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Discussion: HOME PLATE UMPIRE POSITION

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May 14, 2016
titanhd
Men's 60
638 posts
HOME PLATE UMPIRE POSITION
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Would this or is this considered a proper umpire position ? Would it be distracting to you as the batter ?

http://s587.photobucket.com/user/sloball1/media/umpire%20position.jpg.html?filters[user]=93514591&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0
May 14, 2016
PoollShark
Men's 50
90 posts
As long as he's standing still I'd have no problem with it.
May 14, 2016
k man
Men's 65
326 posts
If he was in my peripheral vision, I would ask him to move.
May 15, 2016
OZ40
549 posts
That is terrible positioning for an umpire. If the batter hits a hard grounder or line shot down the first base line the umpire would either collide with the runner or be late getting to the line to get a straight on view of the ball to determine fair or foul. I've found the best position when umping slo-pitch to be just behind the inside right batters box. On close shots down the lines you can easily take one quick step to the plate and see straight down both lines without waiting for the batter to pass by.
May 15, 2016
B.J.
1105 posts
that is definitely one of the worst I've seen....HP umpire should be in the slot and on the same side of the plate as the batter and distance behind the plate is determined by what the batters depth is in the baters box
May 15, 2016
Sparky.1
Men's 75
284 posts
And once again, no formal training for the Umpires working in today's game unlike in the ol' days. Where was the tourney's UIC? O' I forgot. Don't need one because according to those in charge, these Umpires are the "best".

"the Rattlesnake" (just for Dave) [grins]
May 15, 2016
Katzy63
Men's 60
24 posts
That positioning is what I first worked with back in '84 when there were no height restrictions other than above the batters head. These days I stay in the slot behind the right hand box, and it's not that difficult to see a foul ball. Plus I don't have to run through a batter and his bat to bounce out to make a call. And staying on that same side with a lefty in the box makes the hard pulled foul ball easier to see, not to mention the lack of obstacles between myself and getting into a position to see the play and make a call.

This weekend I toyed with standing in the opposite slots to see the hard hit foul balls for a couple of games... After getting hit by a half dozen or so balls fouled off I went back to my perch in the right handed batters box slot.
May 16, 2016
titanhd
Men's 60
638 posts
Is the common behind the play what is CORRECT or may an UMPIRE choose his or own position .My assumption I guess is, if the UMPIRE is the pic chose the position he did and was allowed to do so without UIC challenge there is no "Correct / Proper position??
May 16, 2016
Dancer
115 posts
I had an umpire be in that same position in league last winter. First, I hit him in the shin with my bat, because that is where I put the bat at after I hit. For 27 years I never had an umpire be located there and I always put the bat in that location so I don't hit the catcher with it (because I played coed and usually a female is catching)Then later in the game, I almost hit him with a foul ball. I really don't think that is a good place for an umpire to be located.
May 16, 2016
Sparky.1
Men's 75
284 posts
What UIC Challenge? Dollars to donuts the TD was running the show including the Umpire staff!

Once again.....If the Senior Associations INCLUDING the SSUSA would use today's technology which they for some reason refuse to do, a lot of this Umpire mess and Umpires "doing their own thing" would be eliminated to a large extent.

This "new technology" is call "YouTube" where Positioning, Field Mechanics, etc. could be made to be part of an Umpire's overall training.

I have attempted to bring this idea to the attention of not only the California Powers To Be but to each Regional SSUSA UIC as well for the past 4-years TO NO AVAIL!

"the Rattlesnake" (just for Dave) [grins]
May 16, 2016
garyheifner
649 posts
RHB-The ump should stand on the 1st base side, away from the back of the mat. He can see down the 3rd base line to judge fair or foul and will be well away from the hitters run to 1st.

Opposite vs LHB. Should the batter follow through and let the bat go, the ump is out of the line of fire.

All the ump has to do is judge if the pitch is legal and simply watch the mat. He could probably stand by the back stop and see that.

I have lost count how many times, when I have been catching, that the ump blocked my path to a foul that could have been caught because he has been standing on my shoulder.

May 17, 2016
B.J.
1105 posts
gary, I disagree with you on your positioning... the umpire should stand on the same side as the batter in the slot and a couple feet behind the batter the deeper toward the backstop the harder it is to get a perspective on pitch heighth and see the front edge of the plate... especially for a ball hit down the line...if you stand on the opposite side of the batter you now have to try to see thru the batter and catcher who are always in the way...also as far as the ump blocking your path to a foul pop up...most catchers stand a few feet back and that gives them easy access to any foul pop ups
May 17, 2016
Sparky.1
Men's 75
284 posts
As a follow-up to my point made earlier in this discussion, there hasn't been any Regional U.I.C. and/or the SSUSA Vice President/Umpires reply to this discussion.
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