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| Aug. 17, 2016 JBTexas Men's 70 434 posts | Using screen for pitcher Guys, our 40 division(SASSL) has voted to start using a screen(pitcher) when we start play in our fall session in early September, does anyone have a set of rules that they are currently using in league play, so we don't have re-created a whole new set. Thanks for your input in advance.c AN |
| Aug. 17, 2016 B.J. 1105 posts | I wrote this rule for our senior league...the screen became very popular before this rule was put in place, because pitchers would try to use it as an extra defender...now in our top 2 divisions about 40 teams...I haven't seen it used in over a year...I hope this helps PITCHING SCREEN RULE. A. The screen will directly face home plate within one to three feet in front of the pitching rubber, if a pitcher chooses to use the full depth of the ten foot pitchers box then the screen must be positioned in the one to three foot limits of where he/she chooses to pitch. B. The screen may be positioned anywhere from the outer left side of the pitching rubber for a right handed pitcher to the outer right side of the pitching rubber for a left handed pitcher. C. The screen must be placed to the left of a right-handed pitcher, and to the right of a left-handed pitcher to maximize the pitcher’s safety. D. Any batted ball striking any portion of the screen as observed by the umpire will be declared a dead ball foul unless it is the third strike, in which case it is a dead ball re-pitch. All thrown balls are in play. E. Any pitch delivered with the screen not in a legal position will be declared “no pitch.” If a pitcher refuses to place the screen in the correct position, the umpire will notify the player’s manager and remove the pitcher from the pitching position. F. If a pitcher chooses to use a screen then they “MUST” step behind the screen after every pitch, failure to do so will be called a ball (umpire judgment). A pitcher is ineligible to field any hard driven ball that is hit up the middle. (umpire judgment) Penalty for doing so will be a dead ball single for the batter and all runners will advance one base if forced to do so. Pitcher will be allowed to field a slow rolling grounder with no penalty.(umpire judgment) G. Once the screen is in position it becomes part of the field and may not be tipped over or thrown aside to accommodate a throw from the outfield. |
| Aug. 17, 2016 coop3636 514 posts | Before some other rules. Make sure your pitchers know that using the screen will lessen your skill when you play tournament ball. You get in a bad habit of moving to the left to get behind the screen.. FYI Other rules we use * If it hits the screen on the 3rd strike it is an out (This keeps players from just hitting the middle until they get a hit) *If thrown making a play to home and hits the screen, if player is past the commitment line, he scores, if he hasn't gotten to the line yet, he goes back to 3rd *It is mandatory in our league * Pitchers can field the ball on the side of the screen ( I don't because I'm worries about it hitting the side and then hitting me) Just my 2 cents worth. Brett |
| Aug. 17, 2016 Dbax Men's 65 2100 posts | 40's using a screen??? |
| Aug. 17, 2016 rlspls1974 Men's 65 119 posts | A. At the beginning of each half inning or when a pitching change is made during any half inning, the pitcher will position the screen no more than four feet in front of the pitching rubber (measured to the end of screen legs), with its closer side no more than two feet left or right of the middle of the rubber. The pitcher will deliver all pitches to the side of the screen, not over the top. B. The league strongly encourages the pitchers in all divisions to move entirely behind the screen upon release of each pitch and before the ball reaches home plate. C. The pitcher may make a defensive play on any batted ball. D. A batted ball that hits the screen will be declared "No pitch, dead ball", with no penalty on the batter. E. A thrown ball that hits the screen will be a live ball, play on. A thrown ball that becomes lodged in the netting of the screen will be declared a dead ball, with runners returning to the last base touched. |
| Aug. 17, 2016 Downs 60 posts | JH Texas. If you'll send me your mailing, or home address, I'll forward you a copy of our Puget Sound Senior Softball rules that have been in effect for a number of years but modified when felt necessary. By request, a number of leagues have received this set of rules. Our 30 team league begins at 55 and has a number of 80's so it is also considered a safety issue. The use of a PSS (Pitcher's Safety Screen) is "OPTIONAL" but clearly specifies the placement, game use, and off-field storage. The rule is reviewed annually, and subject to change based on the majority vote of the league. My email address is: downsjba@msn.com Let me know if you wish me to mail you a copy. |
