SIGN IN:   Password     »Sign up

Message board   »Message Board home    »Sign-in or register to get started

Online now: 0 members ; 32 anonymous
Change topic:

Details for JBeaz

Real name:



Messages posted by JBeaz »Message board home   »Start a new discussion

April 4, 2012
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 2012Spring Nationals Auburndale Florida

Corky - I'm not sure what the requirements are. In all honesty, I was surprised we weren't moved up before that. Before becoming the South Florida Renegades, we played as Morgan Keegan and were fortunate enough to win a few tournaments. It wasn't like we were beating other teams bad, but we were winning against some good team, some of them were Major Plus.

Most of the players felt like we were fortunate to stay under the radar as long as we did.

IMO, moving a team up shouldn't be based on how many homeruns they hit or what tournament they won, but how well they compete against good competition. If you play as a Major team and can beat the Major Plus teams with the equalizer, maybe its time you moved up and play them straight up.
April 3, 2012
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 2012Spring Nationals Auburndale Florida

Congratulations to Crosscut, Good Times and all the other 2012 Spring National Champions.


While you are right that a 50+ Major team beat a 50+ Major Plus team - twice, there are a couple things that could be debated in this particular case.

1. Should the South Florida Renegades actually be classified as 50+ Major Plus? We (yes I play for the Renegades) received that classification because we won the ISA World Tournament last year in Cocoa Beach, Florida. In winning that tournament I think there were only four 50+ Major teams, one 55+ Major Plus team and one 60+ Major Plus team. So even though this was a World Tournament, does the number of actual 50+ Major teams warrant reclassifying the winner as Major Plus?

The bottom line here is that we went into the ISA World Tournament knowing the winner automatically would be reclassified as Major Plus. So if we didn't want that to happen, we should have stayed home and let it happen to someone else.

We also could have folded, cut half the team, cried, wined or any number of things happens when a team gets reclassified. We chose to keep the team together and play on. This was our first tournament as a Major Plus team playing against Major teams. Giving runs or an extra fielder is tough and we learned some things this weekend that will make us a better team in the future.

2. Should Good Times (the Spring National winner) be classified as 50+ Major Plus? They're a good team and I'm sure both sides could give you a good arguement whether they should or shouldn't be a Major Plus team. I'll leave that debate to someone else.

3. Saturday's games were rained out in the afternoon and pushed back to Sunday morning. All the games except the games in progress and the finals were cut to 5 innings. In our case, the Major teams had the choice of using an extra defensive player or getting 4 runs. Talk about tough! In my opinion the number of runs we had to give the Major teams should have been cut to 3. Giving an extra run in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th inning is just too much. But that's what the Tournament Director decided so it is what it is.

The bottom line is we didn't hit as well as we should have. Had we scored our 5 every inning and taken advantage of the open inning (like we did in other games) we would have been more competitive. We may have lost to Good Times anyway, but we definately would have made it more difficult.

I also agree with your main point. Each age group could be reduced to an Upper and a Lower division. But then you'd have all the not-as-strong Major teams try to drop down to the lower division and I'm sure the legitimate AA teams wouldn't be looking forward to having to face the AAA teams every tournament.

Here's an idea to throw into the mix. Now that Good Times has won their birth to the 2013 TOC as a Major team, have them play any other SSUSA tournaments as a Major Plus team. Do the same for the AAA winners and the AA winners. The only exception to not playing in the next higher division would be the SSUSA World Tournament where they would be able to compete in the original division - unless they win a tournament in the next higher division. Clear as mud right.....

John Beasley
South Florida Renegades
Feb. 16, 2010
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 50 Major TOC

Hey Vinnie, thanks for the congrats. I think this is Vinnie from Windy City? Congratulations to you guys also. I know you would have much rather have taken the title, but I'm sure you there are many others in your future.

I didn't get a chance to meet you, but Con speaks highly of you and you certainly didn't do anything to prove his assessment wrong. I hated seeing you and the left fielder leave to catch your flight. Okay, I didn't hate it too much since you stole a hit from me but it would have been nice to end the tournament with both teams at full strength.

You guys take care and have a good, safe year. I'm sure we'll see you around the campus.

John Beasley
Senior Softball-USA
Phone: (916) 326-5303
Fax: (916) 326-5304
9823 Old Winery Place, Suite 12
Sacramento, CA 95827
Senior Softball-USA is dedicated to informing and uniting the Senior Softball Players of America and the World. Senior Softball-USA sanctions tournaments and championships, registers players, writes the rulebook, publishes Senior Softball-USA News, hosts international softball tours and promotes Senior Softball throughout the world. More than 1.5 million men and women over 40 play Senior Softball in the United States today. »SSUSA History  »Privacy policy

Follow us on Facebook