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, Jan. 18, 2018
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll thread closed ?

OZ40, great idea! Not only would the rule be frequent, but there could be a second rule when restrooms are more than 100 yards away (which happens more often than it should on some fields). This could be the P-1b rule and allows the missing player to return to the game at any time, at bat or in the field, once he has caught his breath from running a 100 yard "dash"...which might be a couple of innings later.
, Jan. 18, 2018
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll thread closed ?

I usually agree with OZ40—he is a thoughtful and experienced player (and is also wise enough to agree with my positions most of the time). lol But I take one exception to his analysis of slow play as being "lazy".

As a member of older teams for some time (playing 80s this year), my observation is that it is not laziness that slows down the start of each half-inning—it can be the nature of an older player. Here is a sampling of comments from the dugout that go beyond the understandable inability of an older outfielder after one game played to "hustle" out by running 250 feet to his position.

"Where's my glove? Who has my glove? I can't find my glove! Oh, here it is, behind the bench."
"Man it takes forever for [the pitcher] to put on all his protective gear."
"Is Bob in the men's room again? He's supposed to be out in left field."
"It's not my turn to play left center this inning. You have another inning to go."
"Bill! Bill! Get back in here. It's Mick's turn to rotate in right field."
"Let me just get my wind back, fellas. Going second to home took a lot out of me."
"I'm not going to run for him again. My legs are giving out."
"Where are my dark glasses? I know I laid them right here! I can't see without them in this sun."
"Where's my bat? Who used my bat? I can't find my bat! Oh, here it is. Someone put it in the corner."

You get the idea.
, Jan. 10, 2018
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Shin guards

I have been using martial arts shinguards, they are lightweight and easy on-and-off, but they don't cover the knee. A fellow pitcher uses hockey shin guards that cover the knee, but they are a bit bulky for running over to cover first. I'll try AncientOne's suggestion!
, Jan. 10, 2018
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

I don't have a problem with the process—I thought it was well thought through. I am dumbfounded by the low response to the online poll. It takes about two minutes to respond...and the reader is already on the computer! Dave, do you have any data on what the response percentage was a few years ago? Most 60+ that I know are traditionalists and prefer the 0-0 starting count, so the change surprises me (the preference by the 50s did not surprise me).
, Dec. 20, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Single wall

Our league is a single-wall only league for those under 70, and we have discussed banning the Demarini Steel because of its extraordinary pop. Any thoughts on why it is so hot?
, Dec. 20, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Defense

Wow—a no-hitter in slow pitch! I have been pitching for 65 years and in those thousands of games, never threw a no-hitter. I have had a few shutouts, and let me tell you that great defense made those possible. (I'm not counting the shutouts I pitched when the sun was low and behind my back. I lost one of those shutouts when the batter closed his eyes and swung hard, hit what should have been a double, but it got by my fielder who was drawn in for the frequent pop-ups, rolled for a home run.)
, Dec. 20, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SURVEY RESULTS

For all of the huffing and puffing on the forum, a 25% response rate seems low. I have learned over the years when a "hot topic" for some is opened for public discussion, it turned out that it wasn't so "hot" for others; in fact, most felt the status quo was acceptable for them and no need to change which is why they didn't vote/attend a meeting/return a response/etc. in response to the issue.

There is a possibility that some voted on the first survey and ignored the second query, perhaps didn't even open the email thinking it a duplicate.


, Dec. 17, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: survey

OZ40, I agree that the batter should have a couple of pitches if he needs it. That's why I prefer 0-0 instead of 1-1.
, Dec. 16, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: survey

OZ40, I've got 60 years plus experience in pitching and I treasure my warmups. Wind conditions change; sun angles change; wet weather may have changed the mound conditions since the previous innings; etc. Also my older arm benefits from a couple of warmups. Some associations have a "one minute" warmup time for each inning. I value this so when the previous half-inning ends, I have my gear on and I hustle out to get my minute of pitching and insist that my catcher be out there also.

The major argument against not giving the pitcher any warm up is that it is sometimes a couple of minutes before outfielders, especially older fellows like my peers, or those who were on base when the inning ended, stroll out to their positions. Why not warm up while they are positioning themselves 250 feet away?
, Dec. 14, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: survey

I'm a little confused. On the resent survey, it says that I should answer the "following questions and e-mail your answers" . I only had one question which required one answer. Were there actually two questions (or more)?
, Dec. 13, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Survey

When I was a young man, I used to get a courtesy fowl for Christmas from my employer. With my low income, that turkey was mighty welcome!
, Dec. 13, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Results

I am one of those who is often interested in scores, both to see how friends' teams did, or to size up the competition (I know how my team did). Maybe we can look forward to a Christmas gift labelled "Quickscores"?!
, Dec. 13, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Survey

tried again and it said I had not voted (which I had). Again, nothing was in orange and only one question was listed. Looks like it will have to be a complete new survey started again once the problem is repaired.
, Dec. 13, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Survey

Got the same glitch. It told me to vote on the question asked in orange, but nothing was in orange except an orange strip beside the instructions. Also did not get a second question.
, Nov. 23, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1 and 1 count

genwa1 makes a good point. On my 16 man roster team, only 2 men will take a pitch that results in two strikes. One leads the team in walks, the other is looking for just the right pitch. Of the rest, we hit the first strike that looks good. 1 - 1 count makes no difference time wise over 0- 0 count. I am also playing with a man next year who is notorious for hitting the first pitch as long as he can reach it, whether it is a strike or not. Surprisingly, he has such good bat control that he is a scary hitter with a high batting average, even though opposing pitchers try to make sure he sees nothing but bad balls.
, Nov. 18, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Looking for a simple answer to adding or substituting players

In our Saturday league, the focus is to have a fun competition. Everyone tries their best, but we would rather win by outcompeting than taking advantage of a team that is short a player or two.

