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Dec. 11, 2006
Men's 50
3114 posts
What's up, Doc?
Happy Holidays to one and all.
And I apologize beforehand
if I missed the final publication
of the outcome of the illegal/altered bats
situations, 2, in Seattle this year.
Fran, Dave what's up?
How did those 2 situations resolve?
Dec. 12, 2006
238 posts
Happy Holidays to you too Einstein, and to all. Hoping the new year brings everyone health and happiness.
Dec. 22, 2006
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hi Fran and Dave,
Happy holidays.

Any word yet on the resolution
of either illegal/altered bat episode
in Seattle this year?
How long does it take to get
all the info involved?
Are there some other reasons
why you don't want to publish
the results?
Dec. 23, 2006
Men's 50
3114 posts
I'd be willing to bet that
if there is ever a case
from this point on
involving illegal/altered bats
in any Association Event
especially SSUSA ones,
the precedents established
or not established by SSUSA reaction
to the 2 related events in Seattle this year
would be rather significant to any of the parties
Perhaps that is why nothing has been said yet, officially?
And silence esablishes legal precedents of its own
does it not?

What's up Fran and Dave?
What's going on.
We need to know.
Dec. 24, 2006
Men's 50
128 posts
Nobody else will tell it like it is ,so I will, It's pretty evident that with the lack of response to this thread ,everyone is tired of your writing ,and reading about it .Why don't you just pick up the phone and call whoever you are trying to get a response from.That was not a question.
Dec. 24, 2006
Men's 50
3114 posts
Where to begin?
Merry Christmas one and all.

Another anonymous jerk thinks he's got something
to say to anyone of importance.

I've just gotten inside word
that a veritable ton of stuff is coming down the pipe
from SSUSA regarding the Seattle and similar
episodes this year.
Maybe Christmass isn't the best time
to send pink slips to anyone.

I just wanted to let everyone know
we're still waiting for information
regarding the resolution of some matters
that are very important to ALL of us,
even anonymous jerks, like James Hoffa.

Dec. 24, 2006
10 posts
enistein - I thought I rmemebred seeing something on this a while back, and I found a couple of posts from Dave at SSUSA. Seems to me that one of the issues is closed, and the other isn't. Here's what he said then. Maybe the second one has some news. I don't know
Terry Hennessy has asked me to respond to this inquiry with respect to the prohibited bat incident at Celebration Park, where I was the Field Director during the 2006 World Championships. Here are the facts. While watching part of a game, I observed a particular bat being kept just outside the dugout perimeter and being replaced in a bat bag after each use. I became 'curious' about the bat after it had been used and returned to the bat bag, rather than hung on the dugout bat rack, by three (unidentified) players during the course of two half-inning at-bats. The Umpire in Charge and I then asked for, and were given without argument, the bat for inspection. I removed it from the game and sent it to the Miken representative (at another park) for his inspection and opinion. The bat was determined to be an original, and prohibited, grey Miken Ultra re-painted to appear as an allowable Ultra II. The manager of the team met with Terry prior to their next game, a meeting that I did not attend. However, the result of the meeting was that the bat was retained by SSUSA, its owner (but not the other two players) was identified, was declared ineligible for the remainder of the World Championships tournament and began to serve his automatic one year suspension, effective immediately. To date, there has been no appeal of the suspension. The team, it's manager and the player involved handled the inquiry and related results courteously and respectfully at all times and this particular incident is considered a closed matter. DAVE (10/31/06)
It is my understanding that the second bat incident is still an open inquiry and that the results of that one will be disclosed, either here and/or in the Senior Softball News, when the matter is resolved. DAVE (10/31/06)

Dec. 24, 2006
Men's 50
3114 posts
Thanks, SB, for the consideration
and the research.
Yes, one more incident from Seattle
needs to be ejudicated and
a little bird told me there will be similar
decisions announced along with it
involving other players.
Happy Holidays to you
and thanks, again.
Dec. 24, 2006
Men's 55
290 posts
Merry Christmas to Joe (Einstein) and all the board brothers. Its great that there is scrutiny done and removing illegal bats, but just want to caution guys who start watching for anyone putting a bat back into a bag after each plate appearance and calling out illegal. I personally my own Ultra 2s and know others who own their own bats ...and do not use the team . While I welcome anyone to inspect my bats, just because a guy prefers to own his own equipment and puts it back so no one else will break it...should not throw up a witch hunt or red flag. Whether a guy is superstitious, likes a handle taped a certain way, whatever,..there are reasons individuals prefer to use their own bats and not share. I hate the thought of guys going to tournaments and having hard feelings by those who cry cheat, every time a guy has a nice hit. I do aknowledge its a tough call and as soon as the bat manufacturers make tamper proof and distinct looking bats, it will be a problem . I applaud Miken for coming out with the new ultra with the distinct knob and hope the others will see the problem and address it with tamper proof caps and chips imbedded inthe plastic. Happy Holidays to all.
Ken Van Bogaert
Roberts 50 major
Dec. 25, 2006
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Bogie.
A very large Christmas greeting to you and yours.
Bruce walker said one time to me
that whenever you start hitting bombs
guys think you're swinging a loaded bat.
It just goes with the territory and
he was right.

Anyone with your size and expertise
in the art of hitting could hit the ball a mile
with a totempole.
You're a monster.
It's not you we're worried about Bog.
Or your son.
How's he hitting them these days?
I remember seeing him at 14 in one of your videos
hitting balls out at night
out of sight.
The best to you Bogie and yours this holiday season.
Dec. 31, 2006
57 posts
Einstein (Joe), Hope you had a Merry Christmas. I just read that ASA won a major law suit against several bat doctors and their companies. I believe this might be a start in cracking down on illegal bats. Have a great New Year and I'll be seeing you at some tournaments this coming year.
God Bless.
Steve Shannon
Dec. 31, 2006
Men's 50
3114 posts
Thanks, Steve and the best to you and yours
in the new year.
That's good news to help us
get moving in the right direction.
Hope to see you on the field, soon.
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