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| Jan. 7, 2014 southernson | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: where are all the pitchers Caveman, I understand your point, it's well taken and respected. And I've never been hit, but had some close calls. I just don't prefer it and MOST pitchers don't prefer it as well. Just like most pitchers don't prefer to wear hockey shin guards. But occasionally you see "Earl" puts them on and go to the mound. Just believe the linking of the DBO rule and pitcher mask rule speaks for itself. And IMO humble opinion, choice with a waiver is a better option. Where does it stop? 1B, 3B, perhaps more? DOLFAN, You are right, there are more shaved bats in Senior Softball than anyone will openly talk about. And as a pitcher, many times just by sound I'll lay odds that the bat just used was shaved. But is the solution to put protective gear on the pitcher? IMO, I don't think so. Thanks for listening... |
| Jan. 7, 2014 southernson | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: where are all the pitchers wyo22, I hate the mask and it's got problems of it's own. 1) Peripheral vision is significantly reduced 2) You will have more balls come up the middle, guys don't avoid it as much, what the heck, he's wearing a mask... it actually becomes a target. Guys who wear masks seem to get hit at more. 3) Ever try diving for a ball with the mask on? Count on getting cut or scraped on the face when your body hits the ground. 4) It's way hot, really hot. I can see the lawsuit for SSUSA coming, pitcher has sensitive skin, hot summer day causes a rashlike facial infection, infection penetrates the ears or eyes, SSUSA made me wear it, yeah, really great idea. And what happens when there's a broken arm, hand or leg from a shot up the middle? You think a lawyer is going to have a hard time making a correlation between the DBO rule and the requirement to wear a mask? In determiningg that 3-5 times as many balls are now hit up the midddle and that while the intent was to protect the pitcher, in reality SSUSA increased the chances that the pitcher might be injured. So who's going to pay the doctor and hospital bill for my client's permanent injury to his arm? And the pain and suffering damages? 5) It's goofy as hell. Almost looks like the guy just got off the short bus from school. That's right, I said it. Goofy looking as hell. 6)In 30+ years of softball and over 3000 plus games, which boils down to about 15,000+ innings, or 300,000+ pitches, I have seen a pitcher get hit in the face--- once. 7)With only a small percentage of pitchers wearing masks now, there's no real data on the downside or possible problems. 8)We have all seen the commercials and know what tragic events can happen... If SSUSA forces the pitcher to wear a mask, more balls will be hit up the middle at you. And since more balls will be hit at you in the middle, you will be seriously injured in the arm or leg. And to go with your injury will be a nasty rash on your face. And when you get a rash on your face, no women will want you. And when no women want you, you will go insane. And when you go insane, your family must pay for treatment in the insane asylum. And when your family must pay for treatment in the insane asylum, your kids can no longer afford to obtain training with sufficient knowledge to acquire work skills. And when your kids can't afford to acquire sufficient knowledge to to have work skills, they turn to a life of crime, go to jail, and Bubba makes them comb the hair on his chest. Don't send your kids to jail and make them comb Bubbas hair on his chest. Stop the mask wearing requirement and just have the pitcher sign the waiver. |
| Jan. 6, 2014 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: SSUSA shares DBO rationale Senior There is a corequisite relationship between the home run DBO rule and rule change which requires the pitcher to wear a mask. And that is a bad thing for the game..... IMO, rule changes to the game to solve division issues that SSUSA created and has full control over are a band aid for the symptom, rather than a solution for the problem with the Major Plus division. There has to be a better way.... |
| Dec. 31, 2013 southernson | Topic: Bats Discussion: Shaved Bats rdrman66, " Worry about other things, this really isn't a issue for senior bats". I'm not sure what happy planet you are on, but Stevie Wonder is definitely driving the bus. I can assure you that bat shaving in seniors is routinely done at all levels of teams we have faced. I think you would be significantly surprised.... |
| Dec. 19, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: How about a discussion on ow we think dbos will effect our games? And our assumptions why. 1B is obviously no longer the sloth position.....It's now the pitcher, or as SSUSA has said, "put a mask on that mug"!!! |
| Dec. 17, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: players please respond to rule changes PattyMac, You hit the nail on the head, "not many playing years left", and I'm glad you started the thread. I don't subscribe to the "We should all just be happy to play no matter what the rules are". That type of opinion usually comes from someone that doesn't pay the entry fee about 99.99% of the time. So let's get this straight, a team pays $4700 in travel expense, comes out of the loser bracket, has played 4 games that day, get's to the championship, and with the championship game on the line, a gap hitter hits a walkoff home run with 2 outs but goes home a loser because of DBO? That's not in the spirit of the game, period. 3 point shot from 27ft to win the game, oops, you already hit 12 3's, so that one is only a 2 and you lose. It's a long 47 pass to the end zone with time running out, but alas you've already had 4 passes of 45+ yards, so that winning touchdown comes off the board and you lose. It's a shot on goal, off the stick, oh no, you've already had 2 off the stick deflected goals, so this one doesn't count and you lose. Add in, one more point, oh no, an ace on the serve, and you've already had 12 aces in this set, so you lose. It's a 32 yard putt, in the bottom for the win, but wait, you've already had 5 putts this round go in from 20+ feet, so you lose. It's just crazy and not well thought out. You gotta wonder what was in the glass when this rules discussion happened. There is no positive value to this rule change. Sorry guys, somebody in the group of 11 let Stevie drive the limo on this one.....straight into the ditch. |
