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Dec. 21, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Should there have been a call

Here's one thing that needs to be taken into consideration. Once the runner is passed second, they need to be tagged if returning to the base. So, if the fielder is just standing on the bag with the ball, they're not actually making a play, unless the runner hasn't reached the base.

Not being there, probably a safe call was appropriate.
Dec. 19, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Should there have been a call

I'm trying to picture this is in my mind. If there was actually a play at 2B, a casual safe sign would suffice. Doesn't have to be that close.

If the runner had passed 2B significantly, and continued to 3B, no call would probably be necessary. F1 should have been covering 3B if F5 went far in the hole to his left.

Close calls. Sell them.
Dec. 9, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foul or out

A ball may hit in foul ground, come into fair territory without being touched in foul ground is a fair ball. EXCEPTION: A ball that hits first in foul territory past first or third base is a foul ball.
Dec. 9, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ball or strike

Randall,

Used to they used the plate and a mud flap as part the of the strike mat. Their width was 17". The new strike mats even with mud flap going up the side of the plate are 19". Technically, you are getting the corners.
Dec. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foul or out

FYI ~ Diagrams of field dimensions don't show foul lines indicating as such. However, if the mat gets moved you can use the plate underneath the mat.

Anyway, the batter in the OP is out both times.


Dec. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: the catch rule??

Yes, having control of the ball is key and it will be in the umpire's judgment as to if he has control or not. The rule below specifically mentions the ball may be touching the ground in his glove. If the ball can touch a glove and the ground and it is okay, then the hand and ground are okay as well. Again, the key is that the fielder has control of the ball and is not just simply trapping the ball against the ground.

This explains it better than softball rulebooks

NFHS Rule 2-9-1

2-9-1 A catch is the act of a fielder in getting secure possession in his hand or glove of a live ball in flight and firmly holding it, provided he does not use his cap, protector, mask, pocket, or another part of his uniform to trap the ball. The catch of a fly ball by a fielder is not completed until the continuing action of the catch is completed. A fielder who catches a ball and then runs into a wall or another player and drops the ball has not made a catch. A fielder, at full speed, who catches a ball and whose initial momentum carries him several more yards after which the ball drops from his glove has not made a catch. When the fielder, by his action of stopping, removing the ball from his glove, etc., signifies the initial action is completed and then drops the ball, will be judged to have made the catch. The same definition of a catch would apply when making a double play. It is considered a catch if a fielder catches a fair or foul ball and then steps or falls into a bench, dugout, stand, bleacher or over any boundary or barrier, such as a fence, rope, chalk line, or a pregame determined imaginary boundary line from the field of play. Falling into does not include merely running against such an object. (See 2-24-4 for fielder juggling ball and 8-4-1c for an intentionally dropped ball; 2-16-2 and 5-1-1d for ball striking catcher before touching his glove.) It is not a catch when a fielder touches a batted ball in flight which then contacts a member of the offensive team or an umpire and is then caught by a defensive player.

NOTE: When a batted ball or a pitch is involved, the above definition of a catch applies. For any other thrown ball, the term is used loosely to also apply to a pick-up or to the trapping of a low throw that has touched the ground. A fielder may have the ball in his grasp even though it is touching the ground while in his glove.
Dec. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foul or out

FYI ~ Home plate is in fair territory. However, some mats don't have what is considered a regulation plate drawn on them. Is the whole mat considered home plate for a batted ball? I have played some games where the whole mat is considered the plate for making a play on a throw home as the mat is only one color.
Nov. 27, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Safe r out

I see someone has woken up from their turkey coma.

Please reference SSUSA rule 1.64 on page 11 as I stated earlier. I don't know which is worse, time out (not playing football) or dead ball (NOTE: see earlier post). Per the usual, you're merely picking nits by twisting my words.


Nov. 27, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Safe r out

I understand all that. I am just wondering if there was intent on the catcher's part in the OP to distract the batter/runner. He could have been alerting the umpire that the batter made illegal contact by having a foot completely on the ground out of the box.

I looked in all the obvious places where "verbal" obstruction might be addressed. Personally, I wouldn't allow such shenanigans go on in my games even judging no intent on the catcher's part without a "verbal" warning and ejection for the next offense.

I believe it is 1.64 that addresses using Time as the proper verbiage for stopping playing action.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
Nov. 26, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat grip

I put more pop into my swing by leaving the bat head behind my hands, and snapping my wrists a split second before contact.

Hanging two fingers off the top of the bat can take a lot of practice to get used to, but will give you a longer swing to increase bat speed.

I assume you're talking about putting two fingers right over the bat knob, and then placing two fingers over your bottom fingers?
Nov. 26, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Safe r out

There is nothing in the SSUSA rulebook that supports verbal obstruction.

Umpires should never yell dead ball as obstruction is a delayed dead ball. Umpire should point to where the obstruction occurred and give the obstruction signal

At the end of playing action, umpire shall declare time with both hands raised above their heads, and place runner(s) appropriately. (Not sure if some umpires know how to do that.)

Additionally, all dead balls should be taken out beyond the outfield fence, and be given a proper burial.
Oct. 31, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Finger Protection

I don't know what finger you broke, nor the severity. But,you can tape your broken finger to the one next to it. I suggest a finger splint because if you hit that thing it is going to hurt.
Sept. 8, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Happened to us

Omar, two things to remember. 1) Runners may legally advance when the ball is first touched in flight. 2) Never leave the playing field until the umpire signals catch/no catch.
Sept. 8, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: "Illegal" player?

Omar, two things to remember. 1) Runners may advance legally when the ball is touched. 2) Don't leave the playing field until the umpire calls catch or no catch.
Sept. 8, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: "Illegal" player?

Thanks Dave. I believe I had an older version of the rules saved to a file on my phone. Downloaded the newest version now.
Sept. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: "Illegal" player?

SSUSA should consider changing the rule that a substitute who is in the game legally be only an unannounced substitute, not an ejection. That's too stiff of a penalty for players who have spent a lot of money to travel and play a few games.
Sept. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitchers stance and ball presentation

Berger, consider the pitching box as the rubber, and you'll be fine

joebodyman, as in baseball when pitching from the set position, you just need a short pause before going home.
Sept. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Happened to us

I don't have to be there to see it. [insert eyeroll] Simple call. As explained in the OP, no catch should be ruled as there was no voluntary release of the ball. Ball was touched over fair ground, so the ball remains live. Ground, fence, player, etc. have nothing to do as for what constitutes as a catch. A fielder can run 20 yards with the ball in his glove, but the out shouldn't be called until they actually have gone into the glove and taken the ball out.

MLB recently went with their interpretation that the fielder should have control of the ball when taking the ball out of the glove. Watching the Cubs/Cardinals game today, and the Cardinals CF didn't take the ball cleanly out of his glove. Watching it in real time, I actually thought he dropped the ball.

Get a pen and piece of paper bj, and write this down.

grayhitter59, two runners occupying the base at the same time, all that is required is to tag the trailing runner.

Happy now, chico?

Enjoy the fruits of the rest of your Labor Day.


Sept. 1, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: Looking to play or hit Bp

Check and see what park they are at. They play at different ones on the different nights.
Aug. 31, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: Looking to play or hit Bp

Checkout DASSA on Quick Scores. They pkay on Tuesday and Thursday.
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