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, Dec. 5, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Scoring of Runs - Question concerning interpretation of Section 5.7

I don't remember the year the Committee made that change, but do recall the discussion ... Your presumption that under the old rule the R2 run would not have counted is correct ... Changing sub-part 3. to read: "..A preceding runner is declared out on an appeal play. appeal involving a force play..." prevented the defense benefiting, in effect, by having no penalty for throwing the ball out of play ... The Committee decided that awarding R2 the remedy to which he was entitled, the advance to home, should take precedence over a subsequent dead ball appeal on R3 ... The only way to ensure that proper order was maintained was making a properly timed live ball appeal the first priority, the base award for the ball out of play the second, and the dead ball appeal for R3 leaving early the third ... The change was also consistent with the general rule that the run NEVER scores when the final out of a half-inning at bat is a force out ... Hope this helps! ...


, Dec. 5, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Sun rule

NYGNYY ... I attempt to avoid "sun fields" when we have the field availability to do so, most notably when brackets slim down to two fields or single-file on Championship Thursday/Sunday ... Individual field directors have the authority to do so if I missed it on the initial schedule ... Prior to that, field availability as measured against games demand most times does not allow that luxury ... Most players voice opposition to playing later in the evening or at night, which is the practical result of creating holes in the schedule to let fields be open based on sun position ...

From the SSUSA side of it, most lessors charge us by the hour for usage from first game of the day through the last, including times for seeding breaks, open game slots, etc. ... The only exceptions are Big League Dreams sites, which imposes a flat rate per game played ... Too many "blanks" we have to pay for could have the result of higher entry fees to cover the cost of this change in scheduling philosophy and efficiency ...


, Dec. 5, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: winter worlds

There were two women's 40-Masters divisions and the 50+ Seniors division ... The game scores and bracket results for the event are complete and available from the Tournament event page of this web site ... They were posted about two weeks ago ...
, Dec. 4, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Sun rule

Sisavic ... I can only share my own observations and opinion on the principal rationale for the repeal since I didn't speak to the matter when it was open for what turned out to be a very short discussion on the motion to repeal ...

My sense of the Committee's stance (as evidenced by the unanimous 13-0 vote) appeared to be: [1] Softball is an outdoor game and to legislate rules against the non-safety-risk natural environmental elements is improper; [2] Requiring the pitcher to move from his normal delivery position is an unreasonable mandate that disrupts the pitcher's normal delivery routine and defensive posture; [3] Moving the pitcher distorts the strike mat/zone functional dimensions to something other than a 90 positioned, straight-ahead 19" by 34" rectangular target; and [4] Rule Book 6.16 was designed to protect pitchers when the sun position creates a safety risk to the pitcher, but there is no analogous safety risk to batters (or their batting averages) justifying retaining the rule ...

NOTE: There was no commentary presented by any members of the Committee, or the public observers, in favor of retaining the 2015 rule ...


, Dec. 3, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Sun rule

The SSUSA National Rules Committee has settled this issue. See the Minutes from this year's sessions available from this web site.
, Nov. 29, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

B.J. - NO ... The Dead Ball Appeal is available to the defense before the next pitch in the event the umpire called "time" before [1] the runner returned to 1B after the overrun, AND/OR [2] before the defense tagged him or the 1B white bag, which in effect terminated the Live Ball Appeal prematurely ...
, Nov. 29, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

B.J. and coop3636 ... Here's a bit of a diplomatic response, but you both could be correct, depending on the timing, on this limited fact pattern, which EXCLUDES the "avoidance of a collision" exception ...

Until the umpire calls "time", the Live Ball Appeal (LBA) rules, which we explained to B.J. a while back, are in effect: If the defender tags either the runner or 1st base before the runner returns to touch 1B in a live ball situation, he is out on a successful live ball appeal ...

After the umpire calls "time": IF "time" is called before the batter/runner returns to 1st, such as on overrun situation with no intention to advance to 2nd, missing 1st base may result in an out on a dead ball appeal if the appeal made before the next pitch ... IF "time" was called after the runner returned successfully to 1B and absent a LBA, the batter is safe and there is no further appeal available ...

Those are the potential results, all based on live vs. dead ball appeal AND timing of the runner returning to 1B ... Hope this helps ...


, Nov. 27, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Bats
Discussion: A Question 4 U Bat/Math Geeks

This sounds a lot like the grade school math quiz: "Two trains are on the same track at a distance of 100 miles apart heading towards one another, each at a speed of 50 MPH. A fly starting out at the front of one train, flies towards the other at a speed of 70 MPH. Upon reaching the other train, the fly turns around and continues back towards the first train. How many miles does the fly travel before getting squashed in the collision of the two trains?" ... I can't figure that one out either!


