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Aug. 31, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Wild Throw

SCUBA,

First scenario: you place the runners from their last legally obtained base on the TOT (time of throw) by an outfielder.

Second scenario: you place the runners from their last legally obtained base from the TOP (time of pitch) on the first throw by an infielder.

Runners must touch all bases in their order. Subject to so, they can be called out by proper appeal.


Aug. 31, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rule 8.1, touching bases in order

Bill,

The best way to make an appeal is wait until the umpire has called time and verbally appeal to the umpire that runner missed 2nd base on the way back to 1b.

Make sure you do it before a pitch to the next batter. If you don't, you lose your right to a proper appeal.

Couldn't tell you the right terminology, but I know appeal is the first definition in Rule 1 section 1.1.

You can do a live ball appeal, but the dead ball is so much simpler.
Aug. 29, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rule 8.1, touching bases in order

Upon proper appeal.
Aug. 19, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Bats
Discussion: NEW ONYX SOFTBALL BATS

Well, it would be nice if the OP mentioned where to purchase such bat. FYI ~ I'm not a mind reader.
Aug. 13, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner on 2nd helping batter with inside/outside pitches.

jgoff,

I have a radar gun if you want to use it
July 21, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Kicking the ball to a teammate legal?

A little deviation of the play. Pitcher catches a hard hit liner that lodges in their webbing and can't get it out. Can the pitcher throw the glove to the base with the ball still lodged in the webbing to record an out.
July 21, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Finding the rules

I for one know it is hard to get the rules section to open on you phones. If you're fortunate enough to get it to work. Load it on a file to your phone. You have to work with it

STAY SAFE EVERYONE!!!!
July 21, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batter pops up, doesn't run; defense lets ball drop to get a double play. Legal?

Instead of using the words drops the ball, usin guided the ball to ground would be more prudent.

Batter doesn't run, that's on them.
July 21, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Outfielder runs thru centerfield fence gap and catches home run ball; home run or out?

Jgoff5113,

Your situation would be what it be called catch and carry. That means you caught the ball within the playing grounds, but carried the ball into dead ball territory.
All runners advance one base after legally tagging of course. Subject to appeal.

This was actually a play years back in a MiLB years back, and that was the rule the way they enforced it. CF ran right through the wooden fence though.

Maybe one of these days I'll tell the sto of why a I have a light standard named for me
July 18, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Passing a preceding runner

Not an appeal play. Time play. Runner would have had to pass the proceeding runner prior to run scoring to nullify the run.

Runner must have completely passed the proceeding runner to be declared out.
June 14, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Passing a preceding runner

The rally has been cancelled. Take care out there.
June 11, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What would've the call been?

Batter isn't credited with a single, but a fielder's choice and an RBI.
June 9, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SoCal Championships

OZ40,

Is your dentist part of Dewey,Yankum and Howe? They aren't 0.1%.
June 9, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Texas Softball

Captain Kirk,

I would advise to not rush into anything. There have been a lot of misleading numbers, and misinformation being put out on social media.

The numbers are spiking, and the curve is un-flattening in Texas.

Take care.
June 4, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SoCal Championships

DBax,

Same in Texas. They talk about the percentage rate of recovery. They don't talk about the permanent damage done to the respiratory system though
May 3, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: DO RUNNERS RETURN

As explained to me by Dear Moderator, Rule 8.3 is worded so that a B/R cannot enter the dugout, thus removing the force and not allowing a team a chance at a DP. Therefore runners must return to their TOP base.

You call outs in the order they're made. If you get the out at 2nd before, then the B/R is out, and no runs score with 1 out. Since they already have a rule pertaining to abandonment. It's ridiculous to me because with 1 out and a R3, batter hits a deep ball to the outfield which isn't caught, the batter, doesn't have to touch 1B as the for the run to legally score. If the batter goes directly to the dugout, R3 returns to their base with two out.


May 3, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: You make the call

Stick,

Softball rulebooks are mostly vague with very little to no interpretation. I took this from the MLB set of rules.

2019 MLB Rule 5.08 Comment:
APPROVED RULING: No run shall score during a play in which the third out is made by the batter-runner before he touches first base. Example: One out, Jones on second, Smith on first. The batter, Brown, hits safely. Jones scores. Smith is out on the throw to the plate. Two outs. But Brown missed first base. The ball is thrown to first, an appeal is made, and Brown is out. Three outs. Since Jones crossed the plate during a play in which the third out was made by the batter-runner before he touched first base, Jones’ run does not count.

Doubtful you would be wrong using this. What your OP is the same as 6-4-3 DP with a proper appeal. My first post, I was probably thinking the runner missed 2B.

Same scenario with two outs, the defense can appeal for what is called an advantageous 4th out thus disallowing the run to score.
May 2, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: You make the call

I'm going to change my first answer. No run may score if the B/R makes the last out of an inning before reaching 1B. DUH!!!!
May 1, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: You make the call

Two outs. Run doesn't score.

First scenario there was no force with one out.

Second scenario, B/R must legally obtain 1B with 2 outs. It is called an advantageous 4th out.
May 1, 2020
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: You make the call

Timing play. Run scores.
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