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Discussion: Vegas parks\fields, applies to other events as well. LIGHTS

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Oct. 8, 2014
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Vegas parksfields, applies to other events as well. LIGHTS
Were the field lights used at night or not?
If not, why not?
I'd think a great amount of the players use them in the leagues they play in, I know we use them here.
So that shouldn't be a factor.
If they do not use them perhaps the games would\could be completed if they used them. Barring incidents like weather.
Oct. 8, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3205 posts
We watch friends play at Sunset Park and they used the lights there. I took about 45 minutes for them to be functional.
Oct. 9, 2014
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Thanks Bruce.
Over a 100 views and not one post till yours.. And players wonder why polls don't get more replies.
Sounds like it's a antiquated system still being used. The lights should all be up in about 5 minutes or less. But Vegas has areas that haver revolving power cutbacks too, so that could be one part of the problem.
I just wonder why more games weren't played at night to either make up time lost due to weather or as regular bracketing.
Oct. 9, 2014
SSUSA Staff
3148 posts
taits ... Games were played at night where permitted, with the primary obstacle being the imposition of restrictions for local league play ... Restrictions were:

SUNSET - League seven days a week on four of six fields beginning at 6:15 PM
ARROYO GRANDE / RUSSELL ROAD / DOS ESCUELAS - League Monday through Fridays beginning at 6:00 PM
BIG LEAGUE DREAMS - League Sunday through Friday on all six fields beginning at 6:00 PM (BLD did defer leagues on 10/03/14)

A further complicating factor in Session #3 was another tournament promoter having sole access to DESERT BREEZE, DESERT BLOOM and RUSSELL ROAD all three days, making them unavailable to us ...

We did play into the night at SHADOW ROCK, HOLLYWOOD, LORENZI and DOC ROMEO when required and we attempted to NOT play after dark for the 70's, 75's, 80's and 85's as a safety issue ...

Take a peek at the Master Planning Grids and look for last game times by day ... Some of the venues with late play actually ended much later than scheduled ...

Oct. 9, 2014
Lecak
Men's 60
1026 posts
Traits revolving power outages? We're like two feet from the hoover dam we have probably the most stable power situation in the country. I've lived in Vegas for 12 years and don't remember ever losing power.
Oct. 9, 2014
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Thank you staff. Understand the issue w\ ages mentioned but would bet the play that way anyway in league. Though for any age, it is usually better to play in the daylight time. Just depends on suns position relative to players and batter.
With all the restrictions\caveats your stuck with (& agreed to) why stay there? Seems as though NSA has you by the ...err gonads.
Time frame for event is just before Huntsman, perhaps you could negotiate a 'better' deal St George. Ok, I know you have a 'contract' you always use that, but it does eventually end as did the last one and ones before it.
Then again, St G may not want their excellent fields used for 5 weeks in a row either.
Hope you all made it back to Sac safely.
Oct. 9, 2014
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Watch out for the hole in the damn... :>)
Hoover only supplies about 23% of the STATES power. More goes to CA 28%. Nv has another energy plant with output 5x that of Hoover.
Where the power goes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Dam


I got that from a guy who lives in Vegas. don't know where don't really care but have known him for about 15 years.
Could be, not black out areas as normally done in grids, but selective area type useage. I doubt they would do the casinos.
Oct. 9, 2014
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Lecak, near bottom of page on link.
Oct. 9, 2014
hoovedog
Men's 50
73 posts
Let's take it easy on the "Hoover Dam"..anyone know who won the 60AAA??
Oct. 9, 2014
SSUSA Staff
3148 posts
Wisconsin Masters defeated Hannington's 20-19 in the "If" game after Hannington's had forced that game by winning Championship Game #1 (23-18)...
Oct. 9, 2014
hoovedog
Men's 50
73 posts
Thanks!
Oct. 9, 2014
LeeLee50
140 posts
Were all of the available complexes used, that fit the requirements? Just asking, sorry if I am going on the subject of lights.
Oct. 9, 2014
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Lecak,

http://www.reviewjournal.com/life/public-safety/brownouts-have-firefighters-seeing-red-north-las-vegas

Go down to 'Mayor seeks union concessions', there is 1 line that mentioned it. This was in 2012-2013. So it isn't new to Vegas.
Oct. 9, 2014
DaveDowell
Men's 65
3562 posts
LeeLee50 ... ALL of the available complexes meeting tournament specifications as to fence distances that were made available to us were used, with one exception ... The Cheyenne Complex in N. Las Vegas could have been used but wasn't ... N. Las Vegas has almost completed a major renovation of the fields there, but the circumstances are a lot like last year at Sunset Park ... We chose not to go there this year until the facility renovation is complete ... Excluding last-game-of-the-day time slots where we could maybe have gone later into the night, we fit the 1,713 game schedule into the 1,720 game slot inventory ...
Oct. 9, 2014
Lecak
Men's 60
1026 posts
Taits your a fountain of misinformation do you even read what you post.
Oct. 9, 2014
LeeLee50
140 posts
Thank you Dave, but wouldn't it be better to schedule all these games with a little larger margin of error. As we all know games always fall behind and there is always some type of time delay. I know it is wasn't your fault for the weather but in the past 2 years are division hasn't even had the 5 game guarantee commitment completed. Last year it was a the number of teams or scheduling issue, this year it was a weather issue and then on top of the that are games were shorten to 4 and 5 innings. Although we never played in a 4 inning game but we did play in 5's. A 3 day tournament in LV to play 4 games. I am just giving you some of my observations, I would like to be part of the solution to make the tournament even better.


thank you
Oct. 9, 2014
4040club
Men's 75
14 posts
Played under the lights at Sunset Park. 70AA game started at 5:00 with sun in batters eyes, 3rd inning (?) lights came on, not good for old guys with glasses. Field lights not bad but lights from other fields were lower. We lost in last inning so maybe this is sour grapes but this was the only game in our division played under the lights. Seems like with only 4 teams in the division this could have been avoided. Also, with all the emphasis on safety, why when we get to the biggest and most expensive tourney of the year we are playing without the safety base at first ( at Sunset Park) and the umpires instructions concerning running to first vary game to game? Otherwise, great job with the tourney .... Of course, we won so.....
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