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Dave Dowell

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, Jan. 11, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: umpire interference

B.J. ... I would propose that the HP umpire got it completely right for the hypothetical presented ... It's inconceivable that the umpire would run into the 2B from behind on a soft line drive ... But if that's what happened, then the 2nd part of the determination would be in the mix ...
, Jan. 11, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: umpire interference

This isn't specifically covered in the SSUSA Rule Book, but here's an excerpt from the UmpireBible web site ... Obviously, the answer involves a two-umpire system, based on the hilarious comment made in parentheses at the end ...

"...[W]here an umpire is touched by a batted ball before the ball touches or passes an infielder, call interference on yourself immediately. Call "Time! That's interference!" Award the batter-runner first base. Other runners advance only if forced. (Your partner is laughing by now. Do what you can to recover your dignity and move on)..."


, Jan. 11, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

Actually, we do ... From Rule Book 6.2 PITCH COUNT ... "..will be allowed only 3 balls and/or 2 strikes, and all batters will start with a 1-1 ball/strike count.." ... Just makes more sense to use the universally understood shorter phrase "1-1" Count rather than your more lengthy suggestion, which is actually very close to the official definition cited above ...
, Jan. 10, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

Pssstt ... yerwombat ... I think ".. 2 strike[s] your out and 3 balls you walk.." is a very good/concise definition of the "1-1" starting pitch count concept ...
, Jan. 10, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

Yes ALLPRO, you whiffed the reading comprehension component on that one ... The "1-1" Count for the 2018 Season in SSUSA sanctioned play is only for the 40-Masters (men and women), the 50+ divisions (men and women) and the 55+ and 60+ divisions (men) ... Everyone else remains with the "0-0" Pitch Count starting point ...
, Jan. 10, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

Omar ... Last time around (December, 2012), the survey response rate was 29% (this time 23%) ... Here were the percentages in favor of the "1-1" Count both times ... Also, we did not ask the "with/without courtesy foul" question in 2012 ...

MEN supporting "1-1" in 2012 Survey / (2017 % in parentheses)
40+ - 72% / (81%)
50+ - 60% / (74%)
55+ - 57% / (65%)
60+ - 48% / (61%)
65+ - 40% / (54%)
70+ - 36% / (47%)
75+ - 33% / (43%)
80+ - 23% / (38%)

Support for the "1-1" actually increased in all age groups, even net of the five-year aging up factor ... For example, the 2012 60+ group was this year's 65+ group, and they represented essentially the same "break-even" group of players ... The overall preference flipped from about a 10% spread in favor of "0-0" last time to the 12% "1-1" preference converse this time ...


, Jan. 10, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

Possibly true, swing ... But I'm reasonably certain the percentage of 40-Masters Major and Major+ games to reach 7 innings last year was considerably higher than the same rating groups at 50+, for example ... Also, the 40-Major+ did not play 7-runs per -inning at bat last year, but will this year ... We should, with the luxury of 20-20 hindsight, have excellent empirical data on the actual effects of the "with" (50+) and "without" (40+) the courtesy foul debate, regardless of the rating level ...
, Jan. 10, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

Very interesting "post-election" commentary ... Regardless, here's what the Rules Committee actually did regarding its collective desire to make changes that would be [1] consistent with membership preference and [2] have a desired primary end result/goal of maximizing innings played within current game time structures ... The National Rules Committee ...

Deferred a (potentially less than fully informed) decision at the Convention last month to allow time for a Member Preference Survey on topic to get an updated sense of the members' desire for change, if any, from the previous 2012 survey;
Published the survey results timely, to allow a three-week public commentary period for submission of member input to the Committee through the acceptable channels (we received exactly TWO replies, one by a person who does not comment on our Message Board, and the other by one who does, but rarely);
Established a "1-1" starting count for all age Senior (50+ and older) groups that favored that structure by ≥ a 22% preference margin and left the "0-0" count intact for all other age groups that did not meet that margin;
Established a "courtesy foul" component to the rule, as favored (moderately to strongly) by each of the above described Senior age groups (Men's 50+, 55+ and 60+ and Women's 50+); and
Provided a calendar year 2018 trial period solely in order to compel the Committee to re-visit the issue at this year's Convention in Las Vegas rather than just sweeping it under the strike mat, never to be seen again ... This approach also allows the (generally ineffective) "player based" efficiency of play initiatives, that would arguably help in maximizing innings played, to occur ...

So, here are a couple other thoughts from just one member of the Committee speaking only for himself ...

It seems somewhat odd (and amusing) for the Rules Committee to be criticized for giving the membership exactly what they asked for in the Senior divisions of play; and
The vote results yesterday were by the narrowest of margins, requiring the Chair to cast the deciding tie-breaker ballot in both instances ... The Committee has done its part to structure a potential "maximize innings played" rules environment, and now may be the time for the players to do the same ... It would only take ONE vote being "flipped" at the next Rules Committee sessions later this year to completely change yesterday's actions ...

