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Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

SSUSA Staff.....I understand it's easier to keep the status quo but...

When something has had the problem Plus ball has had, I would think..... the powers to be would try to think outside the box...

If it's not a "tuff concept to grasp".....

How about grasping what's been keeping the Plus divisions so limited in team numbers AND SHARING YOUR BELIEFS WITH US?

It's my belief dynasty type teams remaining year after year in plus ball are one of the main reasons...

Is it that hard to grasp..

what works in every other division in SSUSA, removing dynasty teams from the division...should be worth trying in the Plus divisions.

If I were in charge of trying to grow the Plus division in SSUSA..I would limit Plus Champions to no more then Six plus champions on their roster till they reach the next age group....can you grasp that concept and enlighten me to my ignorance?....

Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

I guess what it comes down to is a dislike for the dynasty teams that want a merger with major because they don't want to play the same couple teams all the time....

If you want to play against the best....make sure no inferior major teams are forced into your bracket.

As it is.....,many players win multiple world rings in Plus..that is very rare in any of the thriving SSUSA AA, AAA, Major divisions.
Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

Meant to say....top four in ach event.
Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

Staff,, you listed 20 plus teams and half of them were the same teams...
Is that possible in any other division of SSUSA?

Also...you failed to list the four four in each event also...how many of those teams that didn't win would have been bumped in the lower levels..

As an example our MTC 50 team never won a ring or playedin the championship game yet we were bumped from a Division.
Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

SSUSA staff..

How many of those champions would have still been playing in the division Worlds they "won" if roster restrictions in Plus were the same as in all your other Divisions?

You know...all the other divisions that are NOT having the same problems as Plus ball!!!!

Please remember you guys bump dominate teams during the season and after for not winning but instead dominating the division they are in.

Maybe instead of listing teams, you can enlighten us on why roster restrictions on dominat teams in the AA, AAA and Major Divisions are good for the health of those programs BUT the same rule doesn't merit support in the limited teams Plus Divisions?
Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

Alan, many other senior teams want to play with the same friends year after year. But...many teams get bumped and have to make player changes.

I guess it's my belief that those forced to compete changes should not stop at the Plus level.

I gave hitting lessons to many of the old A's players (now playing 70 seniors) they have over 28 world rings...almost none of them from below the Plus level.

The Mavericks one year were something like 112-3....last year Summerville was 49-3...

I seem to recall the team Mario played on from back east was proudly saying they had not lost a game east of the Mississippi for two years..

I do not believe dynasty's like these are healthy for any individual softball program.

I believe that if teams like summersville/Mavericks type and the Winners of last years Plus worlds were all limited to no more then 6 Plus champion/bumped players, until they reach the next age group, it would turn over the top and entice more teams to move up...

Breaking up around two teams/25 players into four or more teams instead of two in each plus division should be worth trying...

As for the friendship thing on teams goes...I to have many softball friends on my team...

I have been to exactly one of their houses for a dinner...that's why they are softball friends...would I want to lose any of them from my team? NO...then again...out MTC team has lost at least 10 softball friends from our roster as we age/try to stay competitive.

Last years 50 plus world for SSUSA was well attended..if they can keep numbers like that it would be great...but...from past observation.....'14 was an anomaly..

We are now playing 55 Major Plus ball...I

I hear that division has even less support.

Something has to be tried to grow Plus programs...nothing so far has seemed to work for all the Plus programs...why not try something that seems to work in every other level of senior ball...eliminating the dominant teams/rosters that are dominating.

Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

Alan, it's good have you on this thread.

To open a discussion on my belief that allowing a group of players to continue to dominate any one division is harmful to that divisions ability to grow..I asks

Think back to what happened to AA when spectrum and Hague stayed intact year after year while domination AA...

Do you think this was an incentive or a negative when it came to A teams wanting to mover up...

Maybe move on to how Utrip Major and asa Super divisions of youngster softball have been unable to attract enough teams to have a stand alone division.

It is my belief a large part of the problems in those two youngster divisions is exactly what's been holding senior plus programs numbers down...ie...allowing individual groups of players to dominate year after year.

As an example...in another thread about the top senior players one of summerville's players said they were something like 102-8 last year.

In seniors...many groups of friends disband every year instead of move up to, in their minds, be cannon fodder at the next level.

It is my belief the breaking up of teams/friends for the betterment of the health of softball should not stop at the Plus level.

Removing dynasty teams from AA, AAA, Major is a proven asset to senior ball.

Please enlighten me as to why it would not be as valuable for the Plus Division.
Feb. 16, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

SSUSA staff...I think you are over looking the point that in every other SSUSA division the dominate teams and their players get rated to a higher level.

This allows for bumped teams in AA, AAA to believe they have a chance to compete in the next level.

It should be obvious by investigation into EVERY age group of softball that...allowing dominant teams to continue to dominate any individual division does NOT lead to many teams moving up.
Feb. 15, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

Perl, I think it will be great to see how many SSUSA major teams are pulled away, and decide to support ISSA instead...

I have to think??? There will be few to no SSUSA teams leaving their major world program to join the merged ISSA thing.