| Aug. 17, 2016 JBTexas Men's 70 434 posts | Downs, e-mail on the way, thanks |
| Aug. 17, 2016 DieselDan Men's 75 600 posts | Our St. G senior leagues use the portable style screens that teams travel with. One league calls a strike if hit. If you have two non hit screen strikes you're allowed one more screen hit. Another league calls it a dead ball. The pitcher didn't get hit and they don't penalize the batter. Screens are placed about 10-12' in front of pitcher. One league allows batter to request pitcher to move up to 6' to either side of the rubber if the sun is an issue. When requested, the screen moves in front of pitcher. Pitchers can still play defense. Thrown balls during a play that hit the screen are live. Balls for the game are kept in the screen base. |
| Aug. 18, 2016 NYGNYY 215 posts | Anytime we can protect a player I am all for it. I am not an expert but do the 40's use senior bats? If they do....doesn't it make sense to start there and set some standards on the equipment used by these players, including the balls? |
| Aug. 18, 2016 B.J. 1105 posts | Downs I sent you an e mail ...I'd like a copy also...just to compare with what we use Thx |
| Aug. 18, 2016 JBTexas Men's 70 434 posts | NYGNYY,Our 40 division uses senior bats but our over 40 co-ed doesn't. Our guys have voted any ball(batted) hitting the screen is a out no matter the count. |
| Aug. 18, 2016 neck10 714 posts | we put our screen in front of the pitcher ,the pitcher must throw over the screen.It is real easy to do ,the screen is 5 to 10 foot in front of pitching rubber. You never have to worry about a flat pitch , because pitcher is throwing over a 6'4" screen. |
| Aug. 18, 2016 curveball Men's 65 705 posts | neck, that's the perfect position for the screen. Solves a lot of problems, doesn't have to be moved for left/right handed pitchers. NO illegal flat pitch. IT'S ILLEGAL IN THE LVSSA (Las Vegas) TUES/THURS LEAGUE!!!!!! League has you pitch from outside the screen on the bare hand side with the screen to the glove side of the rubber facing home approx. 3' in front of the rubber. Not allowed to be behind screen and pitch over, nor can you pitch from the glove side of the screen either. |
| Aug. 18, 2016 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | Our 50 and over league has mandated a screen for 17 years since a near-fatal hit on a pitcher. Our rules are very similar to those of rispis1974's league. We also like to have the screen as much as 4 feet in front to avoid having a pitcher trip over the legs when going behind the screen. We don't have a rule about a thrown ball lodging in the screen since it has not happened in the more than 2000 games since the mandatory screen. There is some sentiment for a batted ball striking the screen being called a dead ball strike, but it is currently a dead ball no pitch. We have lived successfully with these rules for years. I agree with coop3636 that frequent use of the screen (as in my case) does degrade fielding ability because of the reflex step to the screen side in a tournament without screens. But my prediction of a couple of years ago is that the screen will become normal for tournaments in a few years because of the continued use of the hot bats. |
| Aug. 18, 2016 UMBACH 68 posts | THE screens are used everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Aug. 18, 2016 J R 251 posts | JB in Houston we use the rule the inside leg of the screen must be touching or be inside the 24 pitching rubber..Should the batted ball Hit the screen,simply a dead ball.No strike or ball.Just do it over again. |
| Aug. 18, 2016 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | Our screen rules are similar to JR's, inside leg must be touching and inside the rubber. A batted ball hitting the screen is treated as a foul ball. In our three or four years of using the screen a thrown ball has never hit the screen. |
| Aug. 19, 2016 J R 251 posts | I agree t should be foul ball and an out on third strike.I just cannot get it passed. |
| Aug. 19, 2016 B.J. 1105 posts | the problem we found with a batted ball hitting the screen on a 3rd strike out was that once a pitcher got 2 strikes on a batter they purposely were pitching short and outside to try to induce a hit up the middle for an easy out...so we changed it to a dead ball re-pitch |
| Aug. 19, 2016 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | bj why......its slowpitch....batters in your league can't hit to right field.....what would happen if there was no screen...a bunch of back to the pitcher outs......i guess.... |
