued for 2 73-year-olds and 3 74-year-olds. Having a roster of too many younger players makes the competition less even and may reduce the number of teams, as well as robbing 70s teams of some of their older players who may be still able to compete on a 70s team, but are even more valuable on an older team. I know my older team is losing three valuable players to the next age bracket.


, Dec. 28, 2016
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Trump Rock

mad dog, I am coming around to your opinion about using the 52/300 ball. I have no problem, even as a pitcher, having a true home run batter hitting a blast off of me. I watch it sail just like everyone else. I even brag about the super long balls that these boomers hit no matter whose team they are on.

I do have a problem with pipsqueaks like me hitting a hot ball to the wall with our composite bats. Or bopping an infielder or pitcher on a screaming line drive. Or driving a ground ball through the hole before an infielder can take a step. Since it seems a lost cause to ever rein in these hot bats, the 52/300 would restore the competition of the game, be safer for those occasionally plunked, and bring some balance back to defenders and strategists.
, Dec. 26, 2016
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Trump Rock

I am not a fan of the Trump Stote since we only hit it in SSUSA tournaments in Sacramento, where the heat is often in the 90s or more, and the decline in the afternoon is very noticeable. In our other NCSSA tournaments, we hit the Baden Fireball which holds up extremely well in hot temperatures.

That said, my older team is not a fan of the Rock used in Las Vegas. We find it too hot, even playing against our age group. For every marginal long ball hitter on our major team who might reach the fence, we have a dozen who have trouble fielding this hot ball as it flashes past, or get bushed chasing it to the wall when opponents hit it long. And, as stated yet again in recent posts by others, it is probably illegally labeled and is much hotter than the label indicates. It's a "trick pony" ball that we tolerate in Las Vegas once a year, but would not want to use regularly.
, Dec. 22, 2016
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Active retirement communities with senior softball leagues

Del Webb in Lincoln, CA, has it own ballpark! And no hurricanes or tornados. Actually, almost every year-round community in California is close to major retirement communities and ball fields with senior leagues. Northern California has 100+ teams in its NCSSA and most of them never get snow.
, Dec. 20, 2016
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: player fees

Yes, hotel costs do add up. In our case, with teammates scattered over 150 miles, we have always left lodging up to individual players. Some have the means to pay easily; other room together; others stay with family that may be in the area; some have special travel club deals; others are close enough to drive or willing to get up very early to drive to the tournament. We do usually book a block of rooms at a discounted price at a nearby hotel, but only about half the team uses them. Some even want to pay a bit more because their wives prefer better accommodations. Some don't mind the cheapest rooms in an area and book a Motel 6. Taking those costs out of the equation has never been a problem in the years of our team.
, Dec. 19, 2016
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: player fees

HAT MAN, missouridave's solution is very similar to ours. Our sponsor only buys shirts and hats so we also scan the calendar and decide in February what tournaments we are going to participate in. We add up the tournament fees, divide by all players on the roster, and everyone pays the same share.

If a guy misses a tournament, there is no refund since the fee is still the same whether 12 guys play or 16. Occasionally, when a player is injured and misses several tournaments, we refund part of his fee. Where does that money come from? It is an unusual year when we don't end up dropping one or two tournaments because we can't get a reasonable team together, so there is usually some money left over each year. This is what covers injured players.

Most of our tournaments are in northern California so the normal fee is around $300 for a tournament. We also go to 2 or 3 SSUSA tournaments which are much more expensive. Still, the cost is not much for the fun of the tournament. It also helps that we are an older team, so we have 20 on our roster to divide the amount owed. We don't guarantee any playing time although we try to get everyone into some games in the tournament. We typically play 5 or 6 games on a weekend, so there is ample opportunity to give everyone playing time even if 16 show up.

As to league fees, everyone pays a flat $55 fee for the year. Being in California, we usually get in 90 games a year. Some are present for every game; others seldom attend because of work schedules. I'm stunned by Fred S having to pay $190 a year for league play! However, we ump for ourselves and the City rec department is very generous with field costs, so we have enough money left over from our $55 to subsidize a holiday party, a skills contest with prizes, an annual free tournament just for members with a free barbecue including families, batting practice every week, and sponsor some tournament teams (about $600 each). We have a good group of unpaid volunteers who take care of organizing and hosting all the events throughout the year.
, Dec. 12, 2016
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Hope Your Holiday and Holy Day are as Blessed as Mine!!

southpaw, that is such good news! She is one I was praying for and likely the recipient of many petitions from this extended softball family, even though most have never met you and probably will not this side of heaven. Thanks for your blessing request for us.
Older messages »
Senior Softball-USA
Email: info@SeniorSoftball.com
Phone: (916) 326-5303
Fax: (916) 326-5304
2701 K Street, Suite 101A
Sacramento, CA 95816
Senior Softball-USA is dedicated to informing and uniting the Senior Softball Players of America and the World. Senior Softball-USA sanctions tournaments and championships, registers players, writes the rulebook, publishes Senior Softball-USA News, hosts international softball tours and promotes Senior Softball throughout the world. More than 1.5 million men and women over 40 play Senior Softball in the United States today. »SSUSA History  »Privacy policy

Follow us on Facebook

Partners