| Dec. 17, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: players please respond to rule changes This is not two rule changes that are independent - Over Limit HRs are DBOs, Pitcher has to wear a mask. They are by design connected. SSUSA is saying, we are going to make Over Limit HRs a DBO, so by doing that we know there are going to be a lot more balls hit in the middle, and knowing that......pitchers must wear a mask. This is a bad change for everybody...period. |
| Dec. 12, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: players please respond to rule changes One of the success barometers in setting up guidelines for a group or process is that have a foundation of consistency. Clearly that hasn't been the case with the HR rule or the pitcher rules. Sign a piece of paper, no, forget that, now you have to wear a hockey mask. Homers over the limit are outs, no they are walks, no they are outs...Cmon guys, you had it right and now you have just fell off the truck on this one. Again.....In a small group of 12, there's usually 2 or 3 that sway everything, it's just the way things work with a small group. And it went badly this year..... Is there a published discussion or writeup of why the rule change? Something simple, like SSUSA changed the home run rule because it makes the game better by....???? The pitcher's no longer have the choice of wearing a mask by signing a waiver, because we felt if everybody wore the mask the game would be better because....???? Do you think a majority vote would turn out with those two decisions? A rhetorical question at best...of course not. |
| Dec. 10, 2013 southernson | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: New rule Have to wear a mask? Forced to wear a mask? If that's the case, I'm done, I will never pitch another SSUSA game if I have to wear a mask. The game I love has become too absurd mostly by non-players. |
| Dec. 6, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: What do you do for arthritis I find that Blondes seem to help. |
| Dec. 2, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Playing Time You do control the rotation of sitting right? And you don't sit players whole games do you? That's called self inflicted suicide and there is no solution. It's about total innings played. And situations will dictate the time to sub your weakest and strongest players. Another help in games you know are big is to sub early and use them as starters, because crunch time doesn't occur in innings 1-4 that often. So when innings 5-7 (where games are won) come up, you have what you want. It's not an easy problem to solve, but that helps. |
| Nov. 15, 2013 southernson | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: finding results of tournies There's no special anything needed. It's called, email the scores as they occur, someone receives them and updates the PDF document that already exists for the brackets (that's if you don't have the laptop at the site), at the end of the day the PDF doc gets published to the website. Easy routine stuff, it's just not a priority. |
| Nov. 14, 2013 southernson | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: finding results of tournies Chief144, With all due respect your response is laughable. They are called entry "FEES" for a reason. I'm sorry it ain't volunteer work skippy..... Yeah, recording 5 results an hour to a web page, ooh, that's a tough one. And all the bitheads just chuckled... |
| Nov. 12, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: winter worlds Thanks for the info Tim, appreciate it. |
| Nov. 11, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: winter worlds Anyone have any results from the 50Major or 55's? Thanks in advance... |
| Nov. 10, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Thanks to SSUSA SSUSA, A heartfelt thanks first to Tiffany and Stephanie at the SSUSA office. Much appreciation for your professional support in helping new players register, answering questions, and making roster adjustments. To the SSUSA team, a well organized run tournament with excellent support from the field representatives at the North Collier Park, thanks Mike and Cal. It was also good to see Joe, UIC and some familiar umpires who we know can be counted on for a quality effort & performance. Overwhelmingly a really good crew. Yes there was one weak link who we all know as well, it seems "vision care" are still familiar terms to you....painful man, just painful to watch, but at least this time that pain was shared with the other team. It gave us a laugh or two. And finally, to the staff at North Collier Park, Gary/Bobby, nice meeting you guys, thanks for the kindness and help. That's just a beautiful facility, it makes you want to play ball just looking at the field. Thanks as well. |
| Nov. 6, 2013 southernson | Topic: Teams looking for players Discussion: Player needed for National post concluded....thanks. |
| Nov. 5, 2013 southernson | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Just A Casual Observation 4x4, Thanks for the post and thanks to SSUSA for providing the board. It's a good reminder for such a positive vehicle that has become a part of the routine. And yes, message board life is better in the years AG. |
| Nov. 4, 2013 southernson | Topic: Teams looking for players Discussion: Player needed for National Work changes will have two players miss a SSUSA National tournament in Naples, FL. So this provides two openings for players, specific positions needed - SS type infielder or P. Playing Major level so need players to come from top AAA, or a M/M+ team from Florida. If you are interested, please email HLLAMF@gmail.com or call 904-982-9954. Thanks... Florida Classics 2011 FHC State Champion 2012 SSUSA National AAA Champion 2012 SPA Worlds AAA Champion |
| Oct. 25, 2013 southernson | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Suspensions Softball4b, You hit the target with the bottom line, well said. |