As a result, teams can pick up ANYBODY to fill in when they are short, as long as they are the approximate age of the team and the competition (we have two brackets—one younger than 65, the other older). Because it is so common to be missing a player or two, the fill-in player has been from another team playing later or earlier, from guys on a team on a bye week, from guys hanging around to watch and waiting for a chance to play, and yes, even from the opposing team which has more than enough players and lends players to the short team. Never had a problem about quality of the fill-in player. Just happy to have a satisfying double-header. We play games back to back and with double innings so the games go a lot faster. This allows us to get in 6 games a Saturday.
, Nov. 17, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: The "ROCK SOFTBALL"

JamesLG, you might not have been on this message board a few years back where there were serious, credible statements that the Rock was likely mislabeled and therefore hotter than its rating would indicate. But you only have to be on the board for a week to hear praise from certain quarters about the Rock because it flies so fast and so far.

That's why many players are not interested in playing regularly with the Rock. Sure it is fun to hit the ball a long way. And some guys, who are constantly searching for the hottest bat to hit the ball the longest distance are all for hitting 350, 375 feet rather than settling for a 325 foot home run with our present hot bats. Why not go to tennis balls if that is the goal. As Duke termed it "home run derby".

There are lots and lots of players, including most players over 65, who would rather return to the conditions they grew up with that made the game more nuanced, not just a power game. Games where good infielders were prized, not just the sluggers. Games where strategy played a part in hitting. Games where fast runners were honored, to score or advance, not just go to the dugout after another walk-off homer.

There is also a growing number of players of all ages who have safety concerns about the speed that a ball travels through the infield in order to clear a 300 foot fence. Have you noticed that SSUSA mandates masks and shin guards to protect pitchers? Have you noticed third basemen playing 75-80 feet deep to protect themselves? Have you noticed more and more infielders wearing protective face masks? I know several former pitchers who no longer pitch because of safety concerns with the current bats.

Most of this opposition comes from those who think hot bats have ruined the game or that they are dangerous. And now some want the hottest ball possible to add to the hottest bats?! I think there is likely a majority of players who see the conditions in Vegas as freakish because of the mandated Trump Rock. Playing there once a year is tolerable, but to regularly hit extra hot balls with super hot bats? Not likely a majority.

P.S. This is not a defense of the Trump Stote which deteriorates in hot conditions. But I would rather play with the Stote than the Rock for enjoyable games and tournaments.
, Nov. 13, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: cortisone shot

Reading about Ho's game experience got me to thinking. After more than 7000 games, I finally had to take care of a torn (not ruptured) rotator cuff in my NON-THROWING shoulder (and I'm a pitcher, as well). Pre-surgery, the doc gave me a cortisone shot and it worked like magic. I was able to put tension on my left arm within minutes and I, of course, thought who needs surgery? I did continue to play until the week of my surgery. A quick recovery (since the injury was slight and much of the disability was from a bone spur) and there I was, running as a rabbit in league games and tournaments within a couple of weeks, and then about four more weeks and back to the field. Had some physical therapy afterwards, and no problem since then.

But as others have said, see a doctor, specifically a sports orthopedic surgeon. You seem to have much more pain than I had and you will need an MRI to determine the causes. Cortisone is wonderful, but it is a stop-gap and you should have as few as possible. Most surgeons don't want to give more than two a year and for some players it only lasts a few weeks.
, Oct. 2, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Any results for the 75`s and 80`s?

Here are some 80s results:
1. Scrap Iron Gray Berets (CO)
2. Redwood City Gold Rush (CA)
3. Git-R-Done 80 (CA)
4. Texas Greyhounds

This bracket was an interesting one. The teams played only two games per day in kind of a round robin format with no seeding. It was a bit complicated to determine the winner since it didn't necessarily mean that every team played every other team. In an oddity, the Gray Berets won over the Gold Rush because of runs against, even though the Gold Rush did play the Gray Berets earlier and beat them by a score of 17 to 2. One would think head-to-head would factor in, but evidently not.


, Sept. 30, 2017
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Are you staying at AZ Charlies on boulder?

I stayed at Palace Station. They have a true 24-hour cafe. A good thing, since we had an 8:00am game on two days! Eating a protein bar or trail mix can help between games, but we were playing back to back games and for three hours of play it is better to have a good breakfast. Also, the snack bar at our field didn't open up until after 8:00.
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