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Aug. 19, 2013
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NCSSA Championships kudos
Simply put, outstanding!

Ron and his organization, and John and his tournament crew, deserve a loud round of applause for a job well done this past weekend. The top group was comprised of the top eight teams on the West Coast and i know that all of those teams appreciated John making this an open bracket where the best could play the best - congrats to NWL for a well-earned victory. The competition was intense, and yet the camaraderie between the teams was well evidenced. We loved playing at night, although we do understand it may not work for the older guys.

And lo and behold, all teams were guaranteed five games, the tourney was completed in two days, the grounds crew keep the dugouts well stocked with water, teams were not asked to retrieve balls yet play never stopped while we waited for new balls, and we got to play at a Big League Dreams complex, all for the cost of $300!!

Thanks again.
Aug. 19, 2013
51 posts
I agree John ran an excellent Tourn. an allowed the Best Teams on the West Coast compete against each other. We all share a respect for each other I no our MTC 55 team enjoyed the great completion. Lets hope these team fair well at the Worlds if I was a betting man I bet they would.
Aug. 19, 2013
Tim Millette
615 posts
I'd think any team wanting to come west for a tourney should consider the NCSSA Hall of Fame event.
If they called it a World and let you buy rings it would be the best dollar value in senior softball.
$300... Five game minimum, no I'd cards to buy, no balls to does that saying go........

Aug. 19, 2013
Men's 60
496 posts
Interesting Tim. Now that you have had 3 of our best So Cal teams travel up there. I just check a map and wouldn't you know it your freeways up there actually have southbound lanes. I suggest the 101 for the scenic view and the 5 for shortest time frame. Im sure our guys down here would like a rematch. 5 games, double eliminations, no ID cards and no softballs to buy. Plus we give $500 cash to each division winners. Maybe that is what asking for anything more will get you :O) I could even help with reservations!
Aug. 20, 2013
Tim Millette
615 posts
Sounds interesting but.... I only think it was two SoCal teams... Not like that really matters.

LA would be a good travel event...... Do you guys use BLD turf parks?

What's the entry fee?

Hotel rooms were dirt cheap? $49-$70...including a breakfast.

Also...three metro airports to chose from for those that fly in Sac, SFO, San Jose.

SoCal can probably do a good job.... Like I have said many times NorCal we have many playing options so getting us out of town is a little difficult.

I have heard stories about other areas where senior ball is struggling. But NorCal is not one of them.
Aug. 20, 2013
Men's 60
496 posts
Sorry Rated Athletics went to Sacramento. You know Tim all venues and areas have their pluses and minuses. Our fields down here are the best including BLD in the state. All except San Clemente are new within 8 years old. Hemet is just 4 years old and has sodded fields. Temecula is in the southern California Wine Country and one of the most picturesque parks in the country. We are not anywhere near L.A. We are closer to San Diego, Riverside and Palm Springs than L.A.

The bottom line here is you pitch teams to come to Manteca and don't reciprocate. You had two 50 Major teams from So Cal last weekend. That's two more than have EVER come to one of our events. Even when its going to poor up there and sunny down here no team ever comes down here. We have eight 50M and 50M+ and five 55M M+ teams coming to the So Cal Championship but no team from further north than Bakersfield. So as my grand dad used to say "whats good for the Goose should be good for the Gander" Keep that in mind on those rainy days when you could be plying some really competitive softball just around an hour, by plane, away.
Aug. 20, 2013
Men's 50
68 posts
This is one of the top NorCal tournaments. John does a good job as always. I may be wrong but the open division was promoted by local teams and did a lot of ground work to make it happen, more of an invitational. May if someone in SoCal made the effort to put something together it would happen.
Aug. 20, 2013
Tim Millette
615 posts
Sorry Marv.... I don't understand the rain stuff....I work outside and usually from the middle of March to December we get a gotal of at most three days of rain.

As for our NoCal/SoCal thing... We have the MTC 55 and 50 Plus teams, EBO and Barons/Warriors plus to start the year we had GSC before they became a travel only team.

Add to that many good forty teams that allow us an extra fielder when we play and there are at least 12 competitive teams in NorCal...even more when you use the NCSSA 1 up homerun rule (which reduces the power advantage).

As I see it...Vegas or PHX is a SoCal event... It's kinda like NorCal teams going to Reno.'s looking like the Plus teams and some of the major teams are going to get together and look at scheduling for next season. If we do get together as a group maybe we can give you the info/tourneys we are looking for and make us an offer.
Aug. 21, 2013
Men's 50
891 posts
I would also like to thank John and the NCSSA crew for letting us play in the HOF tournament. This was our first ever NorCal event as we are not a California team but they made an exception and let us participate.

Great organization and a great group of 8 teams! We played 6 games against 6 different opponents, can't remember when that has happened. And in 2 days! The Worlds in Vegas ... okay 3 days, but everything else should be 2 days.

The 1-up HR is a great rule (so simple), it keeps the games close and like Tim said it reduces the power advantage! With 5 runs per inning and the 1-up HR rule, the top Major teams could EASILY be combined with Major+.

As far as the discussion about getting the top teams to travel and play against each other in some events next year, I don't think we are that far from that right now with Vegas, Reno and Manteca which are already the best attended events. Now we need another ... how about one in the NORTHWEST! The Northwest Championship in Portland could be one of those tournaments. Good fields (could be great fields if they moved it to the turf field in Clackamas, just outside of Portland) and yes, good weather at the end of June.
Aug. 22, 2013
11 posts
John and the Ncssa ran a great tournament.

We would like to see next year tournament be double elimination instead of single elimination. One less seeding game and start double elimination.

There's no different in playing 4 game or 5 games in a tournament, it all about the competition.

If a team lose 2 straight after seeding then they deserve to go home. That softball.

Our age group comes from the time when you go 0-2 and you are on your way home.

We had 8 outstanding team in the 50 Major+ at one tournament and this could have been an outstanding Double elimination.

Your tournament would be the only Major+ with more than 3 teams with a double elimination format.

Rated Athletic enjoyed going North to play.

Think about it
Aug. 23, 2013
96 posts
John Reedy,
You did a great job hosting the tournament.

I understand you would like to play a double elimination tournament. However, the teams that traveled to this tournament went to play good competition...but also other teams. John's format guaranteed every team would play a min. of four different teams. The champion, Legends, played six different teams. We played five different teams. I will add this bit of information. Send your input to John Reedy. If enough teams would like to play a double elimination tournament, he will make it happen. He is a player friendly TD.

I will also add Dave does the same.
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