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| May 25, 2016 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | flip flop and one up in league play We potentially had a situation last night in our league game. We are trying to shortening our games so the last game ends before 11:00pm. We have moved game times up 30 minutes to 6:30, 7:30 and 8:30 and decreased the game clock to 50 minutes and then open inning. Personally I have suggested make the open inning one pitch rather than the other options. Our home runs rule is 4 and one up and we have just changed our flip flop rule to 5 runs instead of 10. We also have the rule that the home team can't go one up to win in the last inning. Last night we were leading by 9 runs and were visitors. Our team had 4 hrs and the home team had 4. We flip flopped and I heard someone on the home team say they could go one up. I said the couldn't because there would be no way we could tell if that was the winning run or not since we hadn't batted in the last inning. The didn't hit one but I still wanted an official ruling. The league director is on our team so I asked him. He said the home team becomes the visiting team on the flip flop and as the visiting team could go one up. I also asked the umpire and he said he had run into the same question at another league in a different park and they said the same, the home team becomes the visiting team. I'm ok with that, as long as everyone knows the rule. It just didn't make much sense. Has anyone else run into this in their league? |
| May 25, 2016 B.J. 1105 posts | Bruce... I don't see flip flop being an issue it's the same rule...if you allow 1 up... then the visitors can hit one HR which also allows the home team to hit 1 to tie them....I also agree that the home team should not be allowed to go 1 up in the final inning |
| May 25, 2016 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | A 1 and 1 count will speed up your league play without having to worry about the confusing flip flop. |
| May 25, 2016 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | We already have the 1-1 count. I have proposed we do away with 4 hrs and 1 up, make it unlimited hrs. That should end each at bat pretty fast. |
| May 26, 2016 stick8 1991 posts | I'm not certain playing 3-2 speeds the game up because IMO most players don't wait until they have a full count to swing. What can speed the game up a little is whats called the hurry up rule. Between innings the pitcher takes one warm up pitch and there is no "coming down". Right back to the pitcher and batter up. |
| May 26, 2016 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | I seem to remember a few years ago someone clocked several games, 1-1 and 0-0. The results were that the 1-1 count only saved a couple of minutes a game. What I see are batters not ready to get into the box, leadoff hitter in the first inning or others later and batters that step out after every pitch and adjust their batting gloves (much like ML baseball. |
| May 26, 2016 DoubleL10 Men's 70 907 posts | Bruce, Seriously...in slow pitch guys step out and adjust their gloves after every pitch? Is Mike (the human rain delay) Hargrove now playing Senior softball?? |
| May 26, 2016 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | You got it LL! To make things worse, he is a teammate on our 50 team. After the game I asked if he was trying to run the clock down and he said he has a ritual that he goes through after each pitch. He then said that he didn't step out of the box. I laughed and said oh yes you do. |
| May 28, 2016 BruceAZ Men's 70 155 posts | Bruce, in our league play we play 2 innings in the field at a time and then bat 2 innings until the open. That does speed up the game. |
| May 28, 2016 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | That might be an option. I'll mention it to our board. |
| May 28, 2016 DCPete 409 posts | Be careful what you wish for; if you flip-flop in the 7th then start the 2nd game as the home team, you'll end up playing 4 innings in a row in the field. |
| May 28, 2016 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | We also play double innings in the field and it is neither tiring nor confusing and it does speed up play. Pitcher usually takes a couple of more warmups because he sat for two innings, but we have done it this way for 15 years. As DCPete notes, a flip-flop in the first game could keep you in the field for four innings, but if you are winning by that much, it is usually not very taxing to field against a team that can't catch up in three straight innings at bat. |
