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Discussion: Are time-outs allowed after umpire calls "Batter up"?

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July 25, 2016
Turbobob
Men's 65
71 posts
Are time-outs allowed after umpire calls "Batter up"?
I'm in a 65 plus league and want to know if, after the home umpire calls "batter up", can the offensive team call a time-out for non-injury related reasons in order to avoid the penalty?

Here is the SSUSA rule:
7.3 • BATTING POSITION
B. The batter must take his position within ten seconds after being directed by the umpire. EFFECT: The umpire will call a strike. No pitch has to be thrown and the ball is dead.

Is there a "no time-outs are allowed between the time the umpire calls batter up, and the time when the batter is in the batter's box" rule, or is this implied? How is this handled (tournament and non-tournament games)when using SSUSA rules?
July 25, 2016
titanhd
Men's 60
638 posts
Not the anwser to your question but, players can only request or ask for a time out. Only the umpire is allowed to "call" timeout.
July 25, 2016
B.J.
1105 posts
i'll assume you mean during an inning change...the umpire will allow for the time for both teams to change....if for some reason he thinks the defense is stalling he will either stop the timer (if on is being used) and and also give a verbal warning...if he then thinks the offense is stalling he will call for a batter and then wait a few seconds and if no batter is in the box he will call a strike and continue until either the batter is out or he decides to bat...again once in a while there is a reason for a momentary delay...but not every inning
July 25, 2016
Turbobob
Men's 65
71 posts
B.J. I'm not in a tournament game, so there is no timer. I understand allowing a little extra leeway for inning changes, but the situation of not having the next batter being "on-deck" happens quite often during any phase of the game.
The offense likes to call "time-out" to get this situation resolved, but causes delays.
That is why I want to know if the umpire can deny granting a time out once he sees no batter on-deck, then calls "batter up", then deny any requests for a time out until after the batter is in the batter's box.

We plan on making a Local Rule to specifically address this situation, and I wanted to know how it is handled in non-tournament games where there is no timer to stop the clock.

My thought is, after calling "batter up", no time outs are allowed to be granted by the umpire until after the batter is in the batter's box. And if this action does not happen within 30 seconds from the "batter up" request, the batter is automatically out.

Does something like this happen in tournament games? Or is this more of an umpiring question?
July 26, 2016
B.J.
1105 posts
Turbobob...we have one of the largest senior leagues in the country in The Villages, Florida and this has never really been an issue...umpires need to be trained to keep the games moving...since this is league ball you can make any local rules that you want....if you feel it's necessary... then make a rule that the offense must have a batter ready and a player on deck at all times...along with the rule you must come up with a penalty if a team doesn't comply..that's your call....good luck
July 28, 2016
stick8
1991 posts
Unless otherwise specified by a given association there is no rule that I know of that specifically stipulates an umpire cannot give time out to a batter while the pitcher is in his/her motion. It's an unwritten rule they aren't supposed to and most don't. but an umpire can call time out whenever he/she chooses to.
When I umpire I tell coaches in the pre game that batters will automatically get time out before the first pitch to get set. After that it's on them to ask for time out.
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