I am sure SSUSA will be paying attention IF..the merger thing has any legs.

BUT...I doubt very much that any Major team planning on supporting SSUSA are going to leave to get beat up on by the elite Plus teams.

Sorry...I just don't think the merger thing will hold water except for a few major teams that have almost no travel costs to go to ISSA.
Feb. 14, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

Ring winning major teams
Feb. 14, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

I go along with jarwoods idea as long as you allow Bumped ring wing Major teams to return to the major division with no more the 6 players.
Feb. 13, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How to get more teams willing to play in the Major-plus division

Limit the amount of returning players to 6 for national World winners until the champions reach the next age group.

Turning over the top teams each year works in all other senior divisions...it would help the major plus program also.
Feb. 13, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: Associations
Discussion: Thoughts on the new ISSA Super Divisions?

Not a good move...

maybe SOME seniors have not been paying attention to the young softballers but...EVERY division infested with national all star teams shrinks in team numbers..

SSUSA and SPA should be happy a competing association is hurting their chance to compete with them.
Feb. 5, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: "Correcting a downswing, brings BIG results." Swing Makeover Episode 26

Leelee, you drop your back side and hands and we will be having a little talk.
Jan. 6, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Do you use senior bats in non tournament games/leagues?

There are a couple day time city senior leagues in our area that allow senior bats...

But the night time city senior leagues around here do not allow senior bats.
Jan. 4, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Nancy, I am sorry about being a little over aggressive with my initial reply.

I will put some of the blame for my over reaction to how much crap I got when I helped push the 1-1 count into our Concord league.

In the end...only a small minority of league players did not end up liking the change..

With 65 minute time limits, the 1-1 count averaged awarding us at least one more inning per game of actual softball play.

As for tourneys and the 1-1 count..before it was installed in no time limit brackets of play some brackets would get as far off as 3 hours...the 1-1 count drastically reduced the scheduled time over runs.

I have to admit...I am a HUGE fan of the 1-1 count...it redices the down time during games,, helps a good pitcher a little, it keeps games on schedule...

Jan. 2, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Second to last paragraph should have read...gave us more INNINGS to actually play softball
Jan. 2, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Nance and Bruce.

Let's make this a teachable moment on some of the facts....

USSSA incorporated the 1-1 count in an effort to speed up tourney games in the major and AA events that were going ways over the bracketed time posted on the tourney bracket.

These events had no game time limits/always went the full seven other then run rule...

so your IGNORANT view that it was initially used....

"to cheat players out of full games" is neive and just flat out wrong...

This 1-1 rule allowed Major and AA events to stay closer to on schedule.

It was in no way meant to cheat teams out of innings. This should be obvious because innings were never removed from those games.

The same goes for the next move USSSA made with the 1-1 count....many leagues went to 1-1 to try to get Innings of play....that in my view is giving your customer more chances to actually PLAY instead of sit and watch a batter watch yet another hit able pitch go by.

As for Nancy's neive shortened games theory...

All the leagues I played in...concord, walnut creek, pleasant hill, Pinole, Pittsburg, Brentwood, Pleasanton. Orinda were the same.....

When the league went to the 1-1 count..all games times were NEVER shortened...ie....all the teams still had the same mount of time to play...they were never "cheated" out of any time...what the 1-1 count did was speed up the time for a batter to swing which...helped out the pitchers a little, and gave all of us more innocent nags to actually play softball.

We can leave out the USSSA 1-1 no rule education for another time...;-)
Jan. 2, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Signs of getting softball older

1) You will not play night games
2) You are scared to play like the youngsters with a 1-1 count
3) you are scared to play like the youngsters with homerun limits
4) they sell wintercrest at your tourneys
5) they hand out heart related health info at your events
6) your team needs pitch runners
7) you spend three days playing five games in a tourney
8) you fear facing USSSA pitching while you used to love that game
9) when roids are refered to during a game its "hemerrh" instead of "ste"
10) even with senior bats it's hard to hit a homerun
11) you get to play defense with 11 players and even then..the other team gets five runs almost every inning.
12) every five years you get to be the YOUNG GUY.


Jan. 1, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Please Forgive My Naivete!

In my late 20s for a few years I was all about winning.

A teammate of mine..Jeff Peterson who won all world at the utrip World Series and a AA MVP and I used to argue endlessly about the goals of playing softball.

I would argue that winning was what made it fun...he would counter...if your having fun your winning.

In the end...Jeff, I believe was right....

Since then...my main goal is to be a part of a group that has fun whether we win or lose...and you know what? When you achieve that...the game is fun no matter what.

In NorCal we get to play NCSSA....win or lose we all get five games...in ssusa no matter what...we get to play seeding games at at least two bracket games...as long as no surprise that ne gets hurt and we are competitive alls well...

Now....the only frustrations I get in softball are when I let my team down....when a teammate fails...all it is, is, another thing to poke fun about...

I am fortunate to be part of a Great group of people on our team..

We don't cut players to get better...

we play everyone that shows up at the game all season long (except for the double elim of the world) many times our line up starts where the last out the game before ended.

Our MTC 55 Jaycee team is great to be a part of.
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