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Nov. 21, 2020
Doak
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: out or safe

The fielder was in the "short outfield" and made a great backhand catch of a low liner. I get the runner isn't out by getting passed, but Dave when he was knocked off first base by the batter/runner can he be tagged out? This is the question still not answered. Is the play still alive or by being knocked off the bag and the umpire stops play for injury before being tagged out by the defensive team. Can he be tagged out as he lays 5 feet from the bag or does the stoppage of play by the Ump for an injury give him the "right" to return to the 1st base?
Nov. 20, 2020
Doak
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: out or safe

Dave, something happened at the Winter Nationals I have never seen before and I can use your guidance. Runner on 1st Base, line drive hit to our "rover" he makes a great catch on the ball. The runner on 1B breaks for second, the ump makes the correct out call and the runner heads back to 1B. The throw comes to me at first, I am off the bag and the runner beats the throw back in. Now, the batter is running to 1B and collides with the returning runner and knocks him off the bag. As I go to tag the runner out the Umpire calls a dead ball and the play dead and awards 1B to the original base runner. I thought there would be no dead ball as the play was still going and also that there was a rule against contact with the advance runner by the runner from behind. The explanation was that in the interest of safety this was the correct call. Please advise..

#37
April 5, 2020
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Reno

I love the optimism, they are hoping to start the NFL in September and we are talking about a May tourney. I am just hoping the Worlds happen...

Doak #37
Dec. 19, 2019
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 1 and 1 curiosity

I hesitated in commenting on this topic because I am appreciative of the NCSSA and SSUSA's efforts to create a forum where we old guys can still play a game.

However, I do like the 1 and 1 count. I have played with and mainly against teams that "took till they got a strike" or pitchers who would take forever to pitch a ball. One guy we called the human rain delay, we never played a 7 inning game against some of these teams and often played only 5 innings. EGADS,

I wish NorCal would have adopted the 1 and 1 just to be in line with the with SSUSA. Because these are the tournies we are gearing up for and the NorCal tournies help us get sharp. The consistency would be of benefit to many players who 'Wait till they get a strike". I have always been a "try to hit the first good pitch batter". So, it won't change my approach.

I realize change is hard but to be consistent not only with SSUSA but also the younger players, who we do occasionally play in NorCal. The back and forth is confusing.

Doak#37
Nov. 17, 2019
Doak
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: WINTER WORLD'S 65/70-Platinum Update

I also play for the Omen 70 team after 4 years with Timberworks. As SLI stated congrats to the Scorpians, they deserved the victory. There were four really good teams in Phoenix; Gonzalez, Scrap Iron, R&R and the Scorpians, it was a blast to compete with them and anyone of those 4 could have won that tourney. If there wasn't a Timberworks I would suggest to Dave that all of them move to major+. There are teams that compete in the Major category that really don't have a choice to win a big tournament, with teams like these there. But since Timberworks isn't going anywhere, at least this year, the Arizona Ancients have to bear the responsibility to battle with them. Although I really feel these teams could compete with Timberworks but you have to step up and take on the challenge. I saw Gonzalez score over 30 against TW, it was an impressive effort and victory.. I really saw a significant tiering in the Majors, 5 strong teams and 5 that were not as strong but going for it. I look forward to playing these "kids" in future tournies, Remember take it easy on the old guys...

Doak #37
Sept. 30, 2019
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Passing of Joe Brown

Of all the teammates I have had in my 40 years of softball, Joe Brown is one of them I will miss the most. Take care Joe and may God bless.

Doak#37
April 3, 2019
Doak
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SW LVSSA Championships April 23-25, 65-Major Division

Excuse me only "one" major plus team?
Aug. 17, 2018
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

to the ssusa staff, you neglect to mention that we won the southwest title against a team who didn't take the runs and I think we came back from 8 and 5 run deficits in the last inning to win competitive games. I don't know if we can say we could have came back from 10 and 13 run deficits !!! Can you? In Reno, we lost games and didn't give the 5 runs to the Rebels. So, be careful with your data. There have been teams that have dominated for years and now this ++ rule is instituted? In 2017 R&R lost every game they played in Major+ tournies, yet we are the only team to give them runs? The assumption you are erroneously making is that everything is static and it never is. Teams get better and worse, it has always been the case that the competition addresses this issue and not somebody assigning a rule to try to even competition. I thought Major + was the last bastion of pure competition, guess not..... Too bad... What you need to figure out is how do you help the major teams "graduating" to Major+. I would love to be on a committee to help address this REAL issue...

Doak #37
Aug. 16, 2018
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major++

I think we need to hear from the SSUSA staff on what is the criteria for Major ++ and why it was assigned to the teams it was. George are you there?????
Aug. 14, 2018
Doak
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Major++++

I never thought I would have to write this but I do, I am a member of the Timberworks 65 Major ++ Team (that's right Major ++). This means we have to give all Major + teams 5 runs, if they wish them. This is based on us having a great year last year (one great year)In the Westerns we gave a very good team 5 runs and it didn't feel right to anyone. I have played "competitive" softball for over 30 years. Being on Cal burgers, Dan Smiths, Cal Rebels, MTC, and now Timberworks (all won "Major +" national titles). We played against Nothdurf, Maroadi's, Fergies, the Florida and Texas teams, Harrisons, and the Seacrest Mavericks.. Believe me, we took our lumps but never got or whined for runs. You just competed and got better. I guess I am a dinosaur in the game today, where people rather play down than get better. Doug is a great sponsor who covers our tournies, uniforms and bats, we pay the rest. I cannot ever see myself taking runs and shaking hands with Don Clatterbough at the end of a game we won by getting runs. Maybe, we should just start giving participation awards!!!


The elephant in the room is the Major Teams that are kicked up so the money making divisions, Major and AAA, stay somewhat calm. Major + is the proverbial penalty box. The major complaint I hear is Major + teams have too much power for them to compete. I suggest that these teams have the option to play with a one up homer rule against the "power" teams or go to a 3 homer limit like we used to have in ASA 35 and 40's. Something needs to be done because the number of teams in the Major + 65, 70's and up divisions is dwindling. There has to be an effort to grow these fields.


I have come to realize I don't really mind giving the runs but don't ever ask me to take them....


Doak#37
June 3, 2017
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: DARK CLOUDS IN 65 MAJOR PLUS

I am on the Timberworks team and if I thought our manager put in an Rock on purpose for one second, I would have walked off that field right then, followed by 15 teammates. I have grown to have too much respect for our opposition, people that I have played with and against for years. Major Plus is a very small community and usually close knit. I know Doug. he is honest and has a million things going on and he just screwed up, it happens.... I am sorry the mistake happened and wish it was caught after our first hitter, so we would have had an out and we could have moved on....

Doak #37
April 25, 2017
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rock Ball in Vegas

Webbie, is right the ball had a lot of action on it. (would hate to be an outfielder) But we won the 65 major plus and in our bracket no one hit their limit of HR's in a game. Although, some of the balls got out of the park in a hurry. The balls did jump at BLD's on the second hop, but I thought it was more the rock hard outfield rather than the ball. So, I prefer the rock as a hitter because you get a response on the bat when you hit it. Now for the 55 and below age brackets those guys can power anything out of the park. There was great competition in our bracket with 6 teams. It was a refreshing change from the usual 2 to 3 team brackets...
Oct. 1, 2009
Doak
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 55's in Vegas

Just a note on George Robinson, he seems to be doing very well and promises to play in Phoenix. Per the doctors release. I guess he can't stop after being the MVP in Vegas.

Doak W - MTC55's

p.s., who is going to phoenix in 55 major+?
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