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| Jan. 12, 2022 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: WHY ARE THESE OFFENSES CALLED DIFFERENTLY AAH BJ- this scenario CAN happen in your case-- if no runner except the runner on third were to advance, even on a hit, if the defense is an it's toes! |
| Jan. 11, 2022 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: WHY ARE THESE OFFENSES CALLED DIFFERENTLY BJ-- simply for understanding purposes: in your scenario, ball fielded by shortstop, thrown to second base for force out. R2, leaves 2nd base but second baseman throws to third to get lead runner BUT that runner can return to second base, and must be tagged to be out, then third base throws to first to get b/r who isn't running-- triple play! I have been a part of this scenario! |
| Jan. 10, 2022 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: WHY ARE THESE OFFENSES CALLED DIFFERENTLY Guys- 2 different scenarios: the runner on second MIGHT not have to advance in some scenarios i.e. force play on runner from first, the original runner could return. The batter does not have that option. If the batter ran past first without touching the base, that would constitute an appeal-- entirely different situation, as appeal makes the run scoring a timing play. My interpretation |
| Oct. 6, 2021 curty | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: major plus i see an easy solution to the M+ division- any team so classified may play in their appropriate age division, @ Major, with out said team using senior bats. I realize that may lead to some cheating, but it would be minor I hope. |
| Oct. 26, 2020 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: lost a greta player / person Senior Softball, the Northeast Region and the Baystate Bombers have lost a truly fine gentleman and player, with the passing of Mark "Woody" Davis this past week. Woody played with the Bombers, as shortstop, on many National, TOC, and Worlds teams, including our triple crown year. A great roommate and fun guy, he will missed by all that knew him. He and Mark "Buddha" Canagello hit more balls together than most of us will hit in a career. RIP and hit'em hard Woody. |
| May 5, 2020 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: You make the call i stand corrected DD, and i knew that! Stick, when the out is recorded after the runs score except as above, they count- doesn't matter which base is appealed. If you defense is appealing, it actually becomes a "new" play. |
| May 4, 2020 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: You make the call run scored before 3rd out (appeal)- counts. Again, any time run scores before 3rd out, it counts, unless b/r is put out before acquiring 1st base . Once runner has passed the base, he is assumed to have touched it and it then becomes an appeal play. This makes it a timing call. |
| May 4, 2020 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: DO RUNNERS RETURN B/r attempted to go to second- therefore he is assumed to have reached first- making this an appeal play. Even if 2 outs prior, runs scored before the out-- they count. Second scenario: every player & coach on the offensive team would be shouting-- touch the base!!! |
| Jan. 20, 2020 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Interference i would consider this- for this ruling- a timing play: Batter is out as interference occurred after batted ball, therefore completing his at bat. This situation returns runners to base occupied, meaning runner is not out. |
| Sept. 16, 2019 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Rule question a PINCH runner can go in any time ball is dead. |
| Aug. 22, 2019 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: toothpick after a league meeting involving the Board of directors and offended coach, a decision was made to "ask" the player to voluntarily remove the toothpick- only while at bat. Ump's written input stated that the ejection's were for language and attitude, including so close to his face that he was spat upon. I was surprised that said coach had no objection to ump doing more of his games! End of story |
| Aug. 21, 2019 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: toothpick lead off batter to start the game enters the batters box with a tooth pick in his mouth. Ump asks him to remove it, he refuses, saying it doesn't affect the game. Ump says he's not allowing it, ensuing argument gets a little heated. Manager gets involved, but ump prevails. This player is playing 3rd base and comes onto the field with the tooth pick again. Ump ejects him, citing both safety concerns and unsportsman conduct as it had been discussed previously. Ultimately, manager is also ejected resulting in a forfeit, as he was the pitcher. Manager retutned with a rule book demanding the ump show him any such rule. Anybody? |
| Aug. 14, 2019 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: courtesy runner/ batter Runners on 1st, CR on 2nd base, no out. Ground ball to 3rd base, fielder steps on the bag (forcing CR) then throws to 1st, safe there. Now CR comes to bat. Ruling was made that as he was no longer a runner he is allowed to bat! |
| June 13, 2019 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: interpretation my bad on "scoring line" as it was commit line. Runner called for out of base path went from second base to home plate in order to argue the commitment line violation. A part of the ensueing argument centered around the Coach calling time out before leaving his base & prior to the batter/runner being tagged. That one was a sticking point, but as time was NOT CALLED BY EITHER UMP, the play should have been a triple play. The coach was tagged, in jest, while arguing the call, so he could have been called out for that. My reasoning was he failed to touch bases in proper order. Some times it may be more expedient- league play- to satisfy everybody as best as we can and move on. My mentor as a rookie official told me- if neither team complains, the call is right. |
| June 12, 2019 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: interpretation situation: Bottom of last inning, bases loaded, no out, home team down 2 runs. Batter hits sharp single to left field. r1, (on 3rd base) scores, r2 (from 2b) attempts to score but throw will easily have him out at home, so he retreats to 3b- after crossing the scoring line. Catcher throws back to 3b ( no touch at plate), over throwing the 3rd baseman, at which time r3 (from 1st base) also retreats towards 2b. R3 is the coach. Ump calls runner r2 out for retreating. Immediately r3 begins arguing the call, leaving the base path to confront the ump. He is called out for that. Batter/ runner, confused of course, is then tagged out by short stop between 1b and 2b. Initial ruling is triple play. After 25 minutes of "discussion" the ruling is over turned concerning batter/ runner, who is returned to first base, w/ 2 outs. Next batter flies out- game over, sort of. Original discussion continues, with all offering opinions. My interpretation- triple play- game over initially. Have now been asked to submit this for official ruling. Any takers? |
| Dec. 27, 2018 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purpose of the rule Wayne- 3rd baseman tagged runner about 15' in front of base with intent to throw to first, but batter was nearly @ dugout- they were on 3rd base side. We were screaming to throw to first, but Ump made the call. |
| Dec. 26, 2018 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purpose of the rule stick- we had already discussed going 2nd to 1st to home- confident in the "normal DP" & then some. Runner on third was a little slow, as we had already seen when he didn't score on previous hit. I had the option of going to the plate after the out @ 2, but saw it all in front of me. Honestly, my thought was 3rd, then plate, but ump beat us to it. Guy on 3rd never left the base! |
| Dec. 24, 2018 curty | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purpose of the rule At Worlds @ Vegas a few years ago the following occurred: bases loaded, no outs, run#4 on 3rd base, run#5 on second. ground ball to pitcher, throw's to second ( to start dp), second base man, see's batter NOT running, throws to 3rd to get that runner, umpire calls batter out for walking towards dugout = triple play - no runs scored! I was second baseman! |
| Dec. 21, 2018 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: co-ed I have some ideas to try to keep it competitive, maybe E-M to HQ? One thing for sure, having played/ coached international, womens play @ senior level should not include same age group of men. Will put my thoughts on paper and pass along! |
| Dec. 17, 2018 curty | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: co-ed wondering if co-ed will be a National Division. If so, what will be specific rules? Mixed numbers, ages, levels? Maybe Nancy will answer? I have some thoughts but would like official answers if possible. Thanks! O & Happiest Holidays to all |