, Nov. 24, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: The 1 day Tourney Movement

raiderman66 ... It's no surprise to me that not many tournaments have 210 teams because I write all of the schedules for SSUSA Administered events! ... There are only three 200+ events, Phoenix, Reno and Las Vegas in the World Masters ...

We're not sure where your poorly reasoned "..line [its] pockets.." theory comes from ... SSUSA certainly spends more on its own travel costs, rental cars, director's compensation, umpire housing and field rentals in a longer event ... Maybe you're confused because you've played in some other association events where there was a "stay to play" requirement for their favored hotels, but never in an SSUSA event ... SSUSA makes player-favorable rate deals at less than standard "rack rates" with host/headquarter hotels in most places, but you're on your own and are in no way required to use them ... You can stay in any hotel, private residence, RV park, your car or campground you wish, we don't care ...

The 2017 SSUSA Tournament Guide will be published in the next few weeks, but don't spend too much tinme on it looking for one-day events ... There won't be any ... The safety of your couch is an excellent place for you to research other associations to see if you can find many/any of your preferred quickie one-day format ... Good luck and play safely!


, Nov. 23, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: The 1 day Tourney Movement

The answer to the "bigger question" is exactly that: The events that are bigger than just your team's division ... It's a common self-focused attitude for many players that the event is all about their own 6-team division and not about the size of the overall multi-age and multi-division event ... We had a couple of 6-team divisions in Phoenix ... They were part of a MUCH larger 210 team tournament that filled a LOT of fields over seven complexes simultaneously ... The usual Sunday finish times in SSUSA events call for 2:00 PM Championships and 3:30 PM "If" games ... Other factors for many seniors include a reluctance to play at or after dusk, a desire to limit the number of games played in a day and a desire to experience some of the local amenities in addition to the softball ... But if those more common desires are too much for your travel appetite, we encourage you to seek out the little 1-day events and play as much as you can! ... Good luck and play safely ...


, Nov. 23, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: shirt vendor in Phoenix

tg ... Please call the Sacramento office at (916) 326.5303 during business hours Left Coast time and anyone who answers will provide it ... Privacy policy prevents us posting it without her consent ahead of time ...
, Nov. 21, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: shirt vendor in Phoenix

Marjie Patterson from Tournament Sports Arizona
, Nov. 21, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

I think there will be somewhere around a 0.04% of softball facilities that will sink new base anchor systems for this; and
I think there will be somewhere around a 99.96% player objection rate to using the flat little orange throw-downs as an alternative to make this happen!

If you want runners veering wide, maybe consider a "safe" line analogous to the "scoring line" and keep the batter-runner completely away from 1B like we do at Home plate/Strike mat ... Crazier ideas have been implemented!


, Nov. 19, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

Here's the current formula: 800-mile Road trip to Phoenix + 210-team tournament + 33 fields over 8 complexes = No time for naps or that famous off-season exercise of "Stump the Ump" ... We will do some research on the Appeal issue and report back next week ...

B.J. and Mango As for the white bag/orange bag issue, that's an easy one, although often misunderstood ... Please carefully re-read Rulebook 8.4(1) ... The ONLY requirement imposed on a batter-runner is that he must touch the orange bag on a close play at first ... There is NOTHING in the rule prohibiting him from touching the white bag ... Umpires consistently miss this call by ruling "Batter is out because he touched the white bag" ... There is no such rule violation ... By Rule (properly applied) he's out ONLY if he fails to touch the orange bag ... Making contact with portions of both bags on the way by is NOT an infraction ... Ruling is: SAFE
, Nov. 17, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: UP TO DATE TOURNAMENT SCORES

"Perfect storm" situation in this 65-team session, guys! ... Me not working as a site-specific field director and the three guys who are doing a great job reporting in ... We'll see how it works with 145 teams on seven separate complexes spread over about 35-40 miles this weekend! ... But, heck, thanks!
, Nov. 8, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: injured player

You were just looking for a "Get Out of Jail Free" card ... Nice try!
, Nov. 4, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 70s AAA Players Looking for a Team

His posting history indicates it's VERY LIKELY Southern California
, Nov. 4, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Speed up rules

Good idea, NYGNYY ... THREAD CLOSED
, Oct. 30, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: field of choice for winter world,phoenix

Here are some other observations on facilities I am familiar with that Dbax omitted ...
EXCELLENT Thompson Peak/Grayhawk (4) and Vista del Camino (3) in Scottsdale and Big League Dreams (8) in Gilbert
VERY GOOD Horizon Park (4) and Chaparral Park (4) in Scotsdale and Rio Vista (4) in Peoria

Dbax - I didn't say nuttin' about (half of) Shadow Rock in Vegas!!


, Oct. 30, 2016
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: field of choice for winter world,phoenix

This outta be interesting! ... Phoenix has, top to bottom, arguably the finest collection of multiple softball complexes of any metropolitan area in the country ... The "worst" in Phoenix is better than the "best" in a whole bunch of other places! ... Have fun!
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