Carry on! ...


, Jan. 10, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

r4pitch ... It was the 40-AAA Division at BLD in Las Vegas ... 58 games played, 58 games to make it to at least the 7th inning ... A couple of games went extra innings ...
, Jan. 10, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Today's Big Vote

That's hilarious, NYGNYY and B.J. ... Thanks for the education on the concept ... However, a "rules auction" most likely isn't where we're headed, though! ... It's more fun to just approach Rules considerations as paupers ...
, Jan. 9, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

Nope ... The Original T.O.C. is a 2017 Season event and, as such, plays under the 2017 Rules set ... 40-Masters divisions will be the only age group at the Original T.O.C. playing the "1-1" Count ... The changes WILL be in effect for the upcoming Winter Classic in Bullhead City, AZ next week ...
, Jan. 9, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll...the Starting Count decision results.

For the full minutes, including the complete detail data analysis of the Member Survey on this topic, they're available from the download link in the Priority Message above ... The full data analysis splits all results by age, gender and geographic Club and League regions, and further splits the with/without the "waste foul" preference for those favoring the "1-1" count on the same basis ...
, Jan. 9, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Today's Big Vote

NYGNYY ... I'll "see" your $5 and a Pork Sandwich and "raise" you $5 and a Steak Sandwich (since you're buying!) ... I nailed it earlier on how the Rules Committee discussions/votes would play out ... The Committee Chair cast the deciding (tie-breaking) "7-6" vote in both cases during today's session, and the Minority of Six was NOT comprised of the same six Committee Members each time ... Discussion/debate was exactly as I predicted: lengthy and spirited! ... Official Minutes, including the full "1-1 Count" survey data detail report (Exhibit "A"), are posted ...


, Jan. 9, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Today's Big Vote

NYGNYY ... May be time for a "gut check" ... You'd be very surprised at the differences of opinion on the Rules Committee regarding 0-0 vs. 1-1, and if yes on 1-1, in what flavor ... I expect lengthy and spirited debate followed by close voting ... The Chairwoman votes only to break ties, and it happened in Auburn during the convention for this topic as it affected the 40-Masters division ... Stay tuned!
, Jan. 5, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1-1 or 0-0 Count

Email to: info@seniorsoftball.com with "Rules Committee" in the Subject line by the end of the business day 01/05/18 to allow time to forward to the committee members and evaluation.
, Jan. 2, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Curious End of Year Re-Rating

Nothing curious about it at all, and there will be a lot of those in the next month or so ... Here's the note from their team page ...

"12/27/17 - Moved back down to Major for TOC; move back up after TOC."

Teams play in the TOC at the rating level they were competing at when they won their bid to the TOC ...


, Jan. 2, 2018
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: How does a Team rated as a Major win a AAA world tounament

JBTexas ... That's March of 2015 and not 2017 ... But it's still very strange! ... The Oregon Crabs name didn't come into existence until January 2017 ... Previously, there were the Trachsel Auto Body (I and II) ... Their team page shows three ratings for them, all on 03/20/2015, at 60-Major, 50-Major and (lastly) 60-AAA until they aged up to 65's, also at AAA, on 10/14/2016, and changed their name to Oregon Crabs on 01/06/2017 ...
, Dec. 30, 2017
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: T.O.C. Florida 2018

Same answer as immediately above ► "..will be released shortly after the entry deadline of January 3rd ... Good luck! ..."
, Dec. 29, 2017
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: T.O.C. Florida 2018

Pretty funny ftroop13 ... Uncle Mike veered off the T.O.C. highway into the "ratings jungle" and a few others piled into the back of the pickup truck for the ride! ... Nothing like the most tiny opening to wedge into the ratings/roster critique discussion! ...

To nudge this back on point, the teams entered list will be released shortly after the entry deadline of January 3rd ... Good luck! ...


, Dec. 29, 2017
DaveDowell
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: T.O.C. Florida 2018

Pa ... We don't publicly discuss individual players here because almost all posters (including you) misrepresent the player's accurate rating index ("R/I") experience history, thereby creating a false inference about the specific player ...

That being said, here's the general rule ► A player who has attained age 50+ and also plays 40-Major (R/I=9) may play unrestricted on a 50-Major+ (R/I=9) team or as one of the three allowed "out of rating" roster players on a 50-Major (R/I=8) team, assuming he is otherwise eligible as to residency ... Please note that SSUSA does NOT rate players; we simply track the ratings of the teams they play with at the time(s) they played with the team ... We do not have an "impact player list" that would categorize individual players separate from other members of the team ...


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