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Discussion: Here's my question on RATINGS

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Feb. 11, 2013
Big Mike
84 posts
Here's my question on RATINGS
As a member of a team that's right on the edge of being moved up, here's my question. If we were to be moved up, most players want to disband and go to other teams. As a fairly good player, I am good with moving up, but finding a team to play for isn't as easy here in the northwest as it is elsewhere. And there isn't a lot of teams of that caliber up here. Going from AAA to Major or plus is hard here. The teams are pretty close knit, winning is nice but I'm more about the friendship and just the joy of the game. I won't play the cut throat kind of ball, nor do I want to play for a team that's that way. Maybe i'm just rambling here but I'm kind of at a loss.
Feb. 11, 2013
2513 posts
Any players on a roster at the time a team is raised in rating will carry the new rating to their new teams as a part of their personal rating history. NOTE: This also includes players who were on the changed team's roster(s) during tournament play that resulted in the rating increase. Those players were responsible for the team's performance and related rating increase, and they carry the new rating as well.

If they seek to disperse to other teams, those new teams will have to consider the adjusted new ratings in determining whether or not the new players can be absorbed into the new team roster without triggering a rating increase for the destination team(s). Lower rated teams are only allowed a maximum of three out-of-rating players from a higher rating level. Please see SSUSA Rulebook 14.1(1) B.3., C.3. and D.3. for clarification.

Feb. 12, 2013
Men's 55
82 posts
SSUSA Staff, you NOTED:
This also includes players who were on the changed team's roster(s) during tournament play that resulted in the rating increase. Those players were responsible for the team's performance and related rating increase, and they carry the new rating as well.

Some AAA teams were moved up even though they didn't win any national tournaments, so does the application of the rule stated above apply to all players on the roster during that season?

You're probably aware that not every player on a AAA team that got bumped to major is a major player. He may have had a limited role and limited playing time mostly during seeding rounds or to give the starters some rest.

How does a non-impact player get his personal rating changed when he leaves a team that got bumped to major?
Feb. 12, 2013
2513 posts
The response above was to a general theory question. If you have an inquiry about a specific team and/or players, please contact the Sacramento office and ask for George to discuss those concerns.

The SSUSA does not have an Impact Player List. That is a roster administration policy from another senior association. Thanks.
Feb. 12, 2013
Men's 50
55 posts
ChiPrimeMarty: I feel your pain and join the club.
Feb. 12, 2013
49 posts
What happens if the above scenario occurs and the team(s) disbans after being moved up. A few players decide not to play for a couple of years and then come out of hiding to play for a team with a lower rating than they had after their team was moved up a level?
Feb. 12, 2013
2513 posts
Players who go on "inactive" status after their team is re-rated upward simply delay the start of their own 2-year player rating experience history. When they resume playing, their own 2-year time line commences.
Feb. 13, 2013
96 posts
SSUSA Staff,
I feel the two year time line is fair; just like I feel once a team is moved up, they should have to stay up two years before having the opportunity to move down. However, I don't feel a team that has been moved up and doesn't play in your World should have the opportunity to be able to move down in one year. You should not be able to move a team down one year after moving them up, yet have a two year time line for players. That is not consistent. You might as well only have a one year time line.
Feb. 13, 2013
661 posts
I thought it was three yrs if you play 55major plus & sit out two yrs can you go to 60 major when you come back????????
Feb. 13, 2013
Men's 50
505 posts
Neck a player is allowed to drop one level.So if you were rated 55M+ you could only play 55 major or 60M+.Even if he sat out for three years he could only drop one rating level lower.
55+ has an 8 rating index. 55 M and 60M+ both have a 7 rating. You could actually drop to 55m or 60M+(without sitting out).
Feb. 13, 2013
1608 posts
Titanhd is correct. I will add that a team who is, for example, a 55 major team is only allowed to have 3 players who are major plus players.
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