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Discussion: playing in different age groups

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Oct. 11, 2013
rabbit
Men's 65
294 posts
playing in different age groups
I have read and reread the rules on players, but the way i understand it, a 65 AAA player can not play 60 major? in the same organization,and is it in all organizations that way? Am I reading this right? thanks for any answers.
Oct. 12, 2013
tanker39
Men's 50
6 posts
You can play in two different age divisions and one up or one down rating. Example you are a 3A player so you can play for a team in a 60 Major or 60 2A. The only exception is if you are a Major+ you can only play for a Major or Major+ team.
Oct. 12, 2013
rabbit
Men's 65
294 posts
Thanks Tanker 39,
Oct. 12, 2013
SSUSA Staff
1005 posts
rabbit ... Please call the Sacramento Office at (916) 326.5303 and speak with either George or Tiffany ... The advice you were given above is incomplete and very likely incorrect ... You are a 65-AAA player with a rating index of "4" ... The team you are contemplating joining is 60-Major, with a rating index of "6" ... You may certainly play for that 60-Major, but doing so would prohibit you from playing 65-AAA, since you are only allowed to move one rating index downward ... Should you decide to play 60-Major, and you may certainly do so, your subsequent options in the 65's would be at Major or above ... Please check first!
Oct. 12, 2013
BruceAZ
Men's 60
84 posts
Staff, is the rating index for the divisions on this website? If they're not, could you please list the rating index for each division and age group?

Thanks
Oct. 12, 2013
SSUSA Staff
1005 posts
R/I Age-Rating
10 40-M+
9 40-M, 50-M+
8 40-AAA, 50-M, 55-M+
7 50-AAA, 55-M, 60-M+
6 50-AA, 55-AAA, 60-M, 65-M+
5 55-AA, 60-AAA, 65-M, 70-M+
4 60-AA, 65-AAA, 70-M
3 65-AA, 70-AAA, 75-M
2 70-AA, 75-AAA, 80-M
1 80-AAA

Oct. 12, 2013
crusher
Men's 70
380 posts
Sad, very Sad.

By the time I got in Senior Softball I started out as a 7 and now am a 3.

And it looks like it is only a downhill ride from here.

Well may be I will be a 1 someday. LOL

C
Oct. 12, 2013
BruceAZ
Men's 60
84 posts
Crusher, I was striving to be a 2 someday, playing until I was 75, but now it's a 1.
Oct. 13, 2013
tanker39
Men's 50
6 posts
4.2(5) PLAY IN ONLY ONE AGE RATING DIVISION
A player may not play in more than one rating division in the same age group in World Masters Championships competition (See 4.2(6) for playing in two age divisions). A non-qualified player may attempt to qualify with a team in one division after failing to qualify with a team in the other. But once qualified for either division, he must play in that divisional World Masters Championships
unless the team with which he qualifies disbands under 4.2(4). Penalty for attempting to play in two rating divisions in same age group: see 16.1(5).

4.2(6) PLAYING IN TWO AGE DIVISIONS
A player may play in two age divisions under the following conditions:
A. Player is playing in two separate age divisions. EXAMPLE: One team is in the 55+ division and the other is in the 60+ division; AND
B. A player can only play on a team in the same skill level, or one skill level higher or lower. EXAMPLE: A player on a 55-Major division team cannot play on a 50-AA division team.

4.2(7) MAJOR-PLUS PLAYER RESTRICTION
Major-Plus players may only play on Major-Plus or Major teams. Players who
have no Major or Major-Plus team in their region OR players who are
determined not to be Major-Plus caliber by SSUSA may request an exemption
in writing.
Oct. 13, 2013
tanker39
Men's 50
6 posts
So if I am reading this based under 4.2(6), I'm 55+ Division and my skill level is AAA. I can play on either a 50 AA,50 AAA, 50 Major, or 60 AA,60 AAA, or 60 Major. Two different age groups, same skill level being AAA, lower skill level (AA), or one higher skill level (Major). Does not mention rating.
Oct. 13, 2013
rabbit
Men's 65
294 posts
Thanks, Staff, I am not changing, just wanting to double check for a new player thinking about it, I will stay at 65 AAA and will pass your number on too him.
Oct. 14, 2013
Jawood
Men's 50
784 posts
I'll point this out again ... the rating index is a pretty accurate EXCEPT it's based on 5 year increments, therefore a 40 AAA team should be a 9 instead of a 8, a 40 Major team should be a 10 instead of a 9 and a 40 Major+ team should be an 11 instead of a 10.

No way should a 50 Major+ team be equal to a 40 Major team. A 50 Major+ team is equal to a 40 AAA team. If there was a 45 year old age group that would be different, but we're talking 10 years here, and because of that the difference should be 2 points not 1.
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