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Discussion: Senior Bats and Temperature

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Oct. 14, 2015
bkb555
247 posts
Senior Bats and Temperature
we are playing a tournament this weekend and the weather is going to be cool and cold...high of 60 but most games will be in the 50's....my question is, will you use your senior bats?, or if you don't will U-trip bats be any safer?....if there a rule about keeping bats warm so they stay above 65 or 70 degrees....what do most players do in this situation????...there are 6 teams in our bracket and many more in the rest...there are ALOT of bats that will be challenged this weekend
Oct. 14, 2015
JT25
Men's 50
54 posts
I heard it's not so much the bat being cold, it's the ball getting cold that breaks the bat. Temperatures below 60 degrees is a risk thats for sure. Not just senior bats but all bats. IMO.
Oct. 14, 2015
titanhd
Men's 50
570 posts
it's Not the ball JT25. A warm ball will break a cold bat.

Oct. 14, 2015
chico senior
Men's 60
125 posts
Try Pyroflight bat warmers. Saw them for the first time at Rock-n-Reno years ago when temperature was 34 degrees. Then the guy pulled the bladder out of the bag and used it on a bad knee. Costs about $40. They warm your bat in about 2 minutes.
Oct. 14, 2015
Dbax
Men's 60
1864 posts
JT25 is correct. It's the cold ball that will damage the bat whether it is warmed up or not. Bat warmers are a gimmick. ( like Acai juice!)
Oct. 14, 2015
chico senior
Men's 60
125 posts
I disagree with Dbax. I have not have heard anything but positive responses to the use of bat warmers, whether Pyroflight or any others. I've used mine for about 6 years and the bat responses far better in cold weather and has less chance of breaking. Most reviews I have heard and read support this.
Oct. 14, 2015
crusher
Men's 75
524 posts
bkb555, I have watched lots of guys use their Senior Bats in cold weather (when I would not) and not have any problems.

I think it really depends on how hard you swing the bat, if you do base hits your Senior Bat may last 5 or 6 years. If you can hit ball out of park a fair amount of time the bat could go at any time if used 20 or 30 times in cold weather.

Cold and composite are not compatible if you have a high swing speed.

Some guys can hit a composite forever and it will not even be broken in. While some bad boys can break a composite N in 25 swings.

C
Oct. 15, 2015
?
121 posts
If Bat Warmers are as good as some people think....

Then why don't bat manufacturers put on there bats "Do Not Use Below 60 degrees Unless you are using a bat warmer"?

Why don't Miken, Combat, Dudley, DeMarini and all the other manufacturers make and sell bat warmers? Are they that stupid for passing up an opportunity for making more money? Or is it they know bat warmers are just a rip off?
Oct. 15, 2015
jfsully
81 posts
For every one degree of temperature change, the compression of a ball changes by 5lbs. I beieve the balls are intitally tested at 72 degrees.

That means if its 42 degrees outside, a 475 ball is like a 625 compression ball. That is the biggest influence on what breaks a bat. (This is why guys usedto put balls in coolers)

The bat warmers were originaly approved by ASA and later disallowed because in testing they found that bat warmers give a significant increase in performance. I believe the number was was in the range of 2-4%. They were then outlawed by ASA. (SSUSA and other organizations allow bat warmers. Its funny, here in Florida I hav seen guys using bat warmers in 65-90 degree weather, its probably not to keep the cold from breaking the bat.)

If you call the bat manufacturers, they will tell you that the danger in breaking bats in cold weather comes primarily from the change in compression of the ball.



Oct. 15, 2015
Bubble Gum
122 posts

Does anybody have any scientific proof the bat warmers will prevent bat breakage when used in temperatures below 60 degrees?

If so please post a link where we can see it.

Oct. 15, 2015
Gloffer
24 posts
Several years ago when I first tried the senior Reebok Barrage, the bat cracked during its second tournament(<50 swings). One of the factors that Reebok used to deny the defective bat claim was that I had used a bat warmer.

I thought that using a bat warmer would aid in my defective bat claim, but it had the opposite effect. Based on my experience I no longer use any Reebok products.
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