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| Feb. 11, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: SAFE or OUT Dear Hank, What you described is not an APPEAL And Dave, I pretty much answered the post from the OP much in the same VERBAL manner as you.....so if you need some clarification, ASL is considered a form of verbalization. While not vocal, it is considered a language. Hence the term American Sign Language. I had a Catahoula Leopard dog years ago and he was a merle and they are usually born deaf. I used some sign language to teach him commands. He also followed the lead of my Miniature Schauzer. Any more hairs you care to split? |
| Feb. 11, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Pitchers attire "I treat people like they treat me." So following someone to another website and constantly making a post depicting a picture of a donkey with the caption, Wayne is a jackass! is how you want to be treated? That is some weird juju right there. And you wonder you have a problem with one person. I'll probably sign off for awhile just to keep from listening to you. You don't bother me. Just don't like listening to a grown(?) man cry. Sorry all, I broke one of my golden rules. Never argue with an idiot. They just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. |
| Feb. 10, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: SAFE or OUT If that was meant to be a joke, I'll tell my granddaughter who is hearing impaired. I am sure she'll get a kick out of it. |
| Feb. 10, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Pitchers attire Tim, it's always my fault isn't it? But, you're not the one he insults on a regular basis are you? He's obviously has some weird kind of obsession with me. I feel like I'm being stalked. If you could have witnessed the kind of mundane childish posts he made consistently about me, you would understand what I'm talking about. I deleted my account because I was tired of listening to the fool. Point blank, I get fed up with his crap!!! I might check ✔ this board once or maybe twice a week. Y'all can have him. chico, you have a nice day 😊 💛 ☺ 💕 ❤ |
| Feb. 10, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: SAFE or OUT That's not an appeal play. The runner 🏃♂️ is simply called out in your sitch. That is merely a continuation of play. Doesn't matter if they tagged legally or not. The runner 🏃♂️ makes it to 2B....then you can do a verbal appeal. Sorry boys 👦 and girls 👧.....jb is wrong again. |
| Feb. 9, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Pitchers attire jb....you must have low self esteem or an over inflated opinion of yourself. A normal person doesn't act in the manner you do, especially on social media. It is sadly and simply pathetic on your part. I know this is the first thing you will read early this morning on the Internet. Try not to be too upset. Sorry, not sorry. |
| Feb. 9, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: SAFE or OUT I don't think I've ever heard of a non-verbal appeal. In the OP, if a fielder has the ball and tags the runner before he returns to the base, they need to verbalize the runner missed first base, as they are considered acquiring the base. In this case, I believe the ball should remain live because the runner can return to the base without liability to be put out if time is called. The reason, first base is a run thru base. All that is required is a person with the ball touch the base and verbalize the appeal or the tag play as mentioned earlier before the runner returns. I will further elaborate a verbal appeal might suffice as SSUSA doesn't require a fielder be in contact with said base. MLB does uses the same mechanic that alan-23 used, which what was the discussion originated to be. When I worked HS baseball, we were instructed to call the runner 🏃♂️ out in this situation. A good example of an accidental appeal would be this play and F3 being pulled off the base. In digust, he turns around and kicks the bag and says nothing to alert the umpire of his intentions. |
| Feb. 9, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Force out or not Really the runner is only FORCED by the B/R becoming a runner 🏃♂️ If a runner does touch the next base (or not) the runner must touch the bases in reverse order, provided the runner is considered to be past said base. In RdLake's OP the runner from FIRST is out. |
| Feb. 8, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Force out or not Out |
| Feb. 8, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Infield Fly (not) So do I kill the play by waving my arms and shouting, "Dead ball! Dead ball!"? Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time on you. |
| Feb. 8, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Rule book T2, You told Randall where to find the SSUSA rules located on the homepage. BTW ~ I have them saved to a file on my phone. I've already read the resume you posted. No need to have a Sling Blade moment. |
| Feb. 8, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Commit line abuse Why did you post the definition then? I'm well aware of what it says. The definition and the rule are worded improperly. For example, the definition uses in the umpires judgment. The rule doesn't state as such. So in my judgment, it is play on, McDuff. Therefore, I wouldn't call it. I've tried to tell you on several occasions, some rules are wrong as written. There is at least one more mistake. I'll let you figure it out for yourself. |
| Feb. 7, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Infield Fly (not) fresnomdn, An untouched ball isn't an intentionally dropped ball. You can't drop something you didn't touch!!!!! Your umpire should have just let the play go. |
| Feb. 7, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Commit line abuse bj, So essentially you're going to call the batter or runner out and return the runner(s) to their TOP pitch base per SSUSA rules. I guarantee you, you're going to be getting an earful from the whole defensive team. If you will read it, it comes off like an infield fly is an immediate dead ball also. An infield fly is not an immediate dead ball as you (may/may not) know runners can advance at their own risk. It also says, fielder then switches to an infielder (oxymoron). Then it says judgment call. If you say it is self-explanatory, no wonder you have difficulties. I damn sure wouldn't call it a dead ball and not let it play out. I AM TALKING ABOUT A BATTED BALL THAT THE FIELDER LETS INTENTIONALLY HIT THE GROUND WITHOUT TOUCHING IT. |
| Feb. 7, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Interference? T2, You're one of those that I sometimes come across who are just so wrong that you can't even have a decent discussion with them because the sheer amount of BS they are spewing is too overwhelming. I've been around these forums so long, especially officiating, to see right thru you. You believe belittling someone makes you look smart. Saying somebody is wrong doesn't necessarily make you right. You're one of those that I generally refer to as Smitty. However, you're Smitty Classic. If you want to discuss softball, feel free. I've worked big boy ball being behind the plate with the pitcher throwing 95 MPH where you have to bear down on every pitch for three hours. Up and down. Up and down......9 or sometimes more, innings, 100-degree heat, full plate gear........then work a second game on the bases.....or vice versa. Funny how as you use the term, picking nits. As of right now, you are picking more nits than a father/son gorilla tandem who knows they're being filmed by National Geographic. As far as the enlightening of the forum, I'll leave that to you, Mr. Big Dog. Now if you want to play nice, I will respond similarly. As of right now, you have two options. 1)STHU 2)See # 1 I could elaborate further, but you ain't worth the time and trouble. |
| Feb. 7, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Interference? T2, You're a hoot. Seems you like to answer questions with a question. I suppose when you say illegal slide, you're referring to illegal contact? Or you won't find the words illegal slide in the rulebook? I'm not here to play stupid mind games. Never underestimate your opponent. No matter how long the odds, they're still going to play the game. |
| Feb. 7, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Rule book T2, You assumed wrong. Perhaps you should show the same respect you demand first. So do you work in a league that uses SSUSA? |
| Feb. 7, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Pitchers attire Bj, The rule only specified batting gloves and I thought you were one of those guys that went by the letter or the rule? You've said as much prior. GO CHIEFS!!!! |
| Feb. 6, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Interference? Dear Turning2, I'm fully aware of what is a legal slide and what isn't legal. Played a lot of middle infield myself and knew how to protect myself also. So if you're implying I'm a dirty player, you'd be wrong. |
| Feb. 6, 2021 Wayne 37 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Commit line abuse So you're saying essentially it is against the rules to let a fly ball drop to the ground without touching it? So what's the call? Another rule that needs a little verbiage tweaking if I do say so myself. |
