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Discussion: Fair of foul, I need help

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April 3, 2015
cuda65
69 posts
Fair of foul, I need help
In adult ASA play, not senior but it may apply. Batter hits a ground ball that hits in foul territory first then hits a pebble and goes into fair territory and passes the bag in fair territory. Is this a fair or foul ball? Stumped in deep south Texas.
April 3, 2015
DMac
Men's 60
207 posts
Fair
April 3, 2015
Devil Dog
1 posts
Cuda65...in the scenario that you have provided...the correct ruling would be a fair ball. As long as the ball was deflected/redirected back into fair territory by anything that is natural to the ground (i.e. rock, pebble. tree limb) and not foreign (i.e. sprinkler head, concrete, fencing, equipment), and provided the redirected ball, passes back into fair territory PRIOR to the front edge of the base (either 1st or 3rd), then the correct ruling that would be a fair ball. This would be a "judgement call" and would not be protestable based on the umpire(s) ruling. Hope this helps! Happy Good Friday to all!
April 3, 2015
SSUSA Staff
3485 posts
We fully concur with DevilDog's (excellent) analysis ...
April 3, 2015
cuda65
69 posts
Thanks Devil Dog. My question then is why would it be an umpires judgment call when in fact, it hit foul and went by the base in fair territory. Where is his judgment involved if it clearly went by the base. I understand your explanation, if it were really close on passing inside or outside the bag. Thanks again. This forum is the best because you have so many experienced individuals out there. Happy Easter to all.
April 3, 2015
Garocket
Men's 55
259 posts
every call is either a judgment call or a rule interputation.
once it went by the bag in fair area it was his opninion that it was a fair ball and that is the judgment in the call.
April 3, 2015
cuda65
69 posts
Garocket,,, Thank, That answered the questions